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[00:00:04] <micges-dev> s.poll is called every preview redraw
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[00:10:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/separate-touchoff-buttons 61e8475 06linuxcnc 10share/axis/tcl/axis.tcl 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py axis: separate buttons for system, tool touchoff * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=61e8475
[00:10:08] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05dgarr/separate-touchoff-buttons 46a7ce2 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py Remove the error-prone way of doing tool touch off * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=46a7ce2
[00:10:08] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05dgarr/separate-touchoff-buttons 5267409 06linuxcnc 10share/axis/tcl/axis.tcl 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py Add keyboard shortcut, tooltip, and quickref documentation for tool touchoff * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5267409
[00:10:27] <cradek> here are the additions I suggest
[00:10:39] <cradek> dgarr: for your consideration
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[00:19:12] <cradek> I'm not sure that's the best keyboard shortcut, but there oughta be one...
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[01:54:32] <pcw_home> seb_kuzminsky: Thanks a lot for reminding me about Richard Acosta
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[02:18:13] <skunkworks_> he the one that went to mach...
[02:18:19] <skunkworks_> drove him to it...
[02:26:26] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
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[11:05:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Michael Geszkiewicz 05araisrobo-scurve2 3c885cf 06linuxcnc 10(15 files in 5 dirs) First part of limited jerk support * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c885cf
[11:05:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Michael Geszkiewicz 05araisrobo-scurve2 448e247 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/kinematics/tc.h 10src/emc/kinematics/tp.c Limited jerk support: implement the S-Curve Acceleration with FSM in trajectory planner * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=448e247
[11:05:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Michael Geszkiewicz 05araisrobo-scurve2 3999dcc 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/task/emccanon.cc canon: calculate jerk for each move using per axis max values from inifile * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=3999dcc
[11:05:50] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Michael Geszkiewicz 05araisrobo-scurve2 ddc3bbe 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/axis/axis_mm.ini config: add jerk parameter to sim/axis_mm * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ddc3bbe
[11:06:04] <micges> skunkworks: ^^
[11:06:11] <skunkworks> ooh
[11:06:32] <micges> you can try it but only lines are working atm
[11:06:37] <skunkworks> ok
[11:07:59] <micges> skunkworks: and please not use any hardware atm :) I'll test it on small mill at end of week
[11:08:34] <micges> bbl
[11:09:21] <skunkworks> I won't.. :) I will just run it through my test configs that give max vel/acc
[11:09:56] <skunkworks> is there an example ini file?
[11:10:39] <skunkworks> ah - see it
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[11:55:00] <skunkworks> pretty... http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/jerk/Neat.png
[11:55:05] <skunkworks> but...
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[11:55:18] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/jerk/DangerDanger.png
[11:55:45] <skunkworks> that is set to 20in/s^2 and 2.2in/s 200 jerk
[11:56:17] <skunkworks> Jogging doesn't do jerk limited moves..
[12:19:05] <mozmck> skunkworks: maybe it's because of the first line in your MDI history there in DangerDanger.png :)
[12:19:41] <skunkworks> heh
[12:19:50] <skunkworks> paste buffers are evil
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[12:26:35] <skunkworks> seems to be a consistant failure mode?
[12:26:36] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/jerk/Screenshot%20from%202014-06-11%2007:25:20.png
[12:30:50] <skunkworks> and the velocity redout never gets above to 1
[12:30:55] <skunkworks> readout
[12:32:48] <skunkworks> kinda looks like it is exact stopping
[12:34:48] <skunkworks> yes - it seems like the velocity goes to 0 at each end point
[12:35:33] <skunkworks> suprising how hard that is to see from the backplot
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[12:49:03] <skunkworks_> yes - pretty sure it is stopping at every end point http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/jerk/Screenshot%20from%202014-06-11%2007:47:32.png
[12:50:28] <skunkworks_> ^that was also setting jerk from 200 to 1000
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[12:55:40] <cradek> this looks similar to what I saw in 4/2012: http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/ja3-jerklimit2.png
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[12:57:39] <cradek> my thoughts from that time: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.devel/6364/focus=6367
[13:04:28] <skunkworks_> wow - I am not even testing for jerk... (have to add that to the panel..)
