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[00:38:15] <linuxcnc-build_> build #881 of 4017.deb-wheezy-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4017.deb-wheezy-amd64/builds/881 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
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[01:04:22] <mozmck> Hi cmorley1, did you see the Hbar too?
[01:04:39] <cmorley1> Yes looks very nice
[01:04:52] <mozmck> I could make a patch. I played with the square LEDs, but didn't get anything I really liked yet.
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[01:05:32] <mozmck> square LED's are usually pretty dull in real life, but I'm sure they can be spiffed up a little
[01:06:07] <mozmck> What Kimk was talking about was a lighted button, with the light being independent of the button state.
[01:06:10] <cmorley1> yes I think consistent would be nice but maybe people don't mix shapes much..?
[01:06:26] <mozmck> I don't know.
[01:06:58] <mozmck> I was thinking I could figure out how to add a property so you could select between the "shiny" or "flat" style.
[01:07:01] <cmorley1> anyways they does add some spiff to them ... we could even make it a clickable optionm
[01:07:13] <cmorley1> option - the fancy part i mean
[01:07:21] <mozmck> heh, what I just said!
[01:07:25] <cmorley1> lol
[01:07:36] <mozmck> or "pretty" vs "ugly"
[01:08:02] <mozmck> (not really - it would just be funny to make that the options)
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[01:09:00] <cmorley1> GTK have had packages called something like that before..
[01:10:39] <cmorley1> well when you get bored of playing with them, if you send me a patch I will see about incorporating, if you like.
[01:11:50] <cmorley1> gotta go ttyl
[01:14:25] <mozmck> ok, will do
[01:15:20] <tinkerer> happy new year all!
[01:17:12] <tinkerer> seb_kuzminsky: do you have time for the tcl issues?
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[01:32:54] <seb_kuzminsky> tinkerer: hey there, happy new year
[01:33:13] <seb_kuzminsky> i dont know enough about tcl to do anything about the weird 8.6 problem :-/
[01:33:27] <seb_kuzminsky> but if you have any input i'd love to hear it
[01:33:34] <tinkerer> :)
[01:33:36] <tinkerer> ok
[01:33:56] <mozmck> I think you have to be 60+ year old to know tcl that well ;)
[01:34:47] <tinkerer> I've asked Gene.... ;)
[01:34:53] <mozmck> haha!
[01:36:12] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
[01:36:27] <mozmck> I need to learn it I guess. From what I saw looking the other day it looks like it has advantages over lua for many things.
[01:38:25] <tinkerer> try move the code:
[01:38:25] <tinkerer> state {$task_state == $STATE_ON && $taskfile != ""} \
[01:38:25] <tinkerer> .toolbar.program_step {.menu.machine "S_tep"}
[01:38:25] <tinkerer> some "state lines" up or down and then restart lcnc
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[01:42:23] <seb_kuzminsky> tinkerer: what does that do?
[01:42:39] <tinkerer> or reorder the state invocations in proc update_state
[01:43:08] <seb_kuzminsky> what does "state" do in those statments? what is going on in that code?
[01:43:23] <seb_kuzminsky> (told you i dont know what i'm doing)
[01:43:37] <tinkerer> TCL error in asynchronous code:
[01:43:38] <tinkerer> bad option "_Pause": must be activate, add, cget, clone, configure, delete, entrycget, entryconfigure, index, insert, invoke, post, postcascade, type, unpost, xposition, or yposition
[01:43:38] <tinkerer> while executing
[01:43:38] <tinkerer> ".menu.machine "_Pause""
[01:43:38] <tinkerer> invoked from within
[01:43:38] <tinkerer> "if {$::last_interp_state != $::INTERP_IDLE || $::last_task_state != $::task_state} {
[01:43:38] <tinkerer> set_mode_from_tab
[01:43:39] <tinkerer> }"
[01:43:39] <tinkerer> (procedure "update_state" line 50)
[01:43:40] <tinkerer> invoked from within
[01:43:40] <tinkerer> "update_state"
[01:43:41] <tinkerer> ("after" script)
[01:44:22] <tinkerer> for instance
[01:44:49] <tinkerer> now it's ".menu.machine "_Pause""
[01:46:59] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, i moved it down a couple of state statements, and i get the error you just pasted
[01:48:29] <seb_kuzminsky> but i dont understand the significance of it
[01:48:31] <tinkerer> yep, and when you reorder the whole code then you get another error
[01:48:35] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah
[01:48:53] <seb_kuzminsky> what is causing the error? and why does it work with tcl 8.4 and 8.5, but not 8.6?
[01:49:14] <tinkerer> maybe its a stack issue
[01:49:18] <seb_kuzminsky> "wrong number of args" makes no sense to me
[01:49:31] <seb_kuzminsky> because i dont know who's args we're talking about
[01:49:36] <seb_kuzminsky> *whose
[01:51:08] <tinkerer> don't hardening on the type of error
[01:51:33] <tinkerer> after reordering the code i got:
[01:51:33] <tinkerer> TCL error in asynchronous code:
[01:51:33] <tinkerer> can't read "task_state": no such variable
[01:51:33] <tinkerer> while executing
[01:51:33] <tinkerer> "$task_state == $STATE_ON && ($interp_state == $INTERP_READING || $interp_state == $INTERP_WAITING) "
[01:51:34] <tinkerer> invoked from within
[01:51:34] <tinkerer> "if {$::last_interp_state != $::INTERP_IDLE || $::last_task_state != $::task_state} {
[01:51:35] <tinkerer> set_mode_from_tab
[01:51:35] <tinkerer> }"
[01:51:36] <tinkerer> (procedure "update_state" line 58)
[01:51:36] <tinkerer> invoked from within
[01:51:37] <tinkerer> "update_state"
[01:51:37] <tinkerer> ("after" script)
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[01:57:51] <tinkerer> it's interesting that it's always on this point:
[01:57:52] <tinkerer> "if {$::last_interp_state != $::INTERP_IDLE || $::last_task_state != $::task_state} {
[01:57:52] <tinkerer> set_mode_from_tab
[01:57:52] <tinkerer> }"
[01:58:30] <tinkerer> *at
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[02:02:50] <seb_kuzminsky> tinkerer: so proc state takes a statement and a list of widgets to modify state on
[02:03:01] <seb_kuzminsky> if the statement is true
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[02:44:41] <tinkerer> seb_kuzminsky: to be honest I don't know how it realy works but changing the line after the last state-invocation the error has gone...
[02:44:41] <tinkerer> from
[02:44:42] <tinkerer> if { $::motion_mode == $::TRAJ_MODE_FREE && $::kinematics_type != $::KINEMATICS_IDENTITY} {
[02:44:42] <tinkerer> to
[02:44:42] <tinkerer> if { [uplevel \#0 [list expr {$::motion_mode == $::TRAJ_MODE_FREE && $::kinematics_type != $::KINEMATICS_IDENTITY}]]} {
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[02:53:24] <aspect> that change shouldn't make any difference at all
[02:53:43] <tinkerer> shouldn't ;)
[02:54:01] * aspect is from #tcl and currently checkout out linuxcnc.git to see if I can help :-)
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[02:55:21] <aspect> is itcl in use? There has been some breakage with 8.6/itcl4 releases
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[02:56:58] <cradek> aspect: nope
[02:57:09] <cradek> aspect: and thank you for looking at it
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[03:11:34] <aspect> hm. I'm not seeing anything obviously wrong on the script level, but as miguel@#tcl points out, 8.6 has some fairly big changes on the C side "that misbehave for some undocumented idioms that previously ran fine"
[03:15:24] <aspect> hopefully we can get some tools to figure out where that might be .. I see a lot of C using the Tcl API. That's less my forte, but by the time seb is back there will hopefully be some hints in #tcl
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[03:22:58] <aspect> might also be worth trying a build against 8.6.3, which fixes a few issues in .2 but of course debian hasn't quite got it packaged yet
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[03:50:38] <seb_kuzminsky> hi aspect, thanks for looking at our spaghetti
[03:54:08] <tinkerer> hmmmm, just putting the line
[03:54:08] <tinkerer> puts "whats going on....?"
[03:54:08] <tinkerer> between state lines and the if lines sweeps the error...
[03:54:08] <tinkerer> is this a timing issue?
[03:54:08] <tinkerer> ok, then good n8!
[03:55:39] <seb_kuzminsky> tinkerer: thanks for looking at it
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[06:25:26] <jac> whats the deal with all the joint_axes branches? how do they differ?
[06:35:19] <seb_kuzminsky> jac: they are successive rebases onto master
[06:36:04] <seb_kuzminsky> so higher numbers just means more recent master commits are included
[06:37:04] <jac> :seb_kuzminsky: ic, so if i wanted to play with gentrivkins for a dual drive gantry setup, would joints_axes6 be the best place to start?
[06:38:15] <seb_kuzminsky> yep
[06:39:38] <jac> cool. thanks much, thats very helpful.
[06:40:58] <jac> out of curiosity, which release is the joint_axes code being targeted for? or will it always be kept separate ?
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[06:47:36] <seb_kuzminsky> that branch has some issues, when they are fixed it can be merged into master and included in whatever release comes after that
[06:48:11] <seb_kuzminsky> as far as i know no one is working on it at the moment, so i have no idea when that will be
[06:48:43] <seb_kuzminsky> if you use that branch, your experiences would be valuable input
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[06:49:08] <jac> no worries, without taking too much of your time, would you mind elaborating on what the issues are with that branch ?
[06:51:36] <seb_kuzminsky> problems with nonconsecutive axes (xz for lathes, for example)
[06:52:04] <seb_kuzminsky> missing vel & accel limits for non-trivial kins
[06:53:20] <seb_kuzminsky> that's all i know of
[06:53:36] <jac> ic, well thanks again, ill spend some time with it and keep notes.
[06:56:03] <seb_kuzminsky> sweet
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[15:13:25] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Norbert Schechner 052.6 544240d 06linuxcnc Merge branch '2.6' of ssh://norbert@git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git into 2.6 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=544240d
[15:14:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Norbert Schechner 052.7 ab71367 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/ini/inihal.cc Merge branch '2.6' into 2.7 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab71367
[15:15:15] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Norbert Schechner 05master 473751a 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/ini/inihal.cc Merge branch '2.7' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=473751a
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[18:06:02] <Tom_itx> do the new TP variables still need to be added to the 2.7 config file or are there defaults set?
[18:14:43] <Tom_itx> nm i found it.
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[19:06:17] <linuxcnc-build_> build #2876 of 1202.rip-lucid-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1202.rip-lucid-amd64/builds/2876 blamelist: Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[19:06:17] <linuxcnc-build_> build #2886 of 0000.checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/0000.checkin/builds/2886 blamelist: Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
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