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[00:48:13] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/lib_for_halfiles be2fe9e 06linuxcnc 10(11 files in 6 dirs) linuxcnc.in: support halfiles in a system lib * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=be2fe9e
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[01:44:49] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 615bedc 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/Submakefile docs: remove an old obsolete incorrect comment * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=615bedc
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[01:48:51] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master 9a20e81 06linuxcnc Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.7' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a20e81
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[02:09:20] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/po4a f5a6013 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/config/lathe_config.txt 10docs/src/config/lathe_config_fr.txt make lathe_config{,_fr}.txt comparable * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=f5a6013
[02:09:21] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/po4a e576046 06linuxcnc 10debian/control.in build-depend on po4a, for translated docs * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e576046
[02:09:21] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/po4a 1805ff2 06linuxcnc 03docs/src/config/lathe_config.fr.po 03docs/src/config/lathe_config.se.po add lathe_config po files for french and swedish * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=1805ff2
[02:09:23] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/po4a 16db1c9 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/config/lathe_config.fr.po Clear the "fuzzy" tags in in the french .po * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=16db1c9
[02:09:27] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/po4a 645d31c 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/config/.gitignore ignore the translated docs made by po4a * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=645d31c
[02:09:31] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/po4a 0c680b1 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/config/lathe_config.se.po set author in swedish .po * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c680b1
[02:09:35] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/po4a e7eb73f 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/config/lathe_config.se.po update swedish .po * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7eb73f
[02:09:39] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/po4a 370e478 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/config/lathe_config.se.po docs: more swedish translations * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=370e478
[02:09:43] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/po4a a0c0683 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/Submakefile build translated asciidoc files from master files + po * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0c0683
[02:09:47] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/po4a 5e5dd39 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/config/lathe_config.fr.po new lathe_config.fr.po, made by po4a 0.45 (from jessie) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e5dd39
[02:09:51] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/po4a fbc7577 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/config/lathe_config.fr.po un-fuzzy lathe_config.fr.po * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=fbc7577
[02:09:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/po4a ca40078 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/Submakefile docs: supply asciidoc lang attribute from Submakefile * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca40078
[02:09:59] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/po4a b79d19c 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/config/lathe_config.txt dont override lang attribute in the master asciidoc source * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b79d19c
[02:10:17] <mozmck> hmm, why use tcl for hal scripting?
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[02:29:30] <seb_kuzminsky> mozmck: because the guy who wrote it likes tcl ;-)
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[02:30:23] <cradek> tcl is an entirely adequate scripting language
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[02:32:28] <dgarr> try again sigh
[02:32:58] <cradek> :-/
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[02:33:13] <cradek> and it's not nice that it calls you dummy each time
[02:33:49] <dgarr> mozmck: because it works, its easy, its built-in,it knows about the infile ref from 5 years ago: http://www.mail-archive.com/emc-developers%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg02513.html
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[02:36:20] <dgarr> cradek any thoughts on the concept ? http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=be2fe9e072288d9bb5ed51efda06949f76dcef2e
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[02:39:33] <mozmck> seb_kuzminsky: dgarr: that makes sense - I just wondered.
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[02:39:58] <mozmck> everything seems to be python now, and I've rarely seen tcl (except some in linuxcnc)
[02:40:11] <mozmck> guess I have another language to learn.
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[02:40:57] <mozmck> had to learn some lua for a project recently.
[02:43:30] <dgarr> mozmck: an example that replaces the usal sim hal files (its not that complicated) http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=blob_plain;f=configs/sim/axis/simtcl/twopass_demo.tcl;hb=be2fe9e072288d9bb5ed51efda06949f76dcef2e
[02:45:00] <mozmck> dgarr: thanks.
[02:47:37] * mozmck wonders how tcl compares to lua for embedding scripting in a program... both claim to be great!
[02:53:45] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/lib_for_halfiles c64644f 06linuxcnc 10(11 files in 6 dirs) linuxcnc.in: support halfiles in a system lib * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c64644f
[02:54:06] <dgarr> third time the charm (maybe)
[02:55:22] <Tom_itx> heh
[03:02:17] <skunkworks> mozmck: have you played with mach4 yet?
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[03:03:47] <dgarr> mozmck: the example i gave is a little complicated because it uses twopass, a more straightforward example that does a lot of stuff :http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=blob_plain;f=configs/sim/axis/xhc-hb04/xhc-hb04.tcl;hb=be2fe9e072288d9bb5ed51efda06949f76dcef2e
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[03:11:08] <mozmck> dgarr: thanks! those will help
[03:11:19] <mozmck> skunkworks: no I haven't, have you?
