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[02:49:38] <jepler> it looks like g++ 4.8 (debian testing)'s memory requirements went up a bit; I can no longer comfortably build linuxcnc with -j5 in 2GB RAM
[02:49:53] <jepler> specifically the files that use boost::python take a half gig each
[02:50:55] <skunkworks_> I cannot to -j9 conistantly with 4gb.. it sometimes doesn't finish.. (and most everything else runs out of memory..)
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[02:53:33] <skunkworks_> chrome says - 'he's dead jim...' ;)
[02:55:58] <jepler> mine builds, but not without hitting swap
[02:57:09] * memfrob has 16GB and does not have these problems :P
[02:57:22] <memfrob> memory leaks.. i need a lot to compensate.
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[03:29:02] <mozmck1> maybe having 20GB is why I haven't noticed any problem building some large programs with -j9 :)
[03:29:35] <memfrob> why do you have to one-up me like that?.. :P
[03:30:04] <mozmck1> well, I didn't think of it that way :)
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[03:44:28] <memfrob> jepler, the idea behind the increased amount of memory during compiling seems to be decreasing the amount of memory when the application is running.
[03:45:16] <memfrob> i recall reading the release notes for GCC 4.9 i think it was, and they were able to get firefox to use less memory after compilation.
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[03:47:17] <memfrob> stricter compilation rules, changing the behavior of linking (especially LTO / link-time optimization) etc
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[15:53:10] <cradek> haha, the bike shed is well painted
[15:53:50] <cradek> I should have known better
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[16:06:19] <archivist> and which bike shed are you referring to
[16:08:55] <skunkworks__> that is a bit random.. expecially for cradek...
[16:09:36] <skunkworks__> Is it code? Is he in trouble?
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[16:21:54] <CaptHindsight> did he post to the wrong channel?
[16:23:04] <skunkworks__> It is a mystery...
[16:25:43] <CaptHindsight> has anyone tried Linuxcnc on the new Linux Mint releases yet? They are supposed to share the Ubuntu 14.04 packages
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[16:30:26] <pcw_home> comp shed I am guessing
[16:30:43] <mozmck1> not me, but I'm running Mint 16. too bad they don't have an easy upgrade path to 17.
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[16:37:04] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05cradek/renamecomp b2e5df3 06linuxcnc 10(10 files in 6 dirs) Rename comp to halcompile, to avoid several kinds of confusion * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2e5df3
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[16:37:46] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: if you don't want that in 2.6, I'll just do it in master
[16:40:34] <cradek> jepler: I would also appreciate your thoughts about renaming your baby
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[16:55:24] <linuxcnc-build_> build #327 of 1401.rip-wheezy-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1401.rip-wheezy-amd64/builds/327 blamelist: Chris Radek <chris@timeguy.com>
[16:55:57] <linuxcnc-build_> build #326 of 1400.rip-wheezy-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1400.rip-wheezy-i386/builds/326 blamelist: Chris Radek <chris@timeguy.com>
[17:00:11] <skunkworks__> heh
[17:01:07] <skunkworks__> compenstien
[17:01:25] <skunkworks__> comp-plex
[17:11:30] <linuxcnc-build_> build #2169 of 1300.rip-precise-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1300.rip-precise-i386/builds/2169 blamelist: Chris Radek <chris@timeguy.com>
[17:11:36] <linuxcnc-build_> build #2171 of 1306.rip-precise-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1306.rip-precise-amd64/builds/2171 blamelist: Chris Radek <chris@timeguy.com>
[17:13:10] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1373 of 1301.rip-precise-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1301.rip-precise-rtai-i386/builds/1373 blamelist: Chris Radek <chris@timeguy.com>
[17:13:41] <linuxcnc-build_> build #2171 of 1202.rip-lucid-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1202.rip-lucid-amd64/builds/2171 blamelist: Chris Radek <chris@timeguy.com>
[17:13:53] <linuxcnc-build_> build #2170 of 1200.rip-lucid-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1200.rip-lucid-i386/builds/2170 blamelist: Chris Radek <chris@timeguy.com>
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[17:17:05] <linuxcnc-build_> build #2172 of 1201.rip-lucid-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1201.rip-lucid-rtai-i386/builds/2172 blamelist: Chris Radek <chris@timeguy.com>
[17:17:06] <linuxcnc-build_> build #2173 of 0000.checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
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[17:20:12] <cradek> ouch
[17:24:43] <cradek> access(".git/objects/61/0f3a8876dbd60a414f5001bf532252d4497979", F_OK) = 0
[17:24:47] <cradek> access(".git/objects/54/09decefea7ba4b911cd946cfb147a453e693c1", F_OK) = 0
[17:24:50] <cradek> --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
[17:24:52] <cradek> wellll that's new
[17:27:33] <skunkworks__> what did you do!!!!
[17:27:48] <cradek> git suddenly became all crashy for me
[17:28:00] <cradek> I see memtest in my future
[17:28:05] <skunkworks__> as a side note - alinging the partition helped a ton
[17:28:14] <skunkworks__> yeck
[17:28:24] <skunkworks__> the computer is usable again
[17:29:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05cradek/renamecomp b9369c9 06linuxcnc 10tests/comp/test.sh 10tests/symbols.0/test.sh 10tests/symbols.1/test.sh 10tests/usercomp.0/test.sh Fix tests broken by renaming comp * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9369c9
[17:29:18] <cradek> fortunately I have more than one machine
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[17:46:38] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: let's put the bike shed in master
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[17:58:18] <skunkworks__> I had never heard of that saying before today
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[18:00:50] <cradek> bsd geeks all know about it, but it's a much wider effect
[18:05:47] <jepler> cradek: whatever .. I'll have to learn not to type "comp" anymore.
[18:06:20] <jepler> cradek: any way to make transition easier, like offering both names in 2.6 and then withdrawing the "comp" name in 2.7?
[18:07:03] <cradek> I'm sure that would be possible, but I don't think that makes the transition easier for anybody
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[18:26:56] <jepler> huh, (non-repeatable) failure in tests/interp/subroutine-return --
http://pastebin.com/22EXFWZD
[18:27:01] <jepler> cannot reopen file (null) - removed or renamed? (No such file or directory)
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[18:52:58] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05master a0613f0 06linuxcnc 10(14 files in 10 dirs) Rename comp to halcompile, to avoid several kinds of confusion * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0613f0
[18:54:36] <KGB-linuxcnc> 05cradek/renamecomp b9369c9 06linuxcnc 04. branch deleted * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9369c9
[18:56:11] <cradek> haha comp-plex
[18:56:24] <cradek> comp-eat
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[19:03:13] <KimK> CaptHindsight: I am getting started with Mint 17, I hope to try LinuxCNC on it later and see what happens.
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[19:07:57] <CaptHindsight> KimK: memleak built and preempt_rt kernel v3.12.22-rt34
http://dpaste.com/22CPR57 that ran ~30uS
[19:08:17] <CaptHindsight> you can try that new kernel as well
[19:09:50] <CaptHindsight> I have the 3.4.55 RTAI running on Ubuntu 14.04 but not Linuxcnc yet
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[19:19:10] <KimK> CaptHindsight: Sounds great, thanks. I decided I was done putting up with Ubuntu's and Gnome's shenanigans. Plus I think I'm going to like Cinnamon way better than trying to run Gnome 3 in classic mode. Mint has been beating Ubuntu soundly in the Distrowatch poll (currently 3,521 to 2,193)
http://distrowatch.com/ and Mint 17 is the LTS version, so, great, I'm going to try to switch. We'll see if I encounter any problems.
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[19:20:31] <KimK> Hopefully not since Mint 17 is based on Ubuntu 14.04, but you never know what might pop up.
[19:21:10] <mozmck1> I like Cinnamon pretty well.
[19:22:00] <KimK> Hi mozmck1 , thanks, good to know.
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[19:26:10] <KimK> I started to fiddle with the panel settings in 17 to try to get two taskbars that look like 10.04 (I'm used to 10.04, and I have a lot of widgets on the upper "empty" taskbar) but I had to quit, I'll get back to it later. Any advice appreciated, if someone has already done that.
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[19:30:26] <KimK> And I'm not fanatical about it, if it ends up looking a little different from 10.04, I can live with that.
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[19:36:40] <mozmck1> KimK: in Panel Settings, there is a "Panel Layout" at the top.
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[20:49:08] <CaptHindsight> KimK: I got tired of Ubuntu back around v8. I'm trying to get multitouch working well on some desktop and I'm wondering about linuxcnc conflicts with the Ubuntu 14.04 packages
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