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[00:01:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Michael Geszkiewicz 052.7 c72e6f6 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/sserial.c hostmot2: sserial: Fix .scalemax parameter was ignored on analog inputs * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c72e6f6
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[00:19:01] <micges-dev> jepler: does HAL_NAME_LEN == 41 from specific reason? or it was just set for this value on beggining and it was enough? we are out of chars in some hostmot2 configurations
[00:21:31] <seb_kuzminsky> it's because jepler's floppy disk was full and his mom said he couldnt have any more until he mowed the yard
[00:21:59] <PCW> can we buy a vowel?
[00:22:31] <micges-dev> haha I see :)
[00:22:40] <micges-dev> seb_kuzminsky: we got hm2_7i76e.0.7i76.0.0.fieldvoltage-scalema
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[00:39:18] <seb_kuzminsky> does anything break if you bump it up to... 57? (that's the next logical option after 41)
[00:40:50] <PCW> Heinz 57?
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[00:43:01] <PCW> or are these parts of lumps allocated on 16 byte boundaries?
[00:43:12] <seb_kuzminsky> PCW: can't you just make shorter part numbers?
[00:43:37] <PCW> the 7I76e broke a lot of things
[00:44:41] <seb_kuzminsky> wow that's a neat board!
[00:45:41] <PCW> and with linuxcnc 2.7 coming out maybe even usable
[00:47:47] <PCW> (Ive had it running almost a year now so I'm pretty sure linuxcnc network stack/Preemt-RT is trustworthy)
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[00:57:21] <jepler> HAL_NAME_LEN + 1 is a multiple of 4, so it doesn't introduce gaps in structures when followed by a pointer
[00:57:44] <PCW> OK
[00:58:08] <jepler> but ideally it HAL_NAME_LEN + 1 would be a multiple of 8, since some types have 8 bit alignment requirements
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[00:58:51] <jepler> I think names take up a substantial portion of the HAL shared memory area, so I'd recommend to expand it by the same fraction as names are expanded
[01:00:24] <cpresser> when i want to get this fix: "hostmot2: sserial: Fix .scalemax..". do i need to compile myself, or can i just get a binary from the buildbot?
[01:00:26] <jepler> HAL_NAME_LEN was apparently 31 from 2003 (originally) until 2005, that would have given the desired 8-alignment. it was increased to 41 by alex_joni
[01:00:32] <jepler> and I lied when I said 42 was divisible by 4
[01:02:30] <PCW> 43?
[01:02:49] <jepler> I bet that's not divisible by 4 either
[01:03:00] <PCW> 43 +1 is
[01:03:36] <jepler> is 2 more characters enough?
[01:03:46] <PCW> for now
[01:05:08] <jepler> while we're dabbling, I am pretty sure HAL_SIZE should be a multiple of 4096
[01:05:13] <PCW> I will try to be less extravagant with names
[01:06:44] <jepler> cpresser: you can see from the "kgb" message that the commit went on the 2.7 branch, so within a couple of hours it'll be in the buildbot's 2.7~pre packages
[01:07:49] <cpresser> jepler: thats what i assumed.. however i cant seem fo find a 2.7 repository:
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/
[01:08:23] <jepler> cpresser: seb must not have had enough tuits to get that page updated.
[01:08:36] <cpresser> ah nevermind. its there:
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/~buildmaster/dists/wheezy/2.7-rt/binary-i386/
[01:09:00] <jepler> OK
[01:09:14] <cpresser> but the page needs an update :)
[01:09:20] <jepler> I think if you take a 2.6 -rt line and change it to 2.7, that's the right one
[01:11:59] <cpresser> the patch which worksaround the kernel bug (enabled vs enable in sysfs) doesnt seem to be in the 2.7 brancht?
[01:13:35] <jepler> I don't remember what branch(es) I put it on
[01:14:47] <jepler> http://emergent.unpythonic.net/files/sandbox/0001-hal-increase-some-limits.patch
[01:15:01] <jepler> this seems to work, though I haven't run the full testsuite yet
[01:15:07] <cpresser> this one:
http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/jepler/uspace-pci-sysfs-enabled
[01:15:11] <jepler> name length to 47, shared memory area to (75*4096)
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[01:29:23] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: WDYT about increasing the hal limits like in
http://emergent.unpythonic.net/files/sandbox/0001-hal-increase-some-limits.patch ?
[01:29:29] <jepler> any later and we wouldn't want to do it for 2.7..
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[01:37:04] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.7 d6c114a 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_app.cc uspace: don't try to use rt hardening except on a realtime kernel * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6c114a
[01:37:04] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.7 1b1ab10 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/rtapi_pci.cc uspace: compensate for kernel API breakage * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b1ab10
[01:37:04] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.7 174a0a3 06linuxcnc 10(10 files in 2 dirs) tests: test nml-over-tcp * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=174a0a3
[01:37:06] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.7 4da1da8 06linuxcnc 10(13 files in 7 dirs) nml: convert arch-dependent types to fixed-width types * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=4da1da8
[01:37:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.7 c4c7fb9 06linuxcnc 10(30 files in 8 dirs) nml: implement command queue with reliable reception * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c4c7fb9
[01:46:35] <PCW> hmm my J1800 definitely does not like isolcpus=1 with preemt-RT
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[02:46:25] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.6 3991f9c 06linuxcnc fast forward * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=3991f9c
[02:47:50] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.7 0378170 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/hal/comp.txt 03src/hal/utils/halcompile.g Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.6' into 2.7 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=0378170
[02:48:52] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master bf22e30 06linuxcnc Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.7' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf22e30
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[03:53:15] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.7 66dd596 06linuxcnc 10tests/comp-extralib/test.sh tests: comp was renamed halcompile * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=66dd596
[03:53:25] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master 49a9ed2 06linuxcnc Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.7' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=49a9ed2
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[04:40:38] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/jog_ignore_fo 2b5c9ce 06linuxcnc 10(10 files in 6 dirs) inifile: support jog_ignore_feed_override * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b5c9ce
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[05:01:16] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: 0001-hal-increase-some-limits.patch looks good for 2.7
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[12:58:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.7 5735855 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/hal.h 10src/hal/hal_priv.h hal: increase some limits * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5735855
[12:59:29] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master 19dcbde 06linuxcnc Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.7' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=19dcbde
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[14:27:20] <micges> jepler: make after git pull doesn't rebuild hostmot2
[14:28:01] <micges> jepler: still got 41 chars
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[14:28:40] <micges> jepler: (I know make clean will fix it but still I think it could be fixed)
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[14:53:04] <skunkworks> cradek, what ethernet to wireless adaptors have you used?
[14:53:49] <cradek> I just use old wrt54 family routers from goodwill with dd-wrt on them
[14:54:08] <cradek> I have a handful of them
[14:54:34] <skunkworks> can you have 2 bridges on 1 access point/router?
[14:54:53] <cradek> sure
[14:54:58] <cradek> there's nothing magic about it
[14:55:04] <skunkworks> great!
[14:55:26] <cradek> my little lathe (which is on a wheeled cart) has one permanently on it
[14:56:23] <jepler> micges: uspace or rtai?
[14:56:35] <micges> uspace
[14:57:29] <jepler> oops I did not mean to type make -j156
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[14:57:59] <jepler> $ touch hal/hal.h
[14:58:02] <jepler> $ make -j15
[14:58:04] <jepler> ...
[14:58:10] <jepler> Compiling realtime hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/hostmot2.c
[14:58:43] <jepler> here it appears to rebuild as expected when hal.h changes
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[14:59:54] <micges> hmm here doesn't, I'll pay attention to this, thanks
[15:00:03] <jepler> If you can figure out the cause, let me know.
[15:00:25] <jepler> http://pastie.org/9719169
[15:01:09] <micges> ok
[15:01:55] <jepler> or, if not the cause, at least how to reproduce the problem
[15:02:17] <micges> here's mine:
http://pastebin.com/s25ZyMbJ
[15:03:26] <jepler> so if you do what I did, touch hal/hal.h; make -j15 ../rtlib/hostmot2.so
[15:03:29] <jepler> what output do you get?
[15:04:24] <jepler> also what is the content of the file [src/]objects/rthal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/hostmot2.d
[15:04:49] <jepler> mine is
http://pastie.org/9719177 which as expected includes /home/jepler/local/src/linuxcnc/src/hal/hal.h
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[15:07:58] <micges> ok that's not the problem
[15:08:03] <micges> it compiles ok
[15:09:03] <micges> problem is when I pull --rebase after message today '<KGB-linuxcnc> Jeff Epler 2.7 5735855 linuxcnc src/hal/hal.h src/hal/hal_priv.h h' changes doesn't get to local repo
[15:09:45] <micges> I tried to compile about 1h later
[15:10:04] <micges> (git pull and compile)
[15:10:38] <jepler> $ git fetch; git log -1 --oneline origin/2.7
[15:10:38] <jepler> 5735855 hal: increase some limits
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[15:13:11] <jepler> $ git remote show origin | grep 'Fetch URL'; git ls-remote origin 2.7
[15:13:11] <jepler> Fetch URL: git://git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git
[15:13:11] <jepler> 5735855f5e3c7456299f4e16931d11d63979ecfe refs/heads/2.7
[15:18:23] <jepler> in other words, I have no idea how you are getting 66dd596 as the tip of 2.7 when you fetch (pull).
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[15:30:19] <micges> now it's ok but 1h after KGB message with your's todays commits I got 66dd596
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[15:31:37] <skunkworks> you do live in poland..(you need to take into account the speed of light...) ;)
[15:32:23] <cradek> not to be too blunt, but you must have done something wrong? the kgb message is generated by a hook that runs at git push time, so there is no delay.
[15:34:44] <micges> it could be but I did the same operations many times, right after interesting push
[15:36:27] <micges> I'll pay attention on this
[15:36:51] <micges> skunkworks: seems cables goes through russia :)
[15:41:21] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/jog_no_fo 0d18f03 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/motion/control.c jogging: ignore feedoverride * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d18f03
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[16:09:13] <skunkworks> dad has decided that a linear scale on y is a priority.. he is chasing .003 cold to hot. (funny how .003 is a lot..)
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[16:11:32] <seb_kuzminsky> i wish dgarr had called it jog_no_fo_mofo
[16:12:34] <skunkworks> wow
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[16:14:18] <cradek> the question is: 2.6 or 2.7
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[16:14:44] <cradek> skunkworks: it'd be easier to just sneak in and hide the micrometers
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[16:20:14] <archivist> give him his chalk back, that should be good enough
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[16:48:20] <seb_kuzminsky> we're so helpful
[16:53:21] <skunkworks> :)
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[17:00:27] <jepler> if you were pulling from some other place, like github linuxcnc-mirror, there can be a delay
[17:02:17] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek, dgarr: i think 2.7, and an apologetic release note about accidentally changing it in 2.6
[17:05:48] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: dgarr isn't here
[17:06:34] <skunkworks> he is on users..
[17:08:31] <jepler> huh, linux kernel (A) still supports gcc 3.2 (or maybe 3.4) as a minimum version and (B) remain committed to using gnu89 as the C standard
[17:09:15] <jepler> so now that gcc 5 will make -std=gnu11 the default (or maybe -std=c11) they are in trouble
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[19:02:52] <seb_kuzminsky> whew, finally, i have a super-quick repro test program for the dropped-mdi bug in the lui branch
[19:06:23] <jepler> yay
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[19:10:03] <seb_kuzminsky> the repro is this: be in mdi mode, send an mdi command (& wait for task to echo the serial number), send a command to change the task mode
[19:10:26] <seb_kuzminsky> task receives the mdi command and starts proessing it, then it drops the mdi when the task-mode command comes in
[19:12:06] <seb_kuzminsky> this is with lui sending the commands, but the debug output from task clearly shows it doing the wrong thing: receiving the mdi & echoing the serial, then dropping it when the task-mode command comes in
[19:15:48] <seb_kuzminsky> http://pastie.org/9719635
[19:15:54] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl
[19:17:04] <jepler> if you send an mdi command and then immediately switch out of mdi mode, what do you expect to happen?
[19:17:18] <cradek> if you start a long-running mdi command in AXIS and then switch to manual (jogging) mode, it aborts the mdi command
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[20:15:59] <seb_kuzminsky> hmmm
[20:16:18] <seb_kuzminsky> i guess i had expected the mdi to run until completion or abort
[20:17:01] <seb_kuzminsky> maybe i've been chasing a misunderstanding these past few days :-/
[20:22:52] <seb_kuzminsky> wait, no, the original (slow-running) test waits for the reported motion to get to the target of the mdi g0 before switching modes
[20:25:39] <seb_kuzminsky> maybe i monkeyed up command completion detection in halui
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[21:02:45] <seb_kuzminsky> haha
[21:03:04] <seb_kuzminsky> i think it's a bug i introduced in halui, just like jepler said like 3 days ago
[21:03:38] <seb_kuzminsky> i update the lui status buffer but not the emcStatus buffer, and bogusly use the old out-of-date emcStatus buffer to see if the mdi command is done yet
[21:03:41] <seb_kuzminsky> maybe
[21:03:43] <seb_kuzminsky> will look more
[21:03:47] <seb_kuzminsky> sigh
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[21:12:19] <Tom_itx> on the bright side... it _is_ Friday
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[21:24:55] <seb_kuzminsky> hm, no, that's not it either, since jeff's lui_get_status_nml() trick
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