[03:11:49] <skunkworks> no - just saw you mention lua - didn't know if it was because it is used in m4
[03:12:20] <mozmck> ah! no, I wrote a plugin for sheetcam
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[03:55:39] <skunkworks> pcw_home: http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,28627.0.html
[03:57:24] <Tom_itx> huh
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[06:22:44] <memfrob> i havent worked on IPIPE in awhile, im bumping 3.14 support and adding preliminary 3.16 support to RTAI, which will then hopefully turn into 3.18 kernel support
[06:23:09] <memfrob> trying to freshen up my coding skills i havent touch C in months
[06:23:49] <memfrob> RTAI will then be ahead of xenomai and preempt-rt :D
[06:25:21] <memfrob> one of the xenomai devs (phillippe gerum, something like that) fixed the x86 assembly code problems i was running into because 3.16 changed the way entry_*.S works
[06:30:33] <memfrob> question, do those fpga mesa cards that work over ethernet like the hm2 eth driver use real-time threads or is it all standard posix?
[06:30:55] <memfrob> if its standard posix then you dont even need rtai or preempt-rt yes?
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[08:36:02] <memfrob> hmm.. latency spikes around 50K on the base thread with kernel 3.14.26 but i also have the kernel code very similar to upstream IPIPE
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[08:52:55] <memfrob> jepler i tested your pull request, works fine with latency test and sim, merged it in RTAI
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[09:07:28] <memfrob> i sent an email out to the folks at RTAI to figure out why web browers cause so much latency spikes.
[09:08:13] <memfrob> id like to solve that problem before bumping kernels because a new kernel wont do much if using the system causes unstable latency, regardless of kernel version
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[09:12:13] <memfrob> ive never seen latency this bad before. ive noticed spikes with browers before with preempt-rt as well, its really strange. anyway, im off to bed now
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[14:18:30] <jepler> memfrob: ethernet cards use "standard posix" socket APIs, but they need the realtime guarantees of preempt-rt.
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[16:14:52] <cradek> 97 (!!) of our sample configs have EDITOR=gedit, but there's no gedit in xfce by default
[16:15:18] <cradek> I could change 97 entries, or add gedit to the install image, or do a third thing that is hopefully smarter and more flexible
[16:15:28] <cradek> does anyone know what that third thing is?
[16:18:40] <cradek> sensible-editor gives me vim, and if there's not a tty it does nothing?, which is not very sensible
[16:24:56] <seb_kuzminsky> the purist in me says we should not set EDITOR in the linuxcnc ini files, and let the user choose their editor by setting EDITOR in their environment, the way it works for everything else
[16:25:34] <seb_kuzminsky> but i dread the inevitable email threads about how to do that
[16:25:35] <memfrob> You guys are going to just love this. mail.rtai.org/pipermail/rtai/2014-December/026588.html
[16:25:49] <seb_kuzminsky> morning memfrob
[16:25:57] <memfrob> morning seb_kuzminsky its been awhile!
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[17:08:56] <Tom_itx> or we could just add it in after the install like JT-Shop and I did
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[17:19:20] <jepler> I don't think there is a way to refer to "the user's preferred GUI text editor" in debian 7.
[17:20:26] <jepler> this will work anywhere but give a terminal-based editor: x-terminal-emulator -e sensible-editor
[17:20:39] <Tom_itx> i think most lcnc users are smart enough to figure out how to install an editor
[17:32:01] <pcw_home> I just learned to type mousepad
[17:39:33] <seb_kuzminsky> on wheezy, sensible-editor is a shell script that tries to run the editor named by $VISUAL, then by $EDITOR, then /usr/bin/editor, then nano-tiny, then vi
[17:40:10] <seb_kuzminsky> /usr/bin/editor is an 'alternative' which the sysadmin can make to point to any installed editor
[17:40:29] <seb_kuzminsky> "update-alternatives --list editor" shows what options are installed on a given system
[17:41:00] <seb_kuzminsky> http://pastie.org/9778437
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[17:53:04] <memfrob> eselect editor set <X> - the gentoo way :)
[17:54:05] <seb_kuzminsky> 'update-alternatives --set editor gvim' is the debian way
[17:55:01] <memfrob> i didnt even know debian had a default editor selector, i always modified /etc/profile heh
[17:56:23] <seb_kuzminsky> that works too
[18:04:21] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: i think "the user's preferred GUI editor" is $VISUAL
[18:04:32] <seb_kuzminsky> that may or may not be an abvious name for the thing we're talking about
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[18:19:13] <seb_kuzminsky> ah, err, no, it's even sillier than that
[18:19:30] <seb_kuzminsky> VISUAL is the "screen-oriented" editor, as opposed to EDITOR which is the line-oriented editor
[18:19:44] <seb_kuzminsky> 1979 called, they want their environment variables back...
