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[00:11:23] <skunkworks> crappy video...
[00:11:26] <skunkworks> wow
[00:11:29] <skunkworks> crappy picture
[00:11:31] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/stirling/crankinstalled.jpg
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[02:46:37] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/stirling/DSC_2169.JPG
[02:47:10] <skunkworks> had to add a .004" shim for it to go work.. (missed it by that much..)
[02:48:07] <skunkworks> for it to work..
[02:56:48] <seb_kuzminsky> looks good sam!
[02:57:12] <jepler> what's four thou between friends?
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[03:15:36] <skunkworks> I don't know how I would live without a touch probe.. it sure makes life easier..
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[03:17:49] <skunkworks> I did break a tap today.... A bit impatient.. Dad got it out with a carbide drill - didn't effect the threads at all
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[16:04:15] <skunkworks> jepler, still running
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/7i80j1900.png
[16:04:49] <cradek> how long?
[16:05:04] <skunkworks> I started it monday
[16:05:09] <cradek> cool
[16:05:37] <skunkworks> This is the one that doesn't have as great latency.. (aproching 100us if you let it run for days..)
[16:10:19] <pcw_home> I should build you a config with DPLL so you can read the actual packet latency
[16:12:11] <pcw_home> This is interesting ,too bad its nvidia
[16:12:12] <pcw_home> http://www.nvidia.com/object/jetson-tk1-embedded-dev-kit.html
[16:14:14] <CaptHindsight> all the GPU based supercomputer clusters as Sandia and Los Alamos were considered failures since hardly anyone wanted to rewrite their code
[16:14:23] <CaptHindsight> as/at
[16:15:09] <jepler> "Infragistics Professional"
[16:15:16] <jepler> thanks sf for bringing me new product names to chuckle at
[16:15:41] <jepler> > Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future.
[16:15:44] <pcw_home> Even without the GPU its a fast CPU
[16:16:12] <CaptHindsight> Odroid announced a RPi clone yesterday using the same Broadcom ARM soc
[16:16:45] <CaptHindsight> yeah, I'll take anything fast, low power-latency-cost
[16:17:27] <CaptHindsight> too bad Nvidia is notoriously bad at sharing docs
[16:17:29] <pcw_home> faster than a lot of current low end X86 and lower power
[16:17:45] <pcw_home> Yeah not open source friendly
[16:18:09] <CaptHindsight> Buy Jetson TK1-Just $192 !
[16:18:16] <pcw_home> but nice hardware (4 PCIE lanes) 4X A15 cores
[16:18:25] <pcw_home> ~6W
[16:19:10] <pcw_home> has SPI 12C LCD and camera I/O and some GPIO
[16:20:12] <CaptHindsight> low power, features, low cost, high performance, open docs, low latency. Has it ever happened?
[16:21:20] <pcw_home> very often an issue with leadng edge products
[16:25:05] <CaptHindsight> sad to see how poor the latency is on the ZYNQ
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[16:27:14] <CaptHindsight> no open docs on the samsung Exynos 4412 but looks like ~25uS latency with preempt-rt
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[16:29:52] <CaptHindsight> imx6 is ~65uS preempt_rt
[16:35:49] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzi3dY2WU0k Firesight openCV for pick-n-place
[16:36:47] <CaptHindsight> https://github.com/firepick1/FireSight/wiki
[16:38:07] <CaptHindsight> this can be made as a plug-in to AXIS like camview with the auto zero
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[18:01:44] <kwallace2> Hello. I am playing with a PCIe single parallel port card. One issue I have with it is that I can't find any dual port cards and normal motherboards don't have more than two PCIe slots. Is there such a thing as a PCIe slot expansion? It's not a big deal to go to a 6i25, but I have an inquiring mind.
