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[03:36:51] <skunkworks> dad has a replacement servo coming from ebay.. (a bit of a gamble - but cheap)
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[05:33:53] <memfrob> with kernel 3.18 my radeon r9 290 works with 2d and 3d hw accel, first time i ever had this working
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[12:37:12] <jthornton> is there a 2.7 deb on buildbot? I don't see it on the list at buildbot.linuxcnc.org
[13:01:24] <Tom_itx> jthornton, you can check it out from master
[13:02:17] <jthornton> yea, I know you can get a checkout, I was wondering about a deb
[13:02:37] <Tom_itx> i don't think there is one yet
[13:03:05] <jthornton> I see 2.7 docs
[13:03:44] <jthornton> I'm just wondering if the buildbot page is not updated yet?
[13:04:59] <Tom_itx> couldn't say
[13:07:23] <jthornton> seb_kuzm1nsky, I just got some info from dgarr on moveoff and I'm thinking a new subdirectory off of docs/src. What's your thoughts on this?
[13:10:59] <Tom_itx> if anybody keeps track of it here, i added my mesa bitfile build instructions to the wiki the other day
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[13:24:05] <jthornton> seb_kuzm1nsky, after some study I think it goes in config
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[14:33:01] <seb_kuzm1nsky> jthornton: the buildbot does make 2.7 debs, but i've not added the info to the front page yet
[14:33:05] <seb_kuzm1nsky> hold on, i'll do it now
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[14:40:46] <seb_kuzm1nsky> errrr, no i wont
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[14:42:13] <seb_kuzminsky> the buildbot currently makes debs with the old names
[14:42:38] <seb_kuzminsky> 2.6 (and older) make "2.6-rt" for rtai and "2.6-sim" for sim
[14:42:55] <seb_kuzminsky> but 2.7 and newer need to make "2.7-rtai" for rtai and "2.7-uspace" for sim/rt-preempt
[14:43:12] <seb_kuzminsky> i've been meaning to teach the buildbot to do this new thing, but i haven't gotten to it yet
[14:43:43] <seb_kuzminsky> you can access the 2.7 debs via the old names, but i dont want to publicize that...
[14:44:01] <seb_kuzminsky> so 2.7-rt for rtai and 2.7-sim for uspace
[14:45:29] <seb_kuzminsky> the rename is a little tricky, since we want to "build rip and runtests" on three kernels (rtai, rt-preempt, and vanilla), but we only want to build debs on two (rtai and *either* rt-preempt or vanilla)
[14:45:57] <seb_kuzminsky> and the buildbot needs to support pre-2.7 branches as well as 2.7-and-later
[14:47:41] <seb_kuzminsky> jthornton: uhm, about the docs
[14:48:54] <seb_kuzminsky> i'd like to move towards a directory structure under docs/src that matches the "presentation layout" of our docs
[14:49:15] <seb_kuzminsky> so docs/src/getting-started, docs/src/user-manual, docs/src/integrator-manual, etc
[14:49:49] <JT-Shop> yea that makes sense
[14:50:00] <seb_kuzminsky> so far i've (nearly) done that reorg to the getting-started manual, but i've not finished it & pushed it to 2.7 yet
[14:51:08] <seb_kuzminsky> if you're adding moveoff docs (thanks!), that should probably go in docs/src/config for now, and if/when we reorganize the integrator manual we'll move it to the right place then (along with all the other documents that belong)
[14:51:33] <seb_kuzminsky> i should hurry up and push the getting-started docs reorg...
[14:51:56] <JT-Shop> ok, that is what I did this morning... I'm still checking the addition so I havn't pushed it yet
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[14:56:04] <seb_kuzminsky> perfect
[14:56:26] <seb_kuzminsky> i'll wait for you to push your changes to 2.7, then i'll push my reorg changes to 2.7
[14:58:09] <JT-Shop> ok
[15:01:33] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 052.7 d734e64 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/Master_Integrator.txt 10docs/src/Submakefile 03docs/src/config/moveoff.txt 10docs/src/index.tmpl Docs: add moveoff * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d734e64
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[15:12:37] <seb_kuzminsky> wow, that was fast!
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[15:18:47] <JT-Shop> if I could only get my work done that fast...