[13:04:53] <skunkworks_> but there are sure acc violations as is.
[13:05:36] <cradek> micges: we found some problems in ja4 when there are nonconsecutive axes. I was unable to get it to even start up on a lathe config (two axes XZ, two joints) and sam's machine (XYZB) would start but would not run gcode, giving errors about A being out of limits
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[13:10:33] <skunkworks_> it actually would be neet to see jerk with the current/new planner
[13:11:12] <cradek> yep, it would
[13:12:13] <skunkworks_> never thought of that.. (just another derivative.)
[13:12:36] <cradek> yeah
[13:12:47] <cradek> each one gets muuuuuch harder than the last
[13:17:13] <skunkworks> to constrain? I bet
[13:18:00] <skunkworks> there was only a few times when rob was re-writing the TP that the velocity was violated.. Lots of acc issues though..
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[13:19:55] <cradek> the sonja planner uses sine profiles, so ALL further derivatives are automatically constrained
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[13:28:43] <skunkworks> sonja?
[13:30:01] <skunkworks> ah - google found it
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[13:55:04] <skunkworks_> a single move looks right...
[13:55:05] <skunkworks_> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/jerk/Neat.png
[14:03:14] <cradek> cool
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[14:21:52] <skunkworks_> but multible lines... not so much.. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/jerk/Screenshot%20from%202014-06-11%2009:20:45.png
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[14:31:26] <pcw_home> is that going bad where it changes directions?
[14:36:42] <skunkworks> line end points it seems
[14:37:03] <pcw_home> is the exact stop mode?
[14:37:08] <pcw_home> is this
[14:37:30] <skunkworks> it seems to be - but shouldn't.. (I am running G64)
[14:37:44] <skunkworks> maybe blending is broken with s-curve
[14:37:52] <pcw_home> i wonder if exact stop mode woudl be any different
[14:37:57] <skunkworks> or I am doing something wrong
[14:38:05] <skunkworks> hmm
[14:38:10] <skunkworks> easy enough to test
[14:40:39] <skunkworks_> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/jerk/Screenshot%20from%202014-06-11%2009:39:29.png
[14:40:40] <skunkworks_> eh
[14:40:47] <skunkworks_> still not quite right..
[14:41:02] <skunkworks_> but uses full acceleration...
[14:41:24] <skunkworks_> (like the current planner in exact stop mode)
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[14:46:22] <pcw_home> looks like a math error followed by forcing the endpoint to be correct
[14:46:48] <skunkworks> I think very similar to what cradek was seeing a while ago
[14:48:20] <pcw_home> Ahh the velocity is offset up a bit
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[14:50:21] <pcw_home> so it comes to s stop but the beginning of the next segment starts off the wrong way?
[14:51:53] <skunkworks> odd
[14:53:14] <pcw_home> assuming the red dotted line is 0 velocity
[14:55:51] <jepler> no, that's the trigger line
[14:56:05] <skunkworks_> zero is below that
[14:56:07] <jepler> the red baseline of velocity is probably the same as the other baselines; you end up seeing the green one because it's drawn last
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[15:03:09] <micges> skunkworks: cradek: thanks for feedback
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[15:04:50] <micges> cradek: I'll look into ja4 in a moment
[15:04:53] <pcw_home> looks like accel and velocity dont get to 0 at the same time
[15:05:34] <micges> yeah but apparently on higher jerk values only
[15:05:36] <cradek> satisfying the final condition of jerk=accel=vel=0 and position=desired is what makes it all hard
[15:05:48] <pcw_home> Sure
[15:07:28] <skunkworks_> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/jerk/Screenshot%20from%202014-06-11%2010:00:27.png
[15:07:46] <skunkworks_> micges: I see it with low jerk limits also
[15:07:59] <skunkworks_> micges: is blending supposed to work?
