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[00:58:24] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky: This may be just a 14.04 issue.
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[01:58:03] <dgarr> skunkworks: re undefined symbol: tclStubsPtr in 14.x -- do you have a package like tcl-8.5dev installed? eg, what does dpkg -l 'tcl*dev' show?
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[02:08:58] <skunkworks> dgarr: Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[02:08:59] <skunkworks> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[02:09:01] <skunkworks> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[02:09:02] <skunkworks> ||/ Name Version Architecture Description
[02:09:04] <skunkworks> +++-==============-============-============-=================================
[02:09:05] <skunkworks> ii tcl-dev:amd64 8.6.0+6ubunt amd64 Tool Command Language (default ve
[02:09:07] <skunkworks> ii tcl8.6-dev:amd 8.6.1-4ubunt amd64 Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v
[02:09:08] <skunkworks> skunkworks@skunkworks-Studio-XPS-1645:~/linuxcnc-dev$
[02:15:03] <dgarr> maybe 8.6 is different? what does this say: dpkg -L tcl8.6-dev|grep -i stub
[02:16:56] <dgarr> i mean: dpkg -L tcl8.6-dev:amd and also tcl8.6dev:amd64 -- test both to see if there is a file like (on 12.10) /usr/lib/libtclstub8.5.a
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[02:20:10] <skunkworks> skunkworks@skunkworks-Studio-XPS-1645:~/linuxcnc-dev$ dpkg -L tcl8.6-dev:amd
[02:20:12] <skunkworks> dpkg-query: package 'tcl8.6-dev' is not installed
[02:20:13] <skunkworks> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[02:20:15] <skunkworks> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
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[02:20:55] <skunkworks> skunkworks@skunkworks-Studio-XPS-1645:~/linuxcnc-dev$ dpkg -L tcl8.6dev:amd64
[02:20:57] <skunkworks> dpkg-query: package 'tcl8.6dev' is not installed
[02:20:58] <skunkworks> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[02:21:00] <skunkworks> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
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[02:22:45] <skunkworks> I assume the you meant tcl8.6-dev:amd64
[02:23:42] <skunkworks> ^ pastebin
[02:23:55] <dgarr> yes i imagijne tcl-dev:amd64 us the same as or points to tcl8.6-dev:amd
[02:24:43] <skunkworks> I mean
http://pastebin.ca/2693302
[02:25:47] <dgarr> maybe try nm /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtclstub8.6.a | grep tclStubsPtr
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[02:26:51] <skunkworks> skunkworks@skunkworks-Studio-XPS-1645:~/linuxcnc-dev$ nm /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtclstub8.6.a | grep tclStubsPtr
[02:26:52] <skunkworks> 0000000000000000 B tclStubsPtr
[02:26:54] <skunkworks> U tclStubsPtr
[02:26:55] <skunkworks> U tclStubsPtr
[02:28:43] <dgarr> on 12.10 /usr/lib/libtclstub8.5.a so maybe you could try making a lnk : ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtclstub8.6.1 /usr/lib/libtclstub8.6.a
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[02:29:58] <skunkworks> same error
[02:30:22] <skunkworks> odd
[02:31:50] <dgarr> maybe try export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu in a shell ant then test in same shel
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[02:38:28] <skunkworks> should it do something different? (it throws the same error)
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[02:38:36] <skunkworks> (thanks for looking at this)
[02:38:50] <dgarr> also, maybe postbin what this says: ldd `which wish`
[02:40:34] <dgarr> i just looked at a laptop i have with 13.10 and everything is like yours (except it is 32bit and i386) and hashow works -- so i'm out of ideas
[02:40:43] <skunkworks> http://pastebin.ca/2693303
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[02:50:30] <dgarr> 13.10: grep tclstub config.log --> TCL_LIBS='-L/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu -ltclstub8.5'
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[02:51:19] <dgarr> config.log might shou something of interest ^
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[02:54:29] <skunkworks> 13.10: grep tclstub config.log --> TCL_LIBS='-L/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu -ltclstub8.5'
[02:54:31] <skunkworks> bash: TCL_LIBS=-L/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu -ltclstub8.5: No such file or directory
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[03:00:05] <dgarr> TCL_LIBS='-L/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu -ltclstub8.5' looks wrong for amd64 ?
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[03:04:27] <skunkworks> i386 does.. ;)
[03:04:40] <skunkworks> I don't see anything close.
[03:06:32] <skunkworks> (in the lib directory
[03:06:34] <skunkworks> )
[03:08:59] <skunkworks> there is a x86_64-linux-gnu directory
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[03:14:42] <dgarr> you can try to configure again with ./configure --with-tclConfig=path
[03:15:15] <dgarr> http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/notes.txt
[03:30:25] <skunkworks> this didn't help.. (if I understood your directions right ./configure --enable-simulator --with-tclConfig=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/tclConfig.sh
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[03:37:17] <dgarr> what does this say: grep config.log stub
[03:37:34] <dgarr> or i mean grep stub config.log
[03:39:40] <dgarr> if it says i386 and you are x86_64 something either went wront with --with-tclConfig or the tclConfig.sh is messed up , maybe pastebin config.log
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[04:11:45] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.6 e5cd4ff 06linuxcnc 10debian/control.in deb: change package maintainer to Seb * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e5cd4ff
[04:18:10] <cmorley> Seb_kuzminsky: The sf posted bugs are in all current versions. The third one is fixed in 2.5.4, 2.6 and master
[04:19:07] * seb_kuzminsky is looking...
[04:20:34] <seb_kuzminsky> i searched for 'pncconf' in the bug tracker and found 7 open bugs (and 1 closed)
[04:21:12] <seb_kuzminsky> which is the one you say is fixed in 2.5 and up?
[04:21:50] <cmorley> I don't think its posted in sf... checking
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[04:28:06] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl
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[05:16:47] <cmorley> hmm some real bugs still there, possibly in 2.6. Some how I didn't get the reports and didn't check SF. Will work on them this coming weekend.
[05:22:43] <seb_kuzminsky> ok cool
[05:23:32] <seb_kuzminsky> do you think we need to hold up the ~pre1 release, or can the bugfixes go in ~pre2, two weeks or so after ~pre1?
[05:24:07] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks for taking care of #303
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[05:28:16] <linuxcnc-build> build #147 of 4017.deb-wheezy-armhf is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4017.deb-wheezy-armhf/builds/147 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
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[14:12:48] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks: i can reproduce your problem on trusty
[14:12:49] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.6 35dc8ef 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure 10debian/control.in deb: add support for building on Ubuntu Trusty Tahr 14.04 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=35dc8ef
[14:15:51] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky, trusty?
[14:16:22] <skunkworks> oh 14.04 is trusty..
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[14:16:56] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky, did you see the little bit of troubleshooting dgar helped me with last night/
[14:18:16] <skunkworks> ^ heh - that was also a question
[14:18:32] <pcw_home> Are you running into the same thing I did with 14.04? (tk/tcl dependency issues)
[14:20:05] <skunkworks> pcw_home, well - so far the onlything I have noticed that doesn't work is the 'show hal configuration'
[14:20:18] <skunkworks> what issues did you have?
[14:20:53] <pcw_home> I could not get it to compile because of tcl/tk version problems
[14:21:21] <pcw_home> but this was ubc-7i80 so master may be different
[14:21:25] <skunkworks> huh
[14:21:49] <skunkworks> maybe the 'sort of' fixed it by the time I tried it a week ago
[14:21:50] <skunkworks> oh - maybe
[14:22:20] <pcw_home> ubc 7i80 is a a couple months old
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[14:28:48] <seb_kuzminsky> pcw_home: i just pushed a commit to 2.6 that makes it build for me on trusty (14.04)
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[14:32:25] <pcw_home> Thanks!
[14:33:04] <pcw_home> unity on trusty is a bit less wearing on the mouse arm
[14:33:51] <seb_kuzminsky> it still doesnt address the issue skunkworks reported, the tclStubsPtr thing
[14:34:31] <skunkworks> halscope works - isn't that tcl?
[14:35:08] <seb_kuzminsky> no, it's C
[14:35:17] <seb_kuzminsky> it was written my john kasunich, after all ;-)
[14:35:32] <skunkworks> oh
[14:35:42] <JT-Shop> seb_kuzminsky, is the 14.04 deb for real time or just for sim?
[14:35:48] <seb_kuzminsky> no debs yet
[14:35:59] <seb_kuzminsky> i only tested building it myself, for sim
[14:36:53] <pcw_home> skunkworks are you using sim or RT?
[14:36:57] <seb_kuzminsky> trusty ships with linux 3.13, our rtai guy memleak says he thinks he can support rtai on 3.10, so maybe some day we could ship linuxcnc on rtai on linux 3.10 on trusty,
[14:37:08] <skunkworks> sim at the moment (just on my laptop)
[14:37:19] <pcw_home> 3.12 3.12 3.12 !
[14:37:20] <JT-Shop> ok thanks'
[14:37:32] <seb_kuzminsky> but not this day...
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[14:38:04] <seb_kuzminsky> what does 3.12 have over 3.10? anythign good?
[14:38:50] <skunkworks> better hardware support it seems...
[14:39:02] <pcw_home> support for the intel HD graphics on baytrail (celeron J1800,J1900,J2900)
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[14:41:33] <skunkworks> 12.04 - glxgears on the baytrial runs 1fps
[14:41:44] <skunkworks> 10.04 runs much better.
[14:42:19] <pcw_home> Yeah and with 3.12 full screen 1080 flash is no issue
[14:43:43] <seb_kuzminsky> cool
[14:44:02] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl, work
[14:44:25] <pcw_home> in general the Baytrail MBs seem better that the older Atom MBs
[14:44:26] <pcw_home> in every way except they require late kernel/video drivers
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[15:29:50] <linuxcnc-build> build #148 of 4017.deb-wheezy-armhf is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4017.deb-wheezy-armhf/builds/148 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
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[19:21:56] <skunkworks_> seb_kuzminsky: does this make sense? (search for tclStubsPtr)
http://core.tcl.tk/tcl/tktview/8419b6d9ae?plaintext
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[20:19:44] <cradek> cmorley: are you around? I am working on a 2.5.4 release and wonder if you could tell me about the two open pncconf bugs
[20:23:48] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: cmorley said he'd look at pncconf bugs this weekend
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[20:25:44] <cradek> oh great
[20:25:50] <cradek> thanks, I didn't see that
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[22:07:58] <memleak> i will support 3.12 kernels no doubt but i just recently got 3.10 working, however the latency numbers are a bit worse than 3.4
[22:08:47] <memleak> pcw_home, you could say that about any GPU. the newer ones are always better :P
[22:09:20] <memleak> i've been buying high end external cards for quite some time now and i don't ever recall saying "wow this new card sucks.." xD
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