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[00:12:33] <skunkandroid> cradek: like riding a bike?
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[00:15:40] <Tom_itx> could someone please post the git addy for the mesaflash utility?
[00:16:44] <atom1> ahh nm... i found it
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[00:29:52] <cradek> ohhh my
[00:30:07] <cradek> skunkandroid: you always find something the last place you look
[00:30:48] <skunkandroid> That sounds promising
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[00:32:03] <cradek> zoom in and look at the paths
[00:32:36] <atom1> yay! asrock alive!
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[00:38:56] <skunkworks> cradek: because the arcs are the wrong way?
[00:39:52] <skunkworks> oops.. sorry..
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[00:42:04] <skunkworks> was your fix good then?
[00:42:15] <cradek> nope it was still wrong
[00:43:00] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 052.7 bc9d94c 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/task/emccanon.cc Fix my previous fix for arc axis constraints * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc9d94c
[00:43:58] <cradek> if I change it to g18 g3 and change nothing else, it runs at full speed because then they're tangent
[00:44:12] <cradek> r format can sure hide problems, can't it
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[00:59:56] <skunkworks> ugh. stupid mistake..
[01:00:17] <skunkworks> so - your fix does fix the lathe issue though -right?
[01:00:27] <cradek> yes it better
[01:01:42] <cradek> without breaking all the other planes, even
[01:06:07] <memfrob> Looks like the new RTAI 4.1 release further fixes the isolcpus bug, I'm going to be doing massive clean-up on the 4.1 release and ensure compatibility with LinuxCNC as 4.1 will not work as-is
[01:07:44] <memfrob> I am going to continue to bump all related changes to the core of RTAI, hal, scheduler, kernel, etc upon new RTAI releases so in case LinuxCNC developers want to ship a new CD or new .debs that can without having to use obsolete RTAI trees
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[03:02:14] <seb_kuzminsky> memfrob: cool, i hope to look at the new rtai (& rt-preempt) patches along with the GSoC student that expressed interest
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[03:25:51] <memfrob> im almost done cleaning up the 4.1 release
[03:32:01] <memfrob> down to the last 10K lines of code, only about a couple hundred lines left I actually need to modify but I have scripts that do most of the work for me
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[04:50:36] <memfrob> just a matter of trimming down the git diff now, all clean-up is done. commit should be done in a few days. lots and lots of changes. i hope these fix my super bad latency spikes..
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[08:06:54] <memfrob> ah yes and i also need to test it before the push
[08:07:02] <memfrob> night all
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[09:09:43] <skunkworks> cradek: question - why did that not show up in the inch config?
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[12:38:15] <cradek> skunkworks: you got the defaults of vel 1 unit/sec and acc 1 unit/sec2 for the missing axis
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[12:38:31] <skunkworks> ah - ok
[12:38:56] <cradek> yeah and 1 inch is big enough that you didn't notice it
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[12:40:01] <skunkworks> yes the testing was less than 60in/min.
[12:41:28] <skunkworks> morning!
[12:42:05] <cradek> it's sooo early
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[13:20:06] <skunkworks> cradek, changed g2 to g3 and the program ran at expected speeds.. ;)
[13:20:50] <skunkworks> It is funny - i was thinking to myself when i did the mass change of y to z that I thought with i and k notation I had to change a sign...
[13:21:05] <skunkworks> or something..
[13:21:19] <skunkworks> but it was the G command I changed
[13:21:47] <skunkworks> heh
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mach1mach2cnc/conversations/messages/146948
[13:24:35] <cradek> did mach not already have probing?
[13:25:09] <skunkworks> yes but it sounds like it wasn't that flexable
[13:25:14] * skunkworks hugs linuxcnc
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[13:26:48] <cradek> skunkworks: it's what it is partly because of you; thanks for all your work
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[13:38:41] <skunkworks> Thanks
[13:46:23] <mozmck> c_morley: If I set the theme in .gscreen_preferences, after running gscreen it sets itself back to "Follow System Theme"
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[13:58:04] <mozmck> Hmm, I wonder if it's because I am trying to use a theme in ~/.themes instead of /usr/share/themes
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[14:02:20] <mozmck> Looks like that is it.
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[14:12:56] <cpresser> hi. i was wondering if it is possible to initialize "motion.analog-out-NN" pins with values other than 0
[14:13:13] <cpresser> looking at lines 575ff
http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=blob;f=src/emc/motion/motion.c;h=d403afa62881ac8117bcaa09d5dce058da5c4d58;hb=HEAD this doesnt seem to be possible
[14:13:55] <cpresser> for me, that would be a usefull feature. so I am considering writing a patch
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[14:14:07] <skunkworks> what are you trying to do? Could it be done in hal?
[14:14:30] <cpresser> skunkworks: yes, could be done in hal. with a mux
[14:15:16] <seb_kuzminsky> cpresser: M68 in the startup gcodes?