[15:08:51] <micges-dev> I didn't touched it but I think it's disabled
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[15:16:14] <micges-dev> skunkworks_: spike was on any specific gcode?
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[15:18:40] <skunkworks_> You can really see it running 3d_chips.. I could strip out a section of gcode..
[15:21:48] <micges-dev> ok
[15:22:33] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Robert W. Ellenberg 05circular-blend-arc-rc4 c0e447c 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/tp/tp.c 10tests/trajectory-planner/circular-arcs/nc_files/spindle/g33_simple.ngc Fix for F-word limit in position sync * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0e447c
[15:23:50] <Tom_itx> what happened to rob's TP? are you going with another version now?
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[15:28:52] <skunkworks_> speak of the devil?
[15:28:55] <skunkworks_> :)
[15:29:01] <skunkworks_> 3d chips - with jerk set to 1000 (and even 200...) violates acc all over
[15:29:03] <Tom_itx> devel
[15:29:19] <Tom_itx> skunkworks, are you working with a different TP now instead of robs?
[15:29:36] <skunkworks_> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/jerk/Screenshot%20from%202014-06-11%2010:22:25.png
[15:30:08] <skunkworks_> micges-dev: ^ you can see all the spikes - should be less than 20in/s^2
[15:30:27] <skunkworks_> most are over 50
[15:30:54] <skunkworks_> Tom_itx: just playing around with s-curve acc that micges has been working on
[15:31:25] <skunkworks_> robs planner in its current state is pretty darn solid. We ran it on the K&T this weekend - pretty cool.
[15:31:38] <Tom_itx> good to hear
[15:31:50] <skunkworks_> we found a little bug with threading - he just posted a fix :)
[15:32:55] <skunkworks_> could feel it in the floor...
[15:33:11] <skunkworks_> (partly because of the .0003" backlash in z)
[15:33:14] <Tom_itx> good it wasn't a big bug then :)
[15:34:08] <skunkworks_> well - you could work around it.. (setting the feed to something very high during spindle synced motion
[15:34:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 05dgarr/separate-touchoff-buttons 5267409 06linuxcnc 04. branch deleted * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5267409
[15:35:31] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05master 7897231 06linuxcnc Merge branch '2.6' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=7897231
[15:35:31] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05master 752d6a0 06linuxcnc 10share/axis/tcl/axis.tcl 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py axis: separate buttons for system, tool touchoff * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=752d6a0
[15:35:31] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05master 43e5cbe 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py Remove the error-prone way of doing tool touch off * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=43e5cbe
[15:35:33] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05master 5dea513 06linuxcnc 10share/axis/tcl/axis.tcl 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py Add keyboard shortcut, tooltip, and quickref documentation for tool touchoff * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5dea513
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[15:41:19] <CaptHindsight> is the new planner just in master?
[15:41:32] <skunkworks_> not quite yet...
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[15:43:12] <CaptHindsight> is this the best way to change linuxcnc repos? apt-get remove --purge linuxcnc then modify the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/linuxcnc-buildbot.list ?
[15:43:22] <skunkworks_> hoping to put ja4 and the new planner together - but ja4 has a few issues.
[15:45:11] <skunkworks_> I don't know
[15:45:30] <CaptHindsight> don't want to wreck a current install :)
[15:45:54] <skunkworks_> rip?
[15:46:15] <CaptHindsight> oh i have one in virtualbox for this very reason, nevermind
[15:49:57] <seb_kuzminsky> CaptHindsight: if you want to change where your debs come from, the recipe you posted is right
[15:52:20] <CaptHindsight> I have everything behaving pretty well in Precise with Unity including the touchscreen, now to try getting multitouch going
[15:54:16] <CaptHindsight> 14.04 has smoother touch operation
[15:54:55] <CaptHindsight> what does linuxcnc need to work in 14,04? I heard there was some Tcl changes needed
[15:55:09] <cradek> CaptHindsight: do you get an error?
