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[00:18:34] <alex_joni> ha
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[00:19:06] <alex_joni> hopefully our depends-on graph is smaller ;)
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[01:36:25] <pcw_home> Hmm what I thought was a hm2_eth bug is in fact another sserial bug
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[01:52:38] <pcw_home> well not sure if pathologically slow code is defined as a bug or not
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[10:14:53] <alex_joni> pcw_home: if it's documented it's a feature
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[14:16:42] <skunkworks> Good morning!
[14:19:47] <micges-dev> ahoy
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[14:27:30] <skunkworks> micges-dev, how goes it?
[14:28:10] <micges-dev> good thanks
[14:28:33] <micges-dev> real life dragged me in ;)
[14:28:46] <skunkworks> heh
[14:29:09] <micges-dev> and you?
[14:31:28] <skunkworks> Good - busy
[14:31:28] <seb_kuzminsky> morning fellas
[14:31:35] <skunkworks> Hi seb!
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[14:48:56] <JT-Shop> hola Seb
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[15:23:09] <pcw_home> micges-dev: problem with 7I83 is not extra packet but something that takes ~80 usec more in the recv section
[15:23:11] <pcw_home> it may be just a sserial bug (maybe there's a bug with no returned data)
[15:24:19] <pcw_home> thats about 240,000 instructions, a long time for the CPU to be twiddling its thumbs...
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[15:38:46] <pcw_home> ( dual core 3.16 GHz CPU )
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[15:53:29] <skunkworks> what would be different?
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[16:16:02] <pcw_home> not sure maybe the sserial.c recv part has an issue when theres no recv data? I'll have to poke at this some more
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[16:16:55] <pcw_home> (7I83 is a output only device though I guess it can read field voltage)
[16:19:41] <micges-dev> pcw_home: hmm, weird
[16:20:46] <micges-dev> pcw_home: you have 2+1 packets in master and 2.7?
[16:21:50] <pcw_home> well 2+1 in 2.7 at work and home
[16:22:49] <pcw_home> I thought it was 4 packets but i think its was just the power of suggestion when the read time went from 80 usec to 160 usec when I added the 7I83
[16:25:34] <pcw_home> I check at work with 2.7pre2 and its just 3 packets but something is making the read part slow
[16:25:36] <pcw_home> (packet sizes are mostly unchanged its like theres a bug in the read part of the code thats wasting a relativelyl huge amount of time)
[16:25:42] <pcw_home> I checked
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[16:27:00] <pcw_home> I will try and duplicate with PCI because it may not be hm2_eth related at all
[16:30:12] <micges-dev> could be
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[16:35:02] <pcw_home> may need some timer function calls in the code to see where its spending its time (or maybe standard profiling tools can be used since its Preemt-RT)
[16:38:20] <micges-dev> pcw_home: check if 7i84 is ok or not ok, I've got one so we can compare tests results
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[16:39:48] <micges-dev> if it's ok*
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[16:42:04] <pcw_home> OK I will in a few minutes
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[16:58:50] <skunkworks> pcw_home, could mesa ship a partial? (dad is only waiting for the panel interface)
[17:01:43] <pcw_home> sure but it may take a bit (inventory this week)
[17:04:18] <Tom_itx> is that a sserial thing just on the ethernet card?
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[17:16:10] <alex_joni> hi guys
[17:16:16] <alex_joni> HNY2015
[17:16:51] <seb_kuzminsky> hi alex_joni
[17:16:58] <alex_joni> hey seb
[17:17:04] <alex_joni> been a while :)
[17:17:53] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah man!
[17:17:55] <seb_kuzminsky> what's new?
[17:18:09] <alex_joni> hmm.. life's busy :/
[17:18:16] <alex_joni> not much time for lcnc
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[17:25:48] <skunkworks> alex_joni, is that good or bad? ;)
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[18:16:59] <PCW> OK on my test system adding _any_ second sserial device to a 7I76E more than doubles the indicated read time
[18:17:01] <PCW> from ~240000 = ~75 usec to ~540000 = ~165 usec
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[18:21:13] <micges-dev> PCW: do you have 7i76e IO powered?
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[18:39:29] <PCW> yes
[18:40:59] <PCW> Ill try adding more remotes (they really should only add a few usec each)
[18:41:43] <PCW> whats funny is this did not happen on my test machine at home so its pretty odd
[18:44:42] <PCW> test machine at home has same CPU but different MB/Ethernet MAC
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[18:46:27] <PCW> will try PCI next
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[19:32:00] <micges-dev> PCW: are you checking clean 2.7 or with my latest sserial patch?
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[19:39:11] <PCW> with patch
[19:40:25] <PCW> Its does seem related to hm2_eth
[19:41:59] <PCW> with hm2_pci adding another sserial card adds about 3 usec
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[19:45:11] <PCW> (with patch)
[19:51:38] <micges-dev> 2.7 w/o patch = read 156us, write 32us
[19:51:49] <micges-dev> 7i76e IO
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[19:56:58] <micges-dev> 2.7 w/o patch (7i76e IO + 7i73) = read 258us, write 33us
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[20:04:34] <micges-dev> PCW: I see only slightly longer packets, both cases have 2+1 all the time
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[20:05:50] <PCW> yeah unpatched 2.7 ~75 usec W/O 7i73 170 usec with
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[20:06:13] <PCW> so patch makes no difference
[20:06:58] <PCW> is it possible that this is because of the recv polling delay (what is it now?)
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[20:07:51] <micges-dev> delay is 10us after each check if data arrived
[20:08:44] <micges-dev> try with debug=1, should write waiting times
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[20:09:16] <PCW> ahh that should be helpful
[20:10:14] <PCW> I know the 7I76e is not adding any measurable delay
[20:10:58] <PCW> ( looking at TP 1 and TP2 with a scope )
[20:12:15] <PCW> I means theres not a significant difference in the read-request --> send read data times with or without the 7I73
[20:13:05] <micges-dev> ok
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[20:15:07] <micges-dev> I don't have ebough power to enable debug with 7i73
[20:16:27] <PCW> OK trys is ~5 without 7I73 and ~12 with (rxpacket size went from 80 to 96 bytes)
[20:16:27] <micges-dev> PCW: can you try it?
[20:16:56] <PCW> what the heck???
[20:17:33] <micges-dev> I've got 72 bytes
[20:17:42] <micges-dev> send me your config
[20:19:08] <micges-dev> and maybe bitfile you're using to be sure
[20:19:12] <PCW> probably because i have mode 2 selected on the 7I76
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[20:21:18] <micges-dev> ah
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[20:25:01] <PCW> OK I dont think its a hm2_eth or sserial problem
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[20:25:44] <PCW> it appears to be a strange feature of either the network stack or the driver
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[20:26:09] <PCW> sorry for the wild goose chase
[20:26:33] <PCW> the same timing shows up with ping!
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[20:27:14] <PCW> 80 bytes ~65 usec 90 bytes 160 usec!
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[20:27:29] <PCW> arghh
[20:27:35] <micges-dev> what...
[20:28:24] <micges-dev> I'm on atom d525
[20:28:42] <PCW> but same MAC Ill bet
[20:29:15] <micges-dev> what mb you have?
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[20:29:38] <PCW> This is a intel D41G (core duo e8500)
[20:29:56] <PCW> but it has a RTK mac
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[20:31:05] <micges-dev> yeah here too
[20:31:18] <micges-dev> RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[20:33:43] <PCW> yeah, wonder if there are any driver knobs to tweak
[20:34:18] <PCW> let me try an ancient 3com 100bt card...
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[20:40:32] <PCW> yep 8111 driver...
[20:41:08] <PCW> 3com card is slower but ~100 usec with no 7I73, 108 with
[20:42:16] <micges-dev> yeah, sane numbers
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[20:44:44] <PCW> weird, i wonder where the next discontinuity is...
[20:45:25] <skunkworks> pcw wheezy or ubuntu?
[20:45:36] <PCW> wheezy
[20:45:53] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Norbert Schechner 052.6 c175812 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/gmoccapy/gmoccapy.py 10src/emc/usr_intf/gmoccapy/release_notes.txt gmoccapy_1_5_1 - solved a bug in counts handling * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c175812
[20:45:53] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Norbert Schechner 052.6 aca8334 06linuxcnc Merge branch '2.6' of ssh://norbert@git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git into 2.6 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=aca8334
[20:46:02] <micges-dev> I'm on ubuntu 12.04
[20:46:32] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Norbert Schechner 052.7 f6699a3 06linuxcnc Merge branch '2.6' into 2.7 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6699a3
[20:47:14] <PCW> probably not terribly important unless you want >1KHz thread but weird
[20:47:17] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Norbert Schechner 05master ef81ece 06linuxcnc Merge branch '2.7' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef81ece
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[20:55:41] <PCW> "Your shipment [rand20 has been overnighted"
[20:55:42] <PCW> sad when spammers cant even get their scripts right
[20:58:04] <micges-dev> I don't see any options in driver besides debug=0..16
[20:59:51] <PCW> how about unbug = 1
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[21:03:30] <PCW> probably some optimization somewhere...
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