#linuxcnc-devel | Logs for 2014-09-14

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[00:00:03] <NTU> (a lot of scrollback to read)
[00:05:10] <NTU> RTAI works around HPET and will use APIC if available, if not, 8254
[00:06:32] <NTU> as for 8259 that only affects 32-bit systems, furthermore if IO_APIC is enabled in kernel, 8259 code is not used
[00:06:45] <NTU> 64-bit RTAI cannot use 8259
[00:06:54] <NTU> HPET doesnt affect RTAI at all
[00:07:18] <NTU> you can enable / disable in both kernel and BIOS it wont affect anything
[00:07:55] <NTU> git grep "APIC" git grep "8254" for more details
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[00:10:53] <NTU> git grep "static int unsigned long used_apic" has the gritty details you're looking for
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[00:14:45] <NTU> as for RTAI on new ARM boards you need a board-specific timer setup .c file
[00:16:17] <NTU> im sure anyone more experienced with C and the amount of free time similar to mine could do it, they arent huge files
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[00:53:12] <jepler> this specification of the HPET repeatedly refers to "femptoseconds"
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[01:36:30] <NTU> the tricky thing with RTAI on ARM would be math support as well considering linuxcnc has a huge problem with sse sincos and all that
[01:37:08] <NTU> if i had to use -mfpmath=sse -msse -msse2 to get it working..
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[02:16:09] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 052.6 7fdc948 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/axis/xhc-hb04/README xhc-hb04/README update for udev rule file * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fdc948
[02:16:20] <skunkworks_> jepler I wonder what's actually going on with this user who says his disk runs the whole time linuxcnc is going
[02:16:28] <skunkworks_> 128mb ram?
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[02:27:45] <NTU> trying out new RTAI on 32-bit now
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[02:29:19] <NTU> compilation, latency-test and parport
[02:38:38] <skunkworks_> I hope to get time to test it this next week to see if it works better with some motherboards we have
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[02:47:03] <NTU> skunkworks_: did you save those bash scripts i wrote a few days ago?
[02:47:12] <skunkworks_> no...
[02:48:31] <NTU> ah it was yesterday i posted them
[02:50:17] <NTU> 12:10 < memleak> RTAI + linuxcnc build scripts (source, no packages) part 1: http://dpaste.com/3MZ80VQ.txt part 2: http://dpaste.com/2YQPMKZ.txt part 3: http://dpaste.com/07M3HVX.txt May use wget && chmod a+x on bash scripts
[02:50:21] <NTU> 12:13 < memleak> kernel is part 1, rtai userspace (/usr/realtime) is part 2, linuxcnc is part 3, skunkworks the default kernel config should boot on your system, its not quite as big as the debian / ubuntu config but should at least mount rootfs on most machines and distros
[02:51:40] <NTU> im also finally going to have a gentoo iso ready tonight if compiling rtai on 32-bit is a breeze
[02:52:07] <pcw_home> skunkworks_:
[02:52:09] <pcw_home> freeby.mesanet.com/7i80hd_16_svst2_4_7i47d.bit
[02:52:10] <pcw_home> is a stepgen config for the 7I80HD-16 with DPLL stepgen retiming support
[02:52:53] <skunkworks_> pcw_home: cool - will try it this week. .bit file?
[02:55:14] <skunkworks_> oh - it is the bit file for the 7i80.. duh. been a long day.
[02:55:15] <NTU> i also need to practice using dracut to make initramfs
[02:55:24] <NTU> so used to just a kernel..
[02:55:52] <pcw_home> freeby.mesanet.com/7i76edpll.zip
[02:55:53] <pcw_home> has example ini and hal file with the regsiter poking needed until
[02:55:55] <pcw_home> stepgen retiming is added to the driver (change 7I76e to 7I80 and IP to your IP)
[02:56:10] <skunkworks_> great!
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[02:58:00] <NTU> if for some odd reason the kernel you build doesnt boot just post lspci -k and ill just tune it to your system if the iso isnt done by the time you want to test the new RTAI code
[02:59:13] <NTU> i tried making it support as much hardware and distros as i could (by hand)
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[03:02:54] <skunkworks_> sounds good
[03:04:20] <NTU> it'd be really easy for me to make a tarball clone of my system which you could just decompress to a partition as well, that way i can just grub and not have to worry about writing a bunch of isolinux / boot loader crap by hand
[03:05:27] <NTU> *use grub
[03:07:24] <NTU> fdisk /dev/yourdeviceX && mkfs.ext4 /dev/yourdeviceX && mkdir -p /mnt/hdd && mount /dev/yourdeviceX /mnt/hdd && tar xpf tarball.tar.xz -C /mnt/hdd && update-grub
[03:09:01] <NTU> however i dont even know yet if the new RTAI code will even work on 32-bit and the systems you're using arent 64-bit from what you told me
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[03:17:12] <skunkworks_> correct
[03:23:54] <NTU> does your CPU support SSE2?
[03:25:08] <skunkworks_> I would have to look.. (I don't have the hardware here)
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[03:54:32] <NTU> ok. SSE2 is to satisfy IEEE floating point, prevents problems later on
[03:55:10] <NTU> i tried to avoid forcing SSE2 for a several hours but it only works without SSE2 using GCC 4.6 and earlier
[03:55:23] <NTU> *for several
[03:55:59] <NTU> thought it was a better fix than to force users to use old compilers
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[05:24:59] <NTU> where to upload gentoo RTAI live cd
[05:25:07] <NTU> is mediafire ok?
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[06:23:10] <NTU> oh perfect! mozilla distributes binary tarballs of firefox so i dont need to compile my browser for 8 hours!
[06:23:31] <NTU> thats incredible! im so used to building from source.
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[09:49:25] <NTU> 32-bit RTAI works
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[10:03:19] <NTU> squashfs is complete, now all i need to do is figure out syslinux
[10:03:58] <NTU> and various bootloader stuff.. which will take a solid hour of reading docs
[10:04:15] <NTU> considering its 5am i should stop.
[10:04:35] <NTU> (so addicting..)
[10:05:36] <NTU> 760MB will be the iso.. wont fit on a CD.
[10:06:39] <NTU> ah there is XZ compression! that might make it fit :)
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[10:43:18] <NTU> off to bed, more rtai livecd stuff later
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