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[00:36:41] <cmorley> mozmck: Gscreen needs rapid override added - it wasn't available at the time I built it.
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[01:33:42] <mozmck> cmorley: I'm working on adding that.
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[01:34:58] <mozmck> I took the gaxis.glade file and am moving things around and I think it will make a good base for my screen.
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[03:21:28] <pcw-laptop> latest preemt-rt on laptop:
[03:21:30] <pcw-laptop> http://ibin.co/1uWVS6xV3Nif
[03:21:31] <pcw-laptop> Not bad, though I notice you cannot switch to battery power without terrible latency
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[04:38:45] <cmorley> mozmck: That's great - sometime when I get back to it I would generalize a bunch of the routines in gscreen or move them out to the handler files.. maybe after your work we can look at filling out the docs to help others with customizations.
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[04:41:18] <cmorley> to add rapid override properly - one needs to add code to emc_interface.py - I'm sure you will see this when you get there.
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[11:48:25] <skunkworks> pcw_home, your .config worked. The latency is a lot better. very usable. just running the latecy-test with both threads I was getting 48us in servo thread. With just the servo thread I am getting <20k so far.
[11:49:02] <skunkworks> the only issue is the onboard wireless probably needs some help. (it wasn't seen but saw a bunch of references to firmware not found when building the kernel)
[11:50:05] <skunkworks> (but is working with a usb wireless dongle right nw.
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[11:57:59] <skunkworks> zlog,
[11:58:00] <zlog> skunkworks: Log stored at http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/2015-03-12.html
[12:04:02] <skunkworks> !later tjtr33 Let me know when you are on...
[12:04:02] <the_wench> will tell tjtr33 when he/she joins next
[12:30:09] <skunkworks> meant that on the other channel
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[13:01:57] <pcw_home> skunkworks: the wireless issue may be something that needs to be set to allow proprietary blobs to be included
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[13:43:08] <seb_kuzminsky> morning
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[13:51:54] <pcw_home> morning
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[14:31:21] <mozmck> cmorley: I found that and looks like I have rapid override added and working now.
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[18:15:08] <skunkworks> pcw_home, http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/7i80ASUS.png
[18:20:33] <skunkworks> 2.5ghz
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[18:38:41] <PCW> Maybe similar to my Dell 6420 (2.5 GHz second gen I5)
[18:38:52] <skunkworks> this is a 3rd gen i5
[18:39:44] <PCW> I think mine is on the edge at 3 KHz (running videos etc)
[18:40:28] <PCW> but ran for about a day at 3 KHz and HD fireplace vids
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[18:44:13] <skunkworks> This is 2k - i will let it run overnight
[18:44:43] <skunkworks> if I did the math right - that is about 100us read.
[18:45:34] <skunkworks> as with most - it gets more spikey moving the mouse.
[18:46:05] <PCW> Yeah
[18:48:14] <PCW> better stepgen tuning is possible:
[18:48:16] <PCW> http://ibin.co/1ub32KEWlfro
[18:52:28] <PCW> the ~2 uInch jitter at 40 IPS (2400 IPM) represents about 50 ns of sampling jitter
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[18:55:03] <PCW> (thats one of those $39 HP DC7800s)
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[19:26:42] <skunkworks> unreal
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[19:45:36] <cradek> skunkworks: have you tried feature/state-tags-2.7-signed ?
[19:46:52] <cradek> I think the tagging is *great* but I'm nervous about the restore part
[19:47:36] <skunkworks> I don't know what that means...
[19:48:36] <cradek> you know how when running gcode the state display shows the readahead state, not the currently running state? rob made it display the running state
[19:48:58] <skunkworks> oh
[19:49:00] <cradek> AXIS hides this stuff when not in mdi, because historically it was not very useful
[19:49:36] <cradek> I guess "active gcodes" is what we call it
[19:49:46] <cradek> so that's part 1, and it's wonderful
[19:49:52] <skunkworks> ok - the memory is coming back.. He talked about showing current and next line.. in pathpilot or something like that
[19:50:04] <cradek> no this is about active gcodes
[19:50:13] <cradek> I don't know what the line stuff was
[19:50:32] <skunkworks> ah.