[15:56:09] <CaptHindsight> I haven't tried to install Linuxcnc it on 14.04 yet, only got as far as the 3.4.55 RTAI kernel that work fine
[15:56:20] <micges-dev> skunkworks_: ok I got spikes also
[15:57:22] <CaptHindsight> brb, can't spell/write coherently yet today, more caffeine required
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[15:59:05] <seb_kuzminsky> CaptHindsight: i think if the 3.4.55 rtai kernel works with Trusty, linuxcnc should run fine there
[15:59:47] <seb_kuzminsky> we don't yet have a Trusty buildslave, so it's not getting tested except when humans try it, so my confidence that there are 0 bugs/quirks is low
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[16:00:37] <CaptHindsight> I just want to try and get a physical keyboard and mouse free system running
[16:03:10] <CaptHindsight> new 19-23" cap touch LCD's are starting <$200 now
[16:10:39] <CaptHindsight> unfortunately all the touchscreen support or screen keyboards in Debian, Mint or non-Unity Ubuntu doesn't work nearly as well as in Unity :(
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[16:27:12] <skunkworks_> rtai works with 14.04? I should try
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[16:34:03] <CaptHindsight> no crashes or panics
[16:34:19] <CaptHindsight> didn't have linuxcnc to test on it
[16:34:41] <seb_kuzminsky> does 14.04 ship with linux 3.13 normally?
[16:35:42] <pcw_home> I think so (it is new enough to support Baytrail so thats 3.12 or > )
[16:36:23] <seb_kuzminsky> the newest kernel that rtai supports is 3.10
[16:36:55] <CaptHindsight> almost supports
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[16:38:50] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm
[16:38:54] <CaptHindsight> the scheduler in RTAI is still broken
[16:39:12] <seb_kuzminsky> i guess what i meant was, the newest kernel that shabby's rtai repo has a kernel patch for is 3.10 ;-)
[16:39:18] <CaptHindsight> memleak just checked the other day
[16:40:08] <CaptHindsight> and I don't think that 3.10 is stable
[16:40:24] <CaptHindsight> coin toss
[16:41:34] <CaptHindsight> shabby refactored the tree as well and lost the history
[16:42:35] <CaptHindsight> so the 3.4.55 RTAI is the latest stable and memleak can't reproduce it
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[16:43:35] <CaptHindsight> so preempt_rt or xenomai for the time being until this all gets sorted out
[16:43:51] <CaptHindsight> for anything above 3.4
[16:44:31] <seb_kuzminsky> how about the 3.4.87 patch that's in shabby's repo? is that good? or do i need to fall back to the 3.4.55 patch (that's no longer in shabby's master)?
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[16:44:54] <CaptHindsight> I'll ask him later to be sure
[16:46:29] <seb_kuzminsky> thx
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[17:16:56] <CaptHindsight> seb_kuzminsky: memleak says: all the RTAI kernel patches are fine, but all the RTAI source is broken for the things that go into /user/realtime
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[17:19:28] <CaptHindsight> Linuxcnc is stuck at 3.4, 3.5 and 3.8.13 until /proc changes are made in linuxcnc, but user space will still be broken
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[17:20:32] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm, ok thanks
[17:23:39] <CaptHindsight> the RTAI scheduler is broken, but one trivial fix is in isocpu you need to leave the last cpu core out of the list
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[17:24:50] <CaptHindsight> for example isolcpus=1,2,3 for a 4 core and it should work or a single core cpu should work fine
[17:25:30] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, i'll keep an eye out for that
[17:25:48] <CaptHindsight> but latency is still higher than it used to be
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[17:26:09] <seb_kuzminsky> i think cpus are numbered from 0, so isolcpus=1,2,3 omits the first (cpu 0) not the last (cpu 3)
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[17:29:08] <CaptHindsight> seb_kuzminsky: https://github.com/ShabbyX/RTAI/tree/linuxcnc-old this might be the only working RTAI branch, and it might be the same tree you used for the RTAI debs
[17:31:41] <seb_kuzminsky> my old rtai debs are of RTAI commit a0dc5355ee233032926dd23d1e132ef1befbbd76, which is only in a branch called "old-master"
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[17:34:25] <CaptHindsight> the problem with "old-master" is that it's actually not the old master, Shabbyx refactored it and lost the original "old-master"
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[17:38:13] <CaptHindsight> seb_kuzminsky: are you using that specific commit?
