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[01:28:09] <kwallace> dgarr: I made the halscope -i change and it seems to work.
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[01:37:05] <pcw_home> I've noticed that halscope forgets it config file rather frequently, Is this a known bug?
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[02:26:00] <kwallace> pcw_home: I think my problem was that halscope doesn't autosave unless one closes halscope with a X or quit. Just killing it seems to clobber the autosave file. A wild guess may be that scope opens the autosave file and leaves it open until scope closes. If something funky happens, it clobbers the open file.
[02:27:14] <kwallace> Using the '-i my.halscope' option works.
[02:36:06] <kwallace> CaptHindsight: The BIP373 works just as advertised - nearly naked, only wearing 330 Ohm resistor on the base pin. I hooked the resistor to a parport pin and it work fairly well, but may need a buffer chip or pull up resistor since parports usually don't source very well. The next step is to wire up a gear tooth sensor and disk on an engine.
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[18:41:58] <PCW> Spent a number of hours playing around with homing to index and dont see any issues (at least with master)
[18:42:00] <PCW> Todd has something strange going on though in that the count clearing seems one cycle late compared to mine:
[18:42:02] <PCW> freeby.mesanet.com/home-index.png
[18:42:03] <PCW> (his FB and cmd positions are cleared on cycle late)
[18:42:18] <PCW> one cycle
[18:45:25] <cradek> well that would sure do it
[18:46:06] <cradek> seems like his servo thread must be ordered wrong?
[18:46:40] <PCW> It looks right but I probably missed something
[18:47:20] <PCW> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/10-advanced-configuration/27806-linear-scale-correction-homing-to-index
[18:47:22] <PCW> is the thread
[18:48:54] <cradek> dabit = todd?
[18:49:15] <PCW> No Dabit started the thread
[18:49:47] <PCW> DAbit has the dual feedback system
[18:50:16] <PCW> Todd just chimed in to mention he had home-to-index thumps
[18:50:33] <PCW> or has I should say
[18:50:33] <cradek> oh I looked at that dig4w zip already
[18:50:45] <cradek> I agree the threads are in the right order in that particular zip
[18:50:55] <PCW> yes seem to be
[18:51:24] <cradek> perhaps the zip doesn't correspond
[18:51:42] <PCW> thats a possibility
[18:54:00] <cradek> man I hate web forums
[18:54:17] <cradek> can't I click somewhere and get an unmangled copy of his halscope plots?
[18:54:53] <PCW> he must have use JPEG or something
[18:55:01] <cradek> they're pngs
[18:55:06] <cradek> but something mangled them horribly
[18:56:31] <cradek> I guess I can see enough in the first one to see the position step is late
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[18:56:45] <PCW> Yeah maybe high compression
[18:57:04] <PCW> so the PID masking fails
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[18:57:11] <cradek> don't axis.0.encoder-pos-fb and axis.0.index-enable both come directly from hm2? how could they be read at different times?
[18:58:05] <cradek> don't axis.0.motor-pos-fb and axis.0.index-enable both come directly from hm2? how could they be read at different times?
[18:59:49] <cradek> yes in Dig4w they both come directly from hm2_5i25.0.xxx
[19:00:04] <cradek> it must be a hm2 problem if they don't happen together
[19:00:14] <PCW> Yes they certainly should (all in the hm2 read)
[19:00:22] <cradek> did you test with a 5i25 with his same firmware?
[19:00:54] <cradek> I can't imagine how it can be wrong but it must be - seems like it can not be a thread ordering problem
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[19:01:43] <PCW> I'm using a 5i24 because its more convenient (encoder firmware has been the same for many years)
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[19:03:13] <PCW> I'm not sure the hardware can do this but a driver bug might
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[19:04:15] <cradek> he says he gets it even in 2.5.4
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[19:11:32] <cradek> I'm pretty useless looking for it in encoder.c
[19:12:48] <PCW> yeah its not simple
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[19:15:51] <cradek> do you think his report of "always X and sometimes Y" is accurate, or do you think it's just the differences in initial positioning?
[19:16:35] <PCW> I suspect its just how big the step is (so initial position)
[19:17:12] <cradek> he could test that, if he understands the initial position issue
[19:17:29] <cradek> if it really is only some axes that would be very interesting
[19:18:00] <cradek> and weird
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[19:19:23] <PCW> Yeah Let me try a 5i25/7I77 to narrow this down
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[20:02:36] <PCW> hmm they all change at the same time for me with 5i25/7i77
[20:02:46] <PCW> (and 2.5.0)
[20:04:40] <cradek> what could he possibly be doing differently
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[20:07:41] <PCW> fairly mysterious
[20:08:26] <PCW> let me update to 2.5.4 and try that
[20:08:59] <PCW> (the live CD seems to be 2.5.0)
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[20:29:53] <PCW> ok 5i25/7i77 ok with linuxcnc 2.5.0, 2.5.4, 2.7-pre0
[20:29:54] <PCW> OK meaning index enable falling edge happens at the same time as counter clear
[20:31:28] <cradek> so the plot thickens
[20:31:46] <PCW> the plot sickens
[20:32:33] <cradek> he's in ohio - too far for either of us
[20:34:04] <cradek> you could ask him to plot the hm2_ encoder pins directly. it would be impossible for any hal config problems to affect that result, even if he's misreported everything and sent us unrelated hal files
[20:35:09] <cradek> I think
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[20:41:32] <PCW> Yeah that sounds like a good next test
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[21:02:12] <kwallace1> Has anyone done any work on getting G76 to do tapered threads? I could add another flag to the C code in interp_convert, or I could start fresh with a remap in Python or O. The Fanuc code is different that LCNC code. Anything else I should consider?
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