[19:50:49] <cradek> part 2 is when you abort it tries to restore the state of the interpreter to what it was back when the (then-running) code was executing
[19:51:17] <cradek> it does this by taking the old "active gcodes" and executing them (approximately) and that makes me nervous
[19:51:34] <cradek> guess I need to play with it
[19:51:41] <skunkworks> No I have not played with it.. :)
[19:51:49] <cradek> I am sure we want part 1
[19:52:32] <cradek> I need a couple weeks off work to work on linuxcnc :-/
[19:52:35] <cradek> that would be awesome
[19:52:57] <skunkworks> I thought you had problems using up your vacation.. :)
[19:54:33] <cradek> but if I took two weeks off and stayed home I'd be building something instead of working on linuxcnc
[19:54:40] <skunkworks> heh
[19:56:56] <cradek> MacGyver disassembles a sink and uses his belt to link the sink drain to a nearby electric outlet. The water flows through the electrical system of the building and shorts out the electric box.
[19:57:50] <cradek> MacGyver uses a TV tube, a battery, and jumper cables to overload the TV tube causing an explosion when it is triggered by opening the door
[19:57:57] <cradek> my this show must've been bad
[19:58:59] <andypugh> cradek: The first one is just about almost plausible if the building is wired with steel conduit.
[20:00:14] <andypugh> It feels like it should be possible to put the glade for an interface _and_ the svg that defines the widget icons in the same XML file.
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[20:00:53] <andypugh> If you make such an XML file then Glade opens it OK, but removes the SVG content on save.
[20:01:27] <cradek> yuck
[20:02:56] <cradek> haha: [lots of reasons why it couldn't work] This makes MacGyver's feat all the more impressive.
[20:03:41] <cradek> andypugh: in touchy I used some icons from the system theme, but even that doesn't seem to work reliably. in some situations (?) it just shows the text.
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[20:05:38] <andypugh> “Features” has a single SVG with all the icons in it, and pulls them out with a “makeicons” routine.
[20:06:06] <andypugh> It is actually possible to make rsvg render a single “id” from an SVG file, and that seems like a slightly neater way.
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[20:06:45] <andypugh> But you stil need an SVG, a Glade file and a Python file for the handler. Which seems inelegant for a “plug-in” tab
[20:09:43] <andypugh> There is some nice GUI work here: http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/40-subroutines-and-ngcgui/26578-linuxcnc-features-a-kind-of-ngcgui?start=170#56725
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[20:17:24] <cradek> wow, so they are resizeable too
[20:17:36] <cradek> that looks really nice
[20:23:28] <andypugh> I am not sure I am interested enough in learning Inkscape to bother :-)
[20:25:26] <kwallace1> I like Inkscape and use it often.
[20:28:05] <andypugh> I use it a bit, and it’s great, but there is quite a learning-curve to make icons like those.
[20:32:41] <kwallace1> Yeah, I don't use masks and other features much and I need to look it up each time I need to use one, but it can do just about anything, and is easy to use for basic stuff.
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[21:55:09] <seb_kuzminsky> awesome, Shivam, the GSoC student working on kernel packaging, just sent me his first bug report
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[22:23:13] <mozmck> seb_kuzminsky: what are y'all doing on the kernel packaging?
[22:27:03] <PCW> argggh hm2_eth bug #@&
[22:29:07] <seb_kuzminsky> mozmck: taking the build system i made to build our wheezy/precise rtai kernel debs and updating it for newer versions, and maybe (extra credit!) newer versions of preempt-rt
[22:29:50] <mozmck> I see. I haven't had time to look at that yet, but I need to.
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[22:42:09] <skunkworks> PCW, what?
[22:44:26] <PCW> looks a conditional read (reading the index enable state) got left out of the enqueuing logic
[22:45:37] <PCW> so if you set index enable true you get an extra read operation (so 5 packets instead of 3)
[22:46:29] <PCW> There was a similar bug with the watchdog early on
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[22:52:06] <seb_kuzminsky> that's just during homing and threading/tapping, right?
[22:52:15] <PCW> yes
[22:53:40] <PCW> It probably works but ~doubling the transfer time is not good
[22:56:40] <PCW> I would not have noticed but was looking at the readtimes on halscope and noticed they were higher than expected
[22:56:42] <PCW> and then figured out that it was index enable being set that did it ( tcpdump shows the extra read request/read data )
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