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[18:08:29] <pcw_home> http://www.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/Parallel/2-Port-EPPECP-PCI-Express-Parallel-Card~PEX2PECP
[18:09:52] <CaptHindsight> wow $20 but now replaced with a $76
http://www.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/Parallel/2-Port-EPPECP-PCI-Express-Parallel-Card~PEX2PECP2
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[18:10:34] <pcw_home> whats that chinese one you found?
[18:12:02] <CaptHindsight> only single port for $10 ...
[18:12:49] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/170988778068
[18:13:15] <pcw_home> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815287023
[18:13:17] <pcw_home> 2 port $32
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[18:18:21] <kwallace2> I guess if I have a motherboard with PCI slots I'll stick with PCI parallel ports for the slow signals.
[18:19:08] <CaptHindsight> PCI are easier to find than PCIe
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[18:25:42] <kwallace2> I guess PCI slots are still easy to find. Here is a cheap six ports worth:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157338
[18:26:11] <kwallace2> I guess I can get back to doing real work.
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[18:35:06] <cradek> it even has one built in
[18:39:28] <kwallace2> I fried a motherboard port early on, so I try hard to not use the built in port.
[18:41:07] <kwallace2> Crud, this PCIe card's outputs run at 3 Volts.
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[18:47:05] <pcw_home> Most new cards will be 3.3V
[18:47:25] <pcw_home> breakoust that dont use TTL levels are shite
[18:47:52] <pcw_home> 2.4V is a valid TTL high
[18:50:15] <pcw_home> Note that thers no 5V on PCIE bus at all
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[20:22:36] <memleak> 1.5 microseconds for the base thread and 8 microseconds on the servo thread with preempt-rt, running for about 45 minutes now. firefox makes it jump in the 100-150 range but while idling its par with RTAI.
[20:23:18] <memleak> (master branch)
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[20:29:54] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: i just pushed glade-3 for wheezy to the wlo repo
[20:30:08] <seb_kuzminsky> i also added ttt & mesaflash for amd64, for precise and wheezy
[20:31:09] <seb_kuzminsky> memleak: that's pretty awesome
[20:31:20] <cradek> sounds like I should add that to the cd? is the package glade-3?
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[20:35:23] <cradek> or is it going to be a dependency?
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[21:06:38] <seb_kuzminsky> it's glade-gnome and glade-gtk2, version 3.8.0
[21:07:18] <seb_kuzminsky> i dont know exactly (jepler?), but i think we should have versioned build-dependencies, and/or versioned runtime dependencies in linuxcnc-dev
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[23:20:25] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: thank you!
[23:20:35] <jepler> somebody needs to write some documentation about how to effectively edit those files
[23:20:47] <jepler> but .. not me, I am not a user of that
[23:21:06] <jepler> glade-gtk2 is not a build dependency or a runtime dependency of linuxcnc
[23:21:21] <jepler> but the binary package could have a recommends: for this
[23:21:56] <jepler> because it's another package that is likely to be useful to a good chunk of linuxcnc users
[23:22:38] <Tom_itx> oh is this about the glade stuff?
[23:22:46] <Tom_itx> sry, my power has been out..
[23:24:06] <jepler> Tom_itx: yes, to edit the .glade / .ui files in linuxcnc requires a different version of glade than is packaged in debian 7
[23:24:35] <jepler> after I did some research, seb_kuzminsky built a version that does work, porting it from ubuntu 14.04 to debian 7
[23:24:44] <Tom_itx> oh nice
[23:25:21] <Tom_itx> i'm not a glade user either but i did follow jt's tutorials on it
[23:26:07] <jepler> but probably the people who are working on the gtk stuff in linuxcnc should take a look at "modernizing" our stuff so that 2.7 ends up compatible with current gtk when it (2.7) comes out ... apparently gtk 3 is quite different than gtk 2 and they don't care to maintain their backwards incompatibility forever
[23:27:15] <Tom_itx> i gathered that from earlier posts
[23:32:15] <PCW> Ha found an extra packet from hm2_eth (with a scope of all things)
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