[14:15:41] <cpresser> seb_kuzminsky: can i have more than on M68 in the startup-code?
[14:16:42] <cpresser> i want to set 4 outputs during startup
[14:16:59] <cpresser> so i was thinking of adding more parameters to motion
[14:17:20] <seb_kuzminsky> you can only have one, good point
[14:17:52] <seb_kuzminsky> can you call an o-word sub in the startup gcodes? that'd let you have as many M68 calls as you want
[14:18:22] <cpresser> i am not sure if o-words work in startup-code. afaik only modal codes work. but ill try
[14:18:52] <cpresser> that would be a way easier solution than patching motion. besides, i might be the only person on earth which wants that feature
[14:21:54] <seb_kuzminsky> your hardware has to be robust against unexpected aout voltages before linuxcnc starts up, so it seems strange to be in a rush to set them once linuxcnc starts
[14:23:13] <cradek> yeah this feels like you're not taking the right approach, but I don't know what the big picture is, so it's hard to guess what to suggest
[14:23:43] <cpresser> true for real analog-out. but i use those values only inside HAL as parameters for some components.
[14:26:36] <seb_kuzminsky> you have some hal components with pins that get netted to motion.analog-out-*?
[14:27:36] <cradek> what are you doing? (not how are you doing it)
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[14:29:55] <cpresser> cradek: its complicated.. its a tensile-strenght-testing machine. with optical tracking (i did that in opencv). everything is wired together in HAL. I am using the analog-out pins, so the user can enter parameters as gcode. but it would be good to have them already set at startup
[14:31:13] <cradek> woo that is complicated
[14:31:16] <cpresser> i could use a mux which switched between a default-vaule und motion.analog-out-NN; and switch this mux as soon as 'sane' value apper on the input
[14:31:33] <cradek> yeah I was thinking about that too
[14:31:50] <cpresser> but the HAL files already look really complicated; thats why i am searching for other solutions
[14:32:00] <cradek> could something the user does trigger that mux? should it trigger at start of program run or something?
[14:32:37] <cpresser> yes, i could trigger it with halui.programm-is-running (or similar pins)
[14:33:00] <cradek> that sounds like a useful approach
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[14:37:47] <skunkworks> I hope rob's head hasn't exploded.. I sent him a dozen emails yestarday and in the end it was - chris fixed the lathe issue and the arc-spiral issue was my mistake..
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[14:42:52] <cradek> poor rob :-)
[14:44:35] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Robert W. Ellenberg 052.7 b39bdb3 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/tp/tp.c tp: possible fix for non-zero current velocity when stopped * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b39bdb3
[14:44:35] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Robert W. Ellenberg 052.7 ff5b780 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/tp/blendmath.c 10src/emc/tp/tc.c 10src/emc/tp/tc.h tp: refactor blending segment consumption check to ensure that syncedIO is not disrupted * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff5b780
[14:47:53] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: can you elaborate on 8dca131ab "Fix blending regression"? what was teh regression?
[14:49:50] <cradek> instead of working, blending didn't work
[14:49:55] <cradek> at all
[14:50:07] <cradek> not even a little bit
[14:51:02] <skunkworks> I swear he is like peter and watches this list...
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[14:52:51] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks: those commits were a pull request from github that i just merged
[14:53:01] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: ouch
[14:53:01] <skunkworks> ah - ok
[14:53:17] <seb_kuzminsky> hm, was that a regression that was introduced since 2.7.0~pre4?
[14:53:44] <skunkworks> zlog,
[14:53:44] <zlog> skunkworks: Log stored at
http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/2015-03-10.html
[14:54:44] <skunkworks> [17:16:24] <skunkworks> 14e9153c7d0c6d1086c9582a1ab97287401bebf7 is the first bad commit
[14:54:44] <skunkworks> [17:16:25] <skunkworks> commit 14e9153c7d0c6d1086c9582a1ab97287401bebf7
[14:54:44] <skunkworks> [17:16:27] <skunkworks> Author: Robert W. Ellenberg <rwe24g@gmail.com>
[14:54:44] <skunkworks> [17:16:28] <skunkworks> Date: Mon Mar 2 22:17:50 2015 -0500
[14:55:04] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: yes, "tp: polish and tweaks for low queue fix"
[14:56:06] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: thanks, then i wont bother mentioning it in the changelog
[14:57:06] <cradek> I think it was a "polish" that broke it. he rewrote some conditionals to use variable names (to be clearer) but made a mistake.
