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[01:58:09] <skunkworks_> I should stop saying in post that the 5i25 'acts like 2 printer ports on steroids...'
[01:58:13] <skunkworks_> posts
[01:58:43] <Tom_itx> heh
[01:59:57] <pcw_home> well its called Superport on the PCB so its partially my fault
[02:00:58] <Tom_itx> any plans for 'big brothers' for it on the way?
[02:01:42] <pcw_home> NSA big brother?
[02:01:52] <Tom_itx> heh
[02:02:23] <Tom_itx> bigger better versions...
[02:04:26] <pcw_home> well theres the 5I24 and 6I24
[02:04:51] <Tom_itx> huh, transferring files from 10.04 to wheezy i find a thumbdrive to be much slower than a SD on a USB adapter
[02:06:51] <jepler> pcw_home: hm, coming up empty on 6i24. I assume it's intended to be the Express version of the 5i24?
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[02:07:29] <pcw_home> Yes
[02:09:45] <pcw_home> I'm itching to make a card with the Artix chips
[02:10:09] <pcw_home> only problem is the smallest one is pretty big
[02:11:08] <Tom_itx> what makes them stand out over what you're using?
[02:11:50] <pcw_home> faster and denser mainly also 2x 1 ms/sec 12 bit A-Ds
[02:12:22] <Tom_itx> are those still xilinx chips?
[02:12:28] <jepler> Tom_itx: http://www.xilinx.com/products/silicon-devices/fpga/artix-7/
[02:13:08] <pcw_home> the cheapest one is $30.00 dollarish
[02:13:43] <Tom_itx> strictly bga i suppose
[02:14:23] <pcw_home> I think so but am not sure
[02:14:41] <pcw_home> native PCIE gen2.0
[02:15:03] <jepler> yeah I am only spotting bga packages in that pdf
[02:15:32] <jepler> ball pitch 0.5 - 1.0mm
[02:15:57] <Tom_itx> board cost goes up too then
[02:16:02] <Tom_itx> more layers
[02:16:14] <pcw_home> once you get above a certain speed the long wiggly power and ground wiring of QFPs becomes a major problem
[02:16:32] <pcw_home> too much ground bounce
[02:17:06] <jepler> the analog part sounds nice
[02:17:08] <pcw_home> we use BGAs all the time on 4 layer
[02:17:36] <pcw_home> split power planes of course
[02:17:41] <Tom_itx> right
[02:17:48] <jepler> but the biggest mass of people who want analog inputs (reprap types) are mostly too cost-averse to buy nice electronics
[02:18:34] <cradek> jepler: I was at the shop today and for some reason all my spare opto22 modules are white and black - no reds.
[02:18:43] <cradek> lots of whites of different speeds
[02:19:24] <pcw_home> If they made smaller ones I would try the for motor control, as it is a STM32 with a 4x
[02:19:25] <pcw_home> 5ms/sec 12 bit A-Ds is cheaper that a A-D chip that does the same
[02:19:52] <Tom_itx> speaking of analog inputs... the saleae logic analizer now offers +-10v analog
[02:20:11] <Tom_itx> dunno if any of you use them
[02:21:28] <pcw_home> ack... after last change hm2_eth gives real time errors at startup at 2 KHz
[02:21:39] <jepler> pcw_home: uh oh
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[02:25:57] <jepler> pcw_home: so it tested OK after I added the arp pinning, and then tests bad after the iptables change?
[02:26:38] <pcw_home> well not sure its really bad and I dont have the filter installed
[02:27:05] <pcw_home> just different (no complaints before)
[02:27:50] <pcw_home> Yes the arp pinning was fine
[02:28:33] <pcw_home> how do I add that filter?
[02:28:36] <jepler> so at startup I imagine you're seeing:
[02:28:37] <jepler> Note: Using POSIX realtime
[02:28:39] <jepler> and
[02:28:40] <jepler> hm2_eth: WARNING: Unable to restrict other access to the hm2-eth device.
[02:28:44] <jepler> ?
[02:29:25] <pcw_home> Yes
[02:30:15] <jepler> hm
[02:30:23] <jepler> in that case, the stuff in the last commit shouldn't make any difference
[02:30:33] <pcw_home> hm2_eth: loading Mesa AnyIO HostMot2 ethernet driver version 0.2
[02:30:35] <pcw_home> Unexpected realtime delay on task 0
[02:30:36] <pcw_home> This Message will only display once per session.
[02:30:38] <pcw_home> Run the Latency Test and resolve before continuing.
[02:30:39] <pcw_home> hm2_eth: WARNING: Unable to restrict other access to the hm2-eth device.
[02:30:41] <pcw_home> This means that other software using the same network interface can violate
[02:30:42] <pcw_home> realtime guarantees. See hm2_eth(9) for more information.