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[15:24:06] <seb_kuzminsky> JT-Shop: i like that you (or dgarr?) called it "move while paused", to draw attention to the fact that it's not exactly jogging
[15:24:20] <seb_kuzminsky> (as opposed to calling it jog-while-paused)
[15:26:17] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 7bf57fe 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/index_es.tmpl docs: minor reorg in the Spanish html index * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=7bf57fe
[15:26:23] <seb_kuzminsky> the translation mess in our docs is depressing
[15:27:31] <JT-Shop> yes it is
[15:28:09] <JT-Shop> that was dgarr words... I still need to format it a bit
[15:28:15] <seb_kuzminsky> ok
[15:28:30] <JT-Shop> I'm off to work now
[15:28:35] <seb_kuzminsky> i should be too
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[15:31:33] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/2.7/docs-reorg 81d3f82 06linuxcnc 10(81 files in 9 dirs) docs: reorg Getting Started (English) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=81d3f82
[15:31:33] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/2.7/docs-reorg 0df3342 06linuxcnc 10(76 files in 8 dirs) docs: reorg Getting Started (French) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=0df3342
[15:31:33] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/2.7/docs-reorg df737e8 06linuxcnc 10(21 files in 5 dirs) docs: reorg Getting Started (Spanish) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=df737e8
[15:31:35] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/2.7/docs-reorg 7583d89 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/getting-started/Getting-Started-with-LinuxCNC.contents-es.txt add FAQ to spanish * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=7583d89
[15:32:51] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: i just got this error while pushing the docs-reorg branch:
http://pastie.org/9774329
[15:33:42] <seb_kuzminsky> the buildbot did *not* get notified of the push, but the commits showed up in the git repo:
http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/seb/2.7/docs-reorg
[15:33:55] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=seb/2.7/docs-reorg 0000.checkin
[15:34:00] <linuxcnc-build> The build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts
[15:34:04] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl
[15:34:58] <cradek> ok everyone hold still
[15:45:50] <cradek> :120000 100644 9b02a37... c7509ae... T docs/src/common/images/axis_25_fr.png
[15:46:04] <cradek> this is the line it's failing on - I think it expects the T to be one of M,A,D
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[15:47:47] <cradek> T = "change in the type of the file"
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[15:54:12] <cradek> I don't know what that means
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[15:58:31] <jepler> I think it changed from a symlink to a file
[16:02:16] <jepler> this new sbc from hardkernel.com looks interesting. quad core 1.5GHz, 1GB RAM, gigabit ethernet, $35 (if shipped from s. korea; $37 at the US reseller). though by the time you finish adding accessories like a comfortably large eMMC module, you'll still hit $100 for the whole system.
[16:02:47] <jepler> .. there's a gigabit ethernet MAC in the SoC, so it might work with hm2-eth
[16:04:00] <cradek> well I added T to the regexp and now it's running ... and running ...
[16:04:05] <cradek> yeah it ran
[16:04:12] <cradek> I have no idea whether that's a right fix
[16:04:21] <cradek> this is code that is special to push -f
[16:04:24] <jepler> Amlogic S805 (Cortex-A5, Mali-450). perhaps CaptHindsight has an opinon about this SoC, he knows about so many of them
[16:04:47] <jepler> http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G141578608433&tab_idx=2
[16:04:52] <cradek> seems like push -f a "type" change was broken
[16:05:09] <CaptHindsight> jepler: spotted that a few days ago, looks good
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[16:06:34] <CaptHindsight> also working on this
http://openlunchbox.com/ now that we found the source for the good keyboards we can make the whole laptop without much pain
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[16:08:48] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: thanks!
[16:09:17] <CaptHindsight> http://www.amlogic.com/product02.htm for more info on the S805 you have to contact U.S 2518 Mission College Blvd, Suite 120 Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA Tel: +1 408-850-9688
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[16:11:00] <CaptHindsight> schematics and pinout
http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G141578608433&tab_idx=2
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[16:12:12] <CaptHindsight> http://odroid.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=en:odroid-c1 no source trees yet for u-boot or kernels yet :(
[16:13:55] <CaptHindsight> http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/03/10/amlogic-gpl-source-code-release-kernel-3-10-u-boot-and-drivers-wi-fi-nand-tvin-mali-gpu/
[16:14:25] <CaptHindsight> http://openlinux.amlogic.com:8000/download/ARM/
[16:15:12] <CaptHindsight> http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/02/19/amlogic-s802-m802-android-4-4-sdk-documentation-and-reference-schematics-are-almost-available
[16:15:15] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 052.7 3ff86cd 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/touchy/ngcgui/pyngcgui_touchy_moveoff.ini 10scripts/moveoff_gui 10src/hal/components/moveoff.comp moveoff: update for manpage and touchscreen use * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ff86cd
[16:15:15] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 052.7 f05e53e 06linuxcnc 10scripts/moveoff_gui moveoff_gui: --help: show opts defaults better * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=f05e53e
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[16:26:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 052.7 262b8af 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/config/moveoff.txt Docs: update moveoff to match man page * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=262b8af
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[16:48:19] <Connor> seb_kuzminsky: What's in 2.8 vs 2.7 at this point ?
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[16:54:34] <seb_kuzminsky> Connor: there's not much new in 2.8 (aka master) yet
[16:54:54] <Connor> but, is stuff from 2.7 going into it also?
[16:55:43] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, hardly anything new in master
[16:55:45] <Connor> Now that we have 3 branches.. I'm finding it hard to know which one to use..
[16:56:07] <seb_kuzminsky> yes, everything that goes into any of the stable branches (2.5, 2.6, 2.7) gets merged into master
[16:56:40] <seb_kuzminsky> if you care mostly about stability and productivity, use the stable branch, 2.6
[16:56:57] <Connor> So why do we have a 2.8 while we have a 2.7 too ?
[16:57:18] <seb_kuzminsky> if you care about new features and want to help stabilize the *next* stable branch, use 2.7
[16:57:30] <seb_kuzminsky> if you want to develop new features, use master (aka 2.8)
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[16:57:48] <Connor> I'm be using gmoccapy and looks like lots of fixes going on for it.
[16:59:08] <seb_kuzminsky> we have master (aka 2.8) and 2.7 because they are for different things
[16:59:44] <seb_kuzminsky> 2.7 is "frozen", meaning it's only getting bugfixes, no new features, so that it can become more stable in preparation for releasing 2.7.0
[17:00:14] <seb_kuzminsky> master (aka 2.8) is the new-development branch, where any new, potentially destabilizing features will be developed
[17:00:41] <Connor> ok. and 2.6 is most stable and your backporting fixed from 2.7 into it ?
[17:00:42] <Connor> or not ?
[17:01:28] <seb_kuzminsky> 2.6 is the current stable branch, but the normal workflow does not involve backporting things to it
[17:01:59] <seb_kuzminsky> Connor:
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/code/Contributing-to-LinuxCNC.html#_use_of_git_in_the_linuxcnc_project
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[17:03:41] <Connor> Unless something major pops up and you need to push it down to 2.6 I guess..
[17:04:23] <cradek> oh hey the docs say just what I was going to say
[17:04:34] <Connor> So, where is the work going on for Jog while paused, or what ever we're calling it.
[17:05:04] <Connor> that in 2.8 I guess..
[17:05:12] <cradek> moveoff is going to be in 2.7
[17:05:23] <seb_kuzminsky> Connor: if there's a bug, the proper thing to do (as that document says) is to fix it in the oldest applicable branch, probably 2.6 at the moment
[17:05:40] <seb_kuzminsky> if someone accidentally puts the bugfix in a later branch, then yes i would backport it to 2.6
[17:05:52] <Connor> Okay...
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[17:06:03] <Connor> I guess moveoff got in before the feature freeze..
[17:06:15] <cradek> these things really are answered in those first couple sentences at that docs url
[17:06:23] <seb_kuzminsky> moveoff (the interim jog-while-paused solution) was developed (by dgarr) in a feature branch, then cleaned up and merged into 2.7
[17:06:40] <seb_kuzminsky> i accepted it into 2.7 because it's a very isolated, low-risk change
[17:06:54] <seb_kuzminsky> again, as described in the doc i linked you
[17:07:30] <Connor> I'm looking it over. I use SVN.. closed source project.. not done a huge amount with GIT.
[17:07:30] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr just merged moveoff into 2.7, it'll be in the next pre-release :-)
[17:07:39] <cradek> yay
[17:07:44] <seb_kuzminsky> yay :-)
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[17:08:05] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, the way branches and merges are supported is a big difference between svn and git
[17:08:06] <Connor> Somehow I ended up with 2.8 on my sim machine..
[17:08:26] <seb_kuzminsky> did you build from source or install debs from the buildbot?
[17:09:10] <seb_kuzminsky> Connor: it'd probably be worth your while to at least skim the git documentation linked here:
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/code/Contributing-to-LinuxCNC.html#_git_tutorials
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[17:09:47] <Connor> In my application, I have a trunk and dev branch. I use a working copy as a beta for bug fixes and short term stuff, long term and other developers work in the dev branch..
[17:10:01] <Connor> having to merge down from trunk to dev sucks.
[17:10:27] <seb_kuzminsky> i also used to hate branches and merges
[17:10:33] <seb_kuzminsky> ... before i switched from svn to git ;-)
[17:10:58] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: speaking of merges, i've been using git-imerge lately and it's awesome
[17:11:28] <Connor> how often do you have to go in and deal with conflicts ?
[17:11:33] <cradek> I see you keep saying that, but I haven't even googled it to see what it is
[17:11:49] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMZ2_-Ny_zc
[17:12:00] <seb_kuzminsky> Connor: all the time, but git makes it easy
[17:13:03] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: the elevator pitch is: it's just like git-merge and/or git-rebase, except you get smaller easier conflicts and you can checkpoint (and push!) the in-progress merge/rebase
[17:13:46] <cradek> that sounds nice
[17:13:49] <seb_kuzminsky> git-merge gives you a conflict between the two branch heads, git-rebase gives you conflicts between each commit on one branch and the head on the other branch
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[17:14:14] <seb_kuzminsky> git-imerge gives you conflicts between commits on one branch and commits on the other branch, which sounds awful but turns out to be awesome
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[17:51:26] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: it looks like a great idea, although I couldn't make it through the video
[17:51:44] <cradek> I assume at the end it collapses all those little merges and looks like a normal merge?
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[18:11:24] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 052.7 6d55eab 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/hookup_moveoff.tcl 10docs/src/config/moveoff.txt 10scripts/moveoff_gui 10src/hal/components/moveoff.comp moveoff_gui: correct text errors for is connected * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d55eab
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[18:25:29] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: at the end you can make it look like a merge or a rebase or a couple of other things that i dont care that much about
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[18:29:49] <seb_kuzminsky> those failures are a bug in the docs-reorg branch, i didn't move the Linux_FAQ*.txt files to getting-started/ correctly
[18:29:53] <seb_kuzminsky> i'll fix it tonight
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[18:46:26] <Connor> wow build bot.. way to spit out stuff.
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[20:37:54] <seb_kuzminsky> bwaahaha
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[20:38:29] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm looking at po4a (gettext for documentation), and i came across a package called 'gettext-lint', and i tried to run one of its checkers, and i got this error:
[20:38:32] <seb_kuzminsky> bash: /usr/bin/POFileClean: /usr/bin/python^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[20:39:24] <seb_kuzminsky> po4a looks really promising, btw
[20:39:56] <seb_kuzminsky> you can feed it a master document and a localized document, and it'll spit out a .po file for the localization
[20:40:12] <seb_kuzminsky> then you can feed it the master document and the .po file, and it'll spit out a localized document
[20:40:30] <seb_kuzminsky> each paragraph in the asciidoc .txt files becomes one translatable string
[20:40:58] <seb_kuzminsky> the new version of po4a in jessie understands (supposedly) asciidoc markup so things like lists and tables should work right, but i haven't verified that yet
[20:41:22] <seb_kuzminsky> i'll push a branch tonight that shows how it works
[20:43:10] <seb_kuzminsky> there are gettext translators' tools in both gnome (gtranslate) and kde, and there's gettext modes for vim and emacs but i haven't played with them yet
[20:43:26] <seb_kuzminsky> and of course .po files are just flat text files that can be edited "by hand"
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[22:16:34] <seb_kuzminsky> sigh, that POFileClean bug is known by debian.org, it was opened in 2011 and hasn't been fixed :-/
[22:16:37] <seb_kuzminsky> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=627762
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