[14:57:56] <cradek> yeah I'd not mention it, since it was broken then fixed since the last one
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[15:03:44] <seb_kuzminsky> oh yeah, the stepconf doublestep fix
[15:04:04] <seb_kuzminsky> there's been a lot of improvements in the 3 weeks since 2.7.0~pre4
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[15:07:18] <cradek> awesome
[15:15:18] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 052.7 9288501 06linuxcnc 10docs/man/man1/xhc-hb04.1 xhc-hb04 manpage: fix missing output pin .sleeping * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=9288501
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[15:19:26] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05signed tags 2b215a4 06linuxcnc 03v2.7.0-pre5 LinuxCNC v2.7.0~pre5 (tagged commit: 04ff882) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b215a4
[15:19:43] <seb_kuzminsky> err oops
[15:19:50] <seb_kuzminsky> i missed dgarr's push
[15:19:51] <seb_kuzminsky> darn
[15:20:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 05tags 2b215a4 06linuxcnc 04v2.7.0-pre5 tag deleted * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b215a4
[15:21:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 536fb69 06linuxcnc 10VERSION 10debian/changelog LinuxCNC 2.7.0~pre5 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=536fb69
[15:21:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05signed tags c709566 06linuxcnc 03v2.7.0-pre5 LinuxCNC v2.7.0~pre5 (tagged commit: 536fb69) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c709566
[15:21:55] <seb_kuzminsky> that's better
[15:22:23] <seb_kuzminsky> good thing the buildbot was busy building dgarr's manpage fix and didn't get to build an incorrect 2.7.0~pre5 tag
[15:22:59] <seb_kuzminsky> assuming this goes smoothly i'll upload the debs & send out an announcement tonight
[15:34:32] <cradek> yay!
[15:38:33] <skunkworks> Awesome!
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[16:26:37] <skunkworks> wow - cool
https://picasaweb.google.com/108164504656404380542/CNCUnsorted?noredirect=1#6076505779370891058
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[16:52:54] <cradek> slick
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[18:19:22] <pcw_home> Quite a few bugs fixed for 2.7-pre5
[18:20:18] <pcw_home> The bogus velocity bug is still there but less apparent
[18:21:07] <seb_kuzminsky> even after b39bdb34? (ie, even in 2.7.0~pre5?)
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[18:23:29] <pcw_home> yes, but only
[18:23:31] <pcw_home> 1. when first starting linuxcnc
[18:23:32] <pcw_home> 2. for about 1/4 second when starting a job
[18:23:47] <seb_kuzminsky> huh, ok
[18:23:55] <seb_kuzminsky> rob thought he might have fixed it
[18:24:16] <pcw_home> its changed and less apparent
[18:24:56] <pcw_home> oops is still there every time you start a job (but dont blink)
[18:26:01] <pcw_home> I think I'm wrong, its OK
[18:26:39] <seb_kuzminsky> oh! that's a good kind of wrong to be :-)
[18:27:01] <pcw_home> theres a short move right when you start then a long pause
[18:27:15] <pcw_home> the velocity blink is that short move
[18:29:12] <pcw_home> its the z retract
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[20:40:51] <skunkworks> well this decides it.. linuxcnc is the best..
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mach1mach2cnc/conversations/messages/146963
[20:45:20] <cradek> have we ever recorded ours with all four parts playing? it's much better than 3.
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[20:45:47] <skunkworks> I don't think I have run across it.. lots of 2 part...
[20:45:51] <skunkworks> *3 part
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[20:48:52] <cradek> it was written during one of the eras where max had 4 trivkins axes
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[21:15:40] <mozmck> c_morley: I modified gscreen to look for themes in the ~/.themes directory as well as /usr/share/themes, and it also filters out directories without a gtk-2.0 theme
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[21:23:26] <mozmck> patch here:
http://pastebin.com/DjWyT6zP
[21:25:30] <mozmck> I'm not a python expert (yet :) ) - there may be some better way to do this.
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[22:52:35] <andypugh> I am trying to draw a polygon in a gtk drawable. But it keeps saying “sequence members must be 2-tuples”. However if I print my point sequence it looks like ((10,20), (30,40), (10, 50)) which I think is a 2-tuple? I wish I understood Python.
[22:55:14] <seb_kuzminsky> i think those are lists, not tuples
[22:55:30] <andypugh> What would a tuple look like?
[22:55:32] <seb_kuzminsky> lists are immutable and displayed with ( ), tuples are mutable and displayed with [ ]
[22:55:47] * seb_kuzminsky also does not know python
[22:56:22] <andypugh> http://www.tutorialspoint.com/python/python_tuples.htm
[22:56:28] <andypugh> Suggests the reverse....
[22:56:55] <seb_kuzminsky> >>> type((1, 2))
[22:56:55] <seb_kuzminsky> <type 'tuple'>
[22:56:55] <seb_kuzminsky> >>> type([1, 2])
[22:56:55] <seb_kuzminsky> <type 'list'>
[22:57:02] <seb_kuzminsky> yep, ignore me, heh
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[23:27:29] <andypugh> It seems that the problem is not that my tuples are not tuples, but that they are not _integer_ tuples. I tried some sample code, changes a number to non-int and then got the same (confusing) error message
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