[02:30:44] <pcw_home> hm2_eth: Hardware address: 00:60:1b:10:40:01
[02:31:03] <jepler> double hmm
[02:32:19] <jepler> well, what is new is that the setup code calls system()
[02:33:27] <jepler> maybe that turns out to be not OK
[02:35:45] <jepler> (but damnit it should be OK)
[02:40:02] <jepler> yes, I'm reproducing here that with period1=500000 and the latest change, there are frequently realtime delays at startup
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[02:50:35] <pcw_home> I didn't do lot of testing here but probably started about 10 times before the latest change
[02:50:37] <pcw_home> without realtime delay errors and now is seems to do it about 7 times out of 10
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[03:00:47] <skunkworks_> pcw_home: did you see running 7i80 and 5i25 at the same time? http://pastebin.com/YvyCzHXt
[03:02:53] <pcw_home> No, that must be the first time thats been tested :-)
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[03:06:06] <skunkworks_> it is magic
[03:08:47] <jepler> hm2/hm2_7i80.0: Watchdog has bit! (set the .has-bit pin to False to resume)
[03:08:56] <jepler> now I keep seeing this immediately on start
[03:10:40] <jepler> though .. I think it's bogus
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[03:23:54] <pcw_home> any bad read (bad alignment etc) might give the kind of an error
[03:23:55] <pcw_home> I think micges was going to add a cookie read to the end of the read packet as a sanity check
[03:24:13] <pcw_home> s/the kind/that kind/
[03:25:51] <jepler> this is actually an uninitialized memory read in the hal driver
[03:26:20] <pcw_home> Well thats not good...
[03:27:02] <pcw_home> I dont think I have seen that particular error
[03:28:26] <pcw_home> I think same had some of those in early testing (not sure if its the same cause or not)
[03:28:44] <pcw_home> s/same/Sam/
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[03:52:09] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master cf4f689 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/tram.c hostmot2: initialize new tram region to zero * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf4f689
[03:52:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master a8409d5 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/hm2_eth.c hm2-eth: system() is harmful to realtime priority * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8409d5
[03:52:30] <jepler> pcw_home: I'll read back tomorrow if you happen to test with those changes ^^
[03:52:42] <jepler> I was able to load 20 times at 2kHz and not see a realtime delay message
[04:13:54] <pcw_home> I'll try in a bit
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[04:29:19] <pcw_home> OK started about 20 times No problem Thanks!!
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[05:22:35] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 052.6 3133713 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/iotask/ioControl.cc Fix incorrect values on iocontrol.0.tool-prep-pocket * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=3133713
[05:22:35] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 052.6 781047f 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/iotask/ioControl_v2.cc Also make the same fixes in iov2 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=781047f
[05:22:35] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 052.6 7fdbfd9 06linuxcnc 10(66 files in 20 dirs) Remove incorrect execute permissions - thanks, lintian * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fdbfd9
[05:23:15] <seb_kuzminsky> that's the timeguy proposed branch, rebased onto origin/2.6, thanks cradek
[05:29:42] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: i looked at http://emergent.unpythonic.net/files/sandbox/0001-configure-optionally-skip-checks-for-runtime-depende.patch finally
[05:30:01] <seb_kuzminsky> i like the idea (a lot) but for master, not 2.6
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[06:09:41] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master 6b2ba98 06linuxcnc 10debian/control.in 10src/Makefile Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.6' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b2ba98
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[13:30:05] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: OK, I'll try to get it on master today
[13:31:13] <jepler> pcw_home: thanks for testing.
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[15:47:07] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: cool, thanks
[16:11:42] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master d5a8577 06linuxcnc 10debian/control.in 10src/Makefile 10src/configure.in configure: optionally skip checks for runtime dependencies * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5a8577
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[17:58:15] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master 0e8b4aa 06linuxcnc 10debian/rules.in package: don't test at compile-time for runtime deps * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e8b4aa
[17:58:17] <jepler> linuxcnc-build: sorry about that
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[20:11:18] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master 490c851 06linuxcnc 10debian/rules.in package: use same configure options in 'clean' target * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=490c851
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[20:50:17] <andypugh> I have a VM running buildbot 2.6
[20:50:38] <andypugh> I thought I would try put the lathe-fanucy config. It doesn’t work :-(
[20:51:44] <andypugh> “Could not open command file ../core_sim.hal”
[20:51:56] <andypugh> It looks like the place in the tree I put it was a bad choice.
[20:54:01] <andypugh> The new demo config layout seems to use unfamilar folder names too.
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[20:55:04] <andypugh> Should I move the config into sim/axis (from sim/ ) or make it a local copy of the config files used?
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[21:11:40] <jepler> andypugh: I agree, that config is broken.
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[21:12:32] <jepler> I think the use of "../" paths is not handled by the config picker's copy logic
[21:13:03] <jepler> but if the problem is simply needing another copy of core_sim.hal, src/Makefile is the place to edit to cause another copy to be made
[21:15:42] <andypugh> I think part of the problem is the new layout of copies of sample configs
[21:16:37] <andypugh> But the config would only ever have worked in a situation where a different sim-axis config had already been copied across
[21:17:39] <andypugh> I didn’t put the demo in sim-axis because it would “pollute” that folder with remap stuff. I didn’t put it in remap because it needed sim-axis stuff :-/
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[22:22:33] <jepler> andypugh: another option would be to make config picker's copy smarter, then
[22:29:22] <jepler> or move the file that needs duplication into common and arrange for it to be copied
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[23:44:06] <dgarr> andypugh: one way to conform to configs structure, pickconfig, and prior (remap) examples: http://www.pastebin.ca/2826231
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[23:45:31] <dgarr> there is some info in configs/maintainer.txt too
[23:53:15] <dgarr> also you can debug and/or see pickconfig copying in a rip by using export debug_pickconfig=1 in a terminal and then run linuxcnc