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[00:16:35] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master 55a8af7 06linuxcnc Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/v2.5_branch' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=55a8af7
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[00:34:01] <linuxcnc-build> build #1850 of 1101.rip-hardy-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
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[00:35:01] <linuxcnc-build> build #1848 of 1201.rip-lucid-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
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[00:35:12] <linuxcnc-build> build #1851 of 1101.rip-hardy-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies configuring] Build details are at
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[00:35:15] <linuxcnc-build> build #1847 of 1202.rip-lucid-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
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[00:39:41] <linuxcnc-build> build #1848 of 1100.rip-hardy-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies configuring] Build details are at
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[01:21:39] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master 2d8d6e0 06linuxcnc 10scripts/platform-is-supported master doesnt build on hardy right now * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d8d6e0
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[06:09:16] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=master
[06:09:17] <linuxcnc-build> you must provide a Builder, try 'force build [--branch=BRANCH] [--revision=REVISION] [--props=PROP1=VAL1,PROP2=VAL2...] <WHICH> <REASON>'
[06:09:25] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=master checkin
[06:09:25] <linuxcnc-build> no such builder 'checkin'
[06:09:28] <seb_kuzminsky> err
[06:09:32] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=master 0000.checkin
[06:09:33] <linuxcnc-build> build #1852 forced
[06:09:33] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[06:29:25] <linuxcnc-build> build #0 of 1401.rip-wheezy-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update configuring] Build details are at
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[06:40:39] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.5-wheezy-support 1b9c967 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure deb: make wheezy build-depend on more stuff * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b9c967
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[07:55:11] <linuxcnc-build> build #0 of 4016.deb-wheezy-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
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[08:23:28] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05v2.5_branch 1b9c967 06linuxcnc fast forward * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b9c967
[08:23:41] <KGB-linuxcnc> 052.5-wheezy-support 1b9c967 06linuxcnc 04. branch deleted * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b9c967
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[08:26:28] <linuxcnc-build> build #16 of 4017.deb-wheezy-armhf is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_3] Build details are at
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[08:28:23] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master 9dafe69 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/v2.5_branch' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=9dafe69
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[08:48:42] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Norbert Schechner 05master 5cc0f69 06linuxcnc 10src/po/Submakefile po Submakefile : corrected an error * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5cc0f69
[08:48:43] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Norbert Schechner 05master eddaaa4 06linuxcnc Merge branch 'master' of ssh://norbert@git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=eddaaa4
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[09:56:43] <linuxcnc-build> build #17 of 4017.deb-wheezy-armhf is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
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[10:30:12] <linuxcnc-build> build #1 of 4016.deb-wheezy-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_3] Build details are at
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[12:19:04] <skunkworks> logger[mah]_,
[12:19:04] <logger[mah]_> skunkworks: Log stored at
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[14:25:11] <skunkworks> cradek, git is running a lot faster... did you find something?
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[14:51:56] <cradek> nope, I forgot about the problem
[14:52:04] <cradek> maybe it repacked itself, or something like that
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[14:53:44] <skunkworks> cradek, how do you switch back to the linuxcnc git? I am pointing to robs git hub..
[14:54:20] <cradek> not sure how you're set up - you can have several remotes defined
[14:54:38] <cradek> if you only use one remote (origin) you can change it with the git remote command
[14:55:12] <cradek> you can also add a new remote that way
[14:55:42] <skunkworks_> skunkworks@skunkworks-Studio-XPS-1645:~/linuxcnc-arc-line$ git remote
[14:55:43] <skunkworks_> github-robE
[14:55:45] <skunkworks_> origin
[14:55:56] <skunkworks_> So - i want to switch to origin I assume
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[15:30:00] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks_: you don't really "switch" remotes
[15:30:10] <seb_kuzminsky> you specify which one you want to use on a per-command basis
[15:30:12] <seb_kuzminsky> forex:
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[15:30:15] <seb_kuzminsky> git fetch origin
[15:30:20] <seb_kuzminsky> git fetch github-robE
[15:30:59] <seb_kuzminsky> then once you've fetched the remotes you care about, you can check out the branch you want
[15:31:08] <seb_kuzminsky> git checkout v2.5_branch
[15:31:14] <seb_kuzminsky> git merge --ff--only origin/v2.5_branch
[15:35:03] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky, thanks.. I did this - don't know if it is right but seemed to work...
[15:35:11] <skunkworks_> git fetch origin
[15:35:13] <skunkworks_> git branch --track circular-blend-arc-rc1 origin/circular-blend-arc-rc1
[15:35:14] <skunkworks_> git checkout circular-blend-arc-rc1
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[15:37:13] <skunkworks_> (I could not see the rc1 branch because I think orgin was never fetched.. (I only worked with robs)
[15:37:31] <skunkworks_> if I understand it right_
[15:39:52] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks_: yeah, those commands look right
[15:40:36] <seb_kuzminsky> you can use 'gitk' or 'tig' or 'git log --decorate' to verify that your HEAD points to the same place as origin/circular-arc-blend-rc1
[15:43:13] <skunkworks_> I did a git describe and it seemed right
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[15:46:20] <seb_kuzminsky> memleak: my odroid u3 just shipped
[15:46:24] <seb_kuzminsky> squeee
[15:51:05] <seb_kuzminsky> when i redid the packaging for ubc i fixed a couple of bugs for building on wheezy
[15:51:57] <seb_kuzminsky> i wish i could rebase ubc to move those commits to the beginning, then push just those to master
[15:52:02] <seb_kuzminsky> i guess i'll cherry pick instead , and whoever merges will have to deal with it :-/
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[16:17:28] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky, you made a comment about the robs rc1 not building sim? It seems to build here.
[16:17:35] <seb_kuzminsky> it builds
[16:17:43] <seb_kuzminsky> but does it pass runtests? no! ;-)
[16:17:47] <skunkworks> oh
[16:17:59] <skunkworks> what does it fail?
[16:18:04] <seb_kuzminsky> interp/g6164
[16:18:13] <seb_kuzminsky> i talked to rob about it, he's got some ideas
[16:18:20] <skunkworks> ok - cool
[16:18:36] <seb_kuzminsky> i think he changed a default behavior, and he's not sure if that's the right way to go
[16:18:52] <seb_kuzminsky> i expect him to post to emc-developers asking for feedback/guidance on it
[16:20:43] <skunkworks> He has changed the default behaviour of a few things that might cause some headaches.. (exact stop at G0 tranistions, G64 P Q behavior..)
[16:20:55] <seb_kuzminsky> i didnt know about the g0 thing
[16:21:09] <seb_kuzminsky> it's the g64 p q that broke the interp/g6164 test
[16:21:23] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm bummed we dont have a test that noticed the other change in behavior :-(
[16:21:24] <skunkworks> ah - he had asked about it a while back on the devel list...
[16:21:46] <skunkworks> (the g64 behavior)
[16:21:48] <seb_kuzminsky> i've not been paying much attention to discussions about that branch, sorry...
[16:21:56] <seb_kuzminsky> my head's elsewhere
[16:22:14] <skunkworks> and actually the G0 behaviur also.
[16:22:18] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky, I bet :)
[16:22:26] <skunkworks> you're doing great!
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[16:22:44] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks... i feel like i'm falling further and further behind :-/
[16:23:00] <skunkworks> I think they should be ini setting or such.. Old behaviour - new behaviour..
[16:23:32] <skunkworks> I wish there where more that could help
[16:24:37] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm not sure about ini settings to select different behaviors like that
[16:24:47] <seb_kuzminsky> on one hand it lets the user choose, which is good
[16:24:57] <skunkworks> sure..
[16:25:09] <seb_kuzminsky> but it makes it harder to debug, and to test every combination
[16:25:15] <skunkworks> sure..
[16:25:19] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
[16:25:45] <skunkworks> I know you can simulate the the exact stop at G0 with G61...
[16:31:54] <skunkworks> I see his argument with the G64 behavior.. If someone says G64P.005 and thinks it will follow the path within .005 - it might not. (because the naive cam detector makes a new path with Q of .005 and then follows that path within .005. (so I think it could be .010 off of programmed path)
[16:33:57] <seb_kuzminsky> huh, i didnt know that's how it worked
[16:34:59] <cradek> I am not sure about that. blends happen at endpoints. endpoints of the NCD path are exