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[02:19:09] <cradek> cmorley: how are the fixes for 2.5.4 coming?
[02:28:20] <memleak> Hello everyone! After extensive testing (a few weeks) on "real" hardware (parallel port steppers) it has come to my attention that PREEMPT_RT is still not ready for production use so i will be returning back to RTAI development. unexpected real-time delays and unexplained issues are occurring.
[02:29:09] <memleak> because of this, i was wondering if i made a gentoo linuxcnc live cd that anyone could pop into their machine and download the required XML files to /lib/firmware if anyone here would be interested in testing.
[02:30:27] <memleak> i have talked about the linuxcnc gentoo livecd for awhile and i will be finishing it up soon but mainly i will be testing simulator / not-motor connected scenarios.
[02:31:06] <memleak> does anyone here have a secondary system to tinker with and hook a few motors up to the gentoo live cd?
[02:31:58] <memleak> i can always get simulator working just fine but it's when i connect motors i run into issues but i personally do not always have access to such servos / steppers.
[02:33:51] <memleak> the installer would take some time to write up, and at this rate i think it would be best to make sure it works with motors first before writing an installer, unless of course someone here believes running a machine off a live cd is a terrible idea due to reduced I/O speed
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[02:38:47] <memleak> the only fear is to write an installer for a live cd if once it's installed, it wouldn't work on real, non-sim hardware. i think it would speed up the development process a lot of we could get some testers and im hoping that someone here was able to control a motor over a mesa FPGA card using the livecd without installation?
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[03:01:45] <MrHindsight> http://sourceforge.net/p/emc/mailman/emc-developers/thread/1555f3a94ca69062a1309c61d0ed5a22%40mail.swcp.com/#msg32044821
[03:02:31] <MrHindsight> http://gentoocnc.sourceforge.net/
[03:02:54] <MrHindsight> I don't think that EBo is ever in here
[03:05:25] <MrHindsight> http://sourceforge.net/p/emc/mailman/emc-developers/thread/E43BCB60-ACDE-4A2A-AF47-D911D9CF742A%40mah.priv.at/#msg32031936
[03:05:30] <skunkworks> memleak: I could test some hardware
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[03:09:02] <memleak> perfect thanks!
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[03:21:30] <skunkworks> memleak: where is the livecd? :?
[03:24:33] <memleak> its not out yet, im trying to re-figure out my RTAI gentoo system i made several months ago..
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[03:26:21] <skunkworks> heh
[03:26:30] <skunkworks> no rush.
[03:26:57] <memleak> quite the magic system.
[03:28:15] <mozmck> I should be able to test with a parport and steppers.
[03:29:06] <memleak> without an install to hard drive?
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[03:32:16] <MrHindsight> a live cd just sets up the file system in RAM, people will just have to modify the configs to test on real hardware
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[03:33:33] <MrHindsight> if he makes a Live CD maybe he should have some standard configs
[03:34:41] <MrHindsight> or since this is currently just for testing you could send him the configs you want and they could just be included
[03:37:05] <mozmck> I would probably try and put it on a thumb drive, but you can make configs, you just lose them when you power down.
[03:37:52] <mozmck> I've never used Gentoo though... Debian and Ubuntu mostly
[03:39:53] <Tom_itx> are there specific tests you want run?
[03:40:32] <Tom_itx> i could try it on 7i43/47 stepper setup
[03:46:21] <MrHindsight> he just needs to see what happens on other systems
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[03:47:52] <MrHindsight> he ran the simulations for weeks without issues and then when with drivers and motors errors came up
[03:48:05] <MrHindsight> joint following and RT errors
[03:49:21] <MrHindsight> so we're not sure what the actual difference is between the simulations and when software stepping on an LPT
[03:50:38] <MrHindsight> we also has USB cameras running
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[03:51:56] <MrHindsight> we even had a few RT errors when the motors were stopped
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[05:03:30] <cmorley> cradek: not well, my work shutdown didn't finish well and I have worked all weekend. I'll do my best this week, but I understand if you release without my fixes.
[05:08:04] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Robert W. Ellenberg 05circular-blend-arc-rc3 3198edf 06linuxcnc Merge branch 'hotfix/velocity-limits' into circular-blend-arc-rc3 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=3198edf
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[06:13:42] <memleak> pastebin.ca/2696168 seteuid problems..
[06:13:55] <memleak> and setuid
[06:21:43] <memleak> is this a good fix? pastebin.ca/2696171
[06:22:34] <memleak> if so i'll fix the other tree
[06:22:38] <memleak> *three
[06:22:48] <memleak> two, actually. wow im tired
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[06:30:11] <memleak> here is what i mucked up: pastebin.ca/2696172
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[13:16:42] <cradek> cmorley: thanks for the update, sorry work is rough.
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[14:11:17] <skunkworks> cradek: I don't know - maybe it isn't a problem with 1 segment look-ahead? I have run the same config in master without the velocity overages..
[14:13:04] <skunkworks> cradek: this is master as of a few weeks ago.
http://imagebin.org/305773
[14:13:36] <skunkworks> no velocity overages - but the acc overage issue that pops up.
[14:20:15] <cradek> skunkworks: I couldn't tell if he introduced the bug when rewriting/refactoring the canon level, or if it was an old bug -- I don't think amount of lookahead would affect it
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[14:23:31] <skunkworks> don't know. all I know is I don't see it running master.
[14:23:52] <cradek> you tested master while rotated?
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[14:26:31] <skunkworks> yes
[14:26:46] <skunkworks> that is what the screeshot above is
[14:26:53] <skunkworks> rotated 90deg
[14:26:54] <cradek> excellent thanks
[14:27:06] <cradek> that makes me pretty confident it's something introduced in the rewrite
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[14:43:37] <seb_kuzminsky> memleak: thanks for looking at that compile warning
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[18:27:13] <memleak> seb_kuzminsky, thanks!
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[18:36:14] <memleak> seb_kuzminsky, just FYI it's not a warning but an error with GCC 4.8.2
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[18:57:13] <seb_kuzminsky> good! i think we should aspire to sometime turn on -Werror in our CFLAGS
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[20:29:17] <memleak> seb_kuzminsky, later versions of GCC get more and more strict along with default -W* flags
[20:29:39] <seb_kuzminsky> that's great
[20:33:05] <memleak> heh most programmers i know get bummed when that happens. "oh no! i cant be as lazy!"
[20:33:23] <memleak> in all honesty im surprised RTAI compiles with 4.8.X
[20:36:31] <memleak> one thing thats throwing me off with RTAI kernel development is that linuxcnc keeps throwing undefined references in modules such as floor...?
[20:37:03] <memleak> here we go.. ceil, fabs, floor, and pow
[20:37:48] <memleak> what causes undefined references in modules such as joyhandle.ko sim_spindle.ko etc... anyway?
[20:39:04] <cradek> failure to include rtapi_math.h?
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[20:40:17] <memleak> i didnt touch the linuxcnc source..
[20:40:31] <seb_kuzminsky> are those inlines from the header file? or supplied by a loadable module?
[20:40:54] <memleak> seb_kuzminsky, no idea
[20:41:31] <cradek> rtai_math module not loaded or incorrectly built?
[20:42:11] <memleak> RTAI math support needs to be enabled?
[20:42:17] <seb_kuzminsky> yes
[20:42:56] <memleak> ah!
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[23:10:25] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Michael Geszkiewicz 052.6 67f0f84 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/hostmot2.c hm2: only hm2dpll module is supported by driver, don't warn about it * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=67f0f84
[23:10:41] <micges> PCW: ^^
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[23:17:28] <micges> seb_kuzminsky: it's minor typo fix
[23:18:06] <PCW> Thanks!
[23:21:37] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks micges
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[23:25:44] <seb_kuzminsky> cmorley: thanks for the update to the update wiki page
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