[18:24:59] <pcw_home> Never know when you may need to edit with a TTY
[18:28:10] <archivist> I never want to edit with a tty ever again
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[19:33:19] <memfrob> seb_kuzminsky: LOL! love the 1979 joke. is that why environment variables took off?
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[21:25:00] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/hallib 90db5a4 06linuxcnc 10(5 files in 3 dirs) hallib: support halfiles in a system lib dir * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=90db5a4
[21:25:00] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/hallib 129d800 06linuxcnc 10(19 files in 7 dirs) sim/configs:use [HAL]HALFILE=LIB: (2 hallib items) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=129d800
[21:26:12] <dgarr> dgarr/lib_for_halfiles finally tested successfully in deb (branch for test only)
[21:26:22] <dgarr> new: dgarr/hallib -- proposed method (rebased on master)
[21:26:35] <dgarr> new: dgarr/hallib -- proposed method (rebased on master)
[21:26:53] <dgarr> opinions on this approach?
[21:28:09] <linuxcnc-build> build #2568 of 1901.clang-precise-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1901.clang-precise-amd64/builds/2568 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
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[21:31:39] <dgarr> i'm guessing that is a buildbot local problem? cp: cannot stat `/home/buildslave/emc2-buildbot/precise-amd64/precise-amd64-sim/source/.git/objects/pack/pack-89d0c5faeef4e1ea9f2f13ee2896cae5f212d3d7.pack': No such file or directory
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[21:43:31] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr: did you rebase & force-push that branch? if so the buildbot might have been trying to build an older version that no longer exists
[21:43:41] <seb_kuzminsky> memfrob: :-)
[21:43:53] <seb_kuzminsky> memfrob: i have no idea about the history of environment variables
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[21:44:28] <dgarr> seb dgarr/hallib was its first push, the other test branch was force pushed this am
[21:45:17] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm, i see it's commit 129d800c that it couldn't find, that's the head of that branch
[21:45:20] <seb_kuzminsky> strange
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[21:46:12] <dgarr> it only seems a problem on 2 branches, some kind of race maybe
[21:46:30] <dgarr> s/2 branches/2 hosts/
[21:48:52] <seb_kuzminsky> the git stuff is sequenced in the buildbot, it shouldnt race about it
[21:49:58] <seb_kuzminsky> it successfully fetched that commit from my local git server
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[21:53:33] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr: here's the problem: Auto packing the repository in background for optimum performance.
[21:54:17] <seb_kuzminsky> that interacted badly with the non-git "cp" of the repo that the buildbot does
[21:54:25] <dgarr> glad you found it.
[21:54:44] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=dgarr/hallib 0000.checkin
[21:54:49] <linuxcnc-build> The build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts
[21:55:15] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr: yep, sorry for the hassle
[21:55:34] <seb_kuzminsky> i should see about moving repo packing to the foreground in the buildbot
[21:55:56] <dgarr> seb_kuzminsky: any comments on the method in these branches for [HAL]HALFILE = LIB:filename ?? i think it could be useful
[22:00:47] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr: i haven't read the branch in detail yet, but i like the general idea
[22:01:17] <seb_kuzminsky> i need to go help my parents take care of some stuff around their house, i'll try to give you better feedback tonight
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[22:03:36] <dgarr> it s useful for the two items implemented but could be extend to address the Makefile configs: (COPY_CONFIGS) and simplify the config tree (a lot) i would need some positive feedback to work on that
[22:04:42] <dgarr> cradek: jepler others, comments on above welcom dgarr/hallib branch
[22:05:36] <dgarr> ^^
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[22:15:52] <linuxcnc-build> build forced [ETA 1h16m23s]
[22:15:52] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[23:08:49] <linuxcnc-build> Hey! build 0000.checkin #2783 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[23:08:49] <linuxcnc-build> Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/0000.checkin/builds/2783
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[23:24:41] <pcw_home> skunkworks:
[23:24:43] <pcw_home> http://imagebin.ca/v/1kXpF29yI3w9
[23:24:45] <pcw_home> decent stepgen performance over Ethernet at high speeds/accel
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[23:28:30] <pcw_home> position jitter at 100 ips slew ~= to a sampling time jitter of 50 ns
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