[17:38:41] <CaptHindsight> if that is the same then it's not lost
[17:42:38] <CaptHindsight> Linuxcnc needs to fix /proc in order for any 3.10 or newer RTAI kernels to work
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[17:44:00] <CaptHindsight> all the new RTAI rewritten math support doesn't work with Linuxcnc
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[17:45:57] <CaptHindsight> Kconfig for RTAI has new math options, which are incompatible with Linuxcnc (uclibc, newlib and glibc options)
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[17:46:15] <CaptHindsight> none work with linuxcnc
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[17:48:09] <CaptHindsight> that's the latest RTAI news for today, good day!
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[17:59:48] <skunkworks> minor details...
[17:59:54] <skunkworks> smop!
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[18:51:21] <cradek> jepler: did you keep track of the pickconfig dancing fix?
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[18:55:34] <skunkworks_> cradek: testing in sim - threading seems to work
[18:55:48] <cradek> yay!
[18:56:07] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks for the update CaptHindsight
[18:57:38] <seb_kuzminsky> should we ban aram from emc-users? this is getting ridiculous
[18:58:16] <cradek> nahhh
[18:58:25] <cradek> it'll solve itself
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[19:03:40] <cradek> he's just whining now. if people would stop responding, the thread would stop.
[19:04:28] <archivist> has he got the record for number of emails in a thread
[19:04:48] <cradek> that's a little hard to figure out
[19:04:54] <cradek> frankly I doubt it :-)
[19:05:45] <cradek> I feel bad for the people who genuinely try to help him
[19:06:35] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, the sink of peoples' helpfulness-effort is the tragic part here
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[19:10:26] <skunkworks_> cradek: how hard would it be to put cab4 in master without ja4 - then ja4 on top when it is better
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[19:11:58] <cradek> it would be a little extra work to do them separately, but mostly the work I did modifying ja4 to work on top of cba4 is already done and could still be used later
[19:12:16] <skunkworks_> I don't see the pause in sim that we may have been seeing on the emco (stopping and starting the spindle)
[19:12:18] <cradek> if I had put them in the other order, it would have been worse, so yay me
[19:12:36] <skunkworks_> heh
[19:12:38] <cradek> yeah I suspect that was a problem with the interpolated software encoder thing
[19:12:45] <skunkworks_> oh - that could be
[19:12:57] <cradek> I don't trust that yet, having never messed with it
[19:12:59] <seb_kuzminsky> yay for git and stacked feature branches
[19:13:10] <skunkworks_> does interpolated maybe need the index?
[19:13:11] <seb_kuzminsky> (and cradek's foresight)
[19:13:38] <cradek> should I put cba4 on master now/soon?
[19:13:45] <skunkworks_> I could see random pauses then depending on how far away the index was...
[19:14:19] * skunkworks_ says very very quietly.... 'yes'
[19:14:20] <cradek> skunkworks_: interpolated does still use the index. I think the basic setup is to hook your sensor to both A and Z.
[19:14:35] <archivist> interpolated always gives me the jitters because it cannot follow a speed change till the next edge
[19:14:57] <skunkworks_> I was using it even though I have 100 count single channel encoder...
[19:15:09] <skunkworks_> I should just try it without it
[19:15:21] <cradek> yeah I bet it works better without
[19:15:26] <cradek> you have 100 counts and index?
[19:15:29] <skunkworks_> yes
[19:15:37] <skunkworks_> remember turning the spindle by hand?
[19:15:38] <cradek> that'll work perfectly great
[19:15:41] <cradek> right
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[20:00:54] <cradek> hm, having some trouble rebasing cba4 onto today's master, because of the rapid-override changes
[20:01:11] <cradek> the velocity during the blend arc seems wrong, so I am missing something
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[20:49:54] <cradek> woo
[20:52:27] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05cradek/cba5 d699a06 06linuxcnc New branch with 414 commits pushed, 10161 files changed, 03224008(+), 043400(-) since master/5dea513
[20:53:40] <cradek> skunkworks_: this is an updated version of cba4 on top of current master (rapid override support is the important change)
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[20:54:19] <cradek> the sooner we merge cba the sooner I can stop doing these :-P
[20:54:24] <skunkworks_> heh
[20:54:41] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
[20:54:42] <skunkworks_> I will run it through the motions
[20:54:48] <cradek> this has RE's latest fix for spindle-sync
[20:55:08] <cradek> thanks! please do test the overrides too.
[20:55:13] <cradek> I sure appreciate you.
[20:55:15] <seb_kuzminsky> are there any known bugs with cba5?
[20:55:25] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: it's only existed for 3 minutes
[20:55:30] <skunkworks_> not at the moment...
[20:55:30] <seb_kuzminsky> well yes but
[20:55:36] <cradek> I don't know of any remaining bugs on cba4
[20:55:39] <seb_kuzminsky> are there any known bugs with cba4, how about that?
[20:55:43] <seb_kuzminsky> great!
[20:55:52] <cradek> we just found the one, and he already fixed it
[20:56:23] <jepler> >> checking libgl1-mesa-dri workaround... test for libgl1-mesa-dri workaround failed, please file a bug
[20:56:35] <jepler> this can fail ^^ when $TMPDIR does not allow executable files
[20:56:42] <jepler> this will apparently become a common hardening thing
[20:56:50] <cradek> ugh
[20:56:50] <seb_kuzminsky> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCadcBR95oU
[20:57:11] <jepler> > checking libgl1-mesa-dri workaround... required - need to preload make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/tmp.y1MRHAMotO'
[20:57:24] <jepler> apparently any output at all from the script screws everything up.
[20:57:26] <jepler> grgrgnr
[20:57:34] <jepler> why couldn't this be written as an actual configure test anyway?
[20:57:38] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: which platform are you on?
[20:57:45] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: debian 7, but with TMPDIR=/dev/shm
[20:57:52] <seb_kuzminsky> huh
[20:58:00] <cradek> doctor, doctor!
[20:58:58] <cradek> (is that test still needed?)
[20:59:10] <jepler> I don't recall which platforms required the workaround
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[21:00:26] <skunkworks_> is seb saying 'push it' :)
[21:01:14] <cradek> skunkworks_: if you find I didn't screw it up between cba4 and cba5, I think we should do it
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[21:02:49] <cradek> then I think I can rebase the appropriate parts of ja4-onto-cba4 atop the brave-new-world-master
[21:04:13] <jepler> as for the "linuxcnc status keeps scrolling" bug, so far I think I see that it *does not occur* when no logical line of text is split over fewer than 3 lines
[21:04:25] <cradek> whoah
[21:04:29] <jepler> I suspect it's a tkinter regression, though it could be that bumping the number of analog ins/outs contributed to it
[21:04:41] <cradek> does that mean making the window wider fixes it?
[21:04:47] <jepler> but so far, if I size my window wide enough that ain and aout only occupy two lines each, I don't see the scrolling behavior
[21:05:12] <cradek> fwiw, I've seen the behavior for years
[21:05:23] <cradek> possibly, years and years
[21:05:24] <jepler> huh
[21:05:27] <jepler> I didn't remember ever seeing it
[21:05:41] <cradek> maybe mwm window decorations cause it
[21:05:58] <cradek> or focus-follows-mouse
[21:06:39] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: would you please use words instead of youtube links to express your feelings about cba5?
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[21:07:47] <jepler> on the other hand, when I only reposition but do not change the text contents, it doesn't walk away
[21:13:13] <seb_kuzminsky> sure
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[21:13:14] <seb_kuzminsky> push it
[21:13:16] <seb_kuzminsky> ;-)
[21:16:20] <CaptHindsight> looking for planner testers on actual hardware yet?
[21:16:35] <cradek> by all means, have at it
[21:16:50] <CaptHindsight> I saw skunkworks_ trainer video
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[21:25:02] <skunkworks_> ran it on the k&t this weekend also
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[21:27:49] <skunkworks_> real 4m25.322s
[21:27:50] <skunkworks_> user 21m3.469s
[21:27:52] <skunkworks_> sys 3m5.403s
[21:28:12] <seb_kuzminsky> you dont say
[21:28:30] <skunkworks_> make'ing cba5
[21:28:49] <seb_kuzminsky> ah
[21:28:54] <skunkworks_> on my ancient i7
[21:29:15] <jepler> http://emergent.unpythonic.net/files/sandbox/0002-linuxcnctop-fix-the-crawling-scrollbar-in-many-cases.patch
[21:29:19] <jepler> cradek: ^^^ if you wanna test
[21:29:23] <jepler> are i7s old enough to be ancient
[21:29:23] <jepler> ?
[21:29:36] <seb_kuzminsky> time flies i guess
[21:30:52] <skunkworks_> I bought it as a referb in 2010..
[21:31:26] <skunkworks_> in 2010 it took less than 1 minute...
[21:31:30] <skunkworks_> to compile
[21:32:25] <seb_kuzminsky> there's a huge increase in resources-needed-to-build between 2.5 and 2.6/master, due to the python interpreter mostly i think
[21:36:55] <jepler> yeah, boost::python is a resource hog
[21:37:06] <jepler> I am quite confident I was right not to choose it when I wanted to expose NML to Python
[21:37:47] <jepler> oh well, I don't suppose we're likely to ditch it as a prereq now
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[21:39:11] <skunkworks_> cradek: inital testing looks good
[21:39:14] <skunkworks_> initial
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[21:43:48] <skunkworks_> does this help? sort of a copy and paste from robs posts on the forum http://pastebin.ca/2765738
[21:47:12] <cradek> skunkworks_: it could help in picking the appropriate default settings. maybe some of it should be added to the docs too.
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[21:49:06] <cradek> jepler: that patch fixes it for me
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[21:59:24] <skunkworks_> cradek: that is what I was hoping
[21:59:32] <skunkworks_> but I don't edit very well
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[22:48:43] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05v2.5_branch da8f301 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/linuxcnctop.py linuxcnctop: fix the crawling scrollbar in many cases * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=da8f301
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[22:57:27] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 052.6 f639c08 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/linuxcnctop.py Merge branch 'v2.5_branch' into 2.6 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=f639c08
[22:57:27] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.6 004e784 06linuxcnc 10tcl/bin/pickconfig.tcl pickconfig: speed automatic closing of other branches * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=004e784
[22:57:33] <cradek> wfm...
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[23:15:01] <skunkworks_> ?
[23:15:55] <cradek> the last one fixes the thing where after pickconfig starts, it changes stuff around for a second or two
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[23:23:31] <skunkworks_> nice!
[23:23:41] <skunkworks_> now you have to merge again?
[23:24:55] <skunkworks_> cradek: everythng looks good.. I will run some programs overnight - but I think I would have seen something by now
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[23:30:47] <cradek> I just went over my changes again very carefully - I am sure cba4->cba5 is right
[23:30:56] <cradek> let's go for it
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[23:35:23] <cradek> running the tests once more...
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[23:45:22] <cradek> Runtest: 140 tests run, 140 successful, 0 failed + 0 expected
[23:45:32] <KGB-linuxcnc> 05cradek/cba5 d699a06 06linuxcnc 04. branch deleted * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d699a06
[23:55:56] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05master d699a06 06linuxcnc 414 commits pushed, 10161 files changed, 03224008(+), 043400(-)
[23:56:08] <cradek> !!
[23:57:21] <mozmck> that generated some commit emails!
[23:58:47] <CaptHindsight> I just installed the 3.4.55 RTAI in Ubuntu 14.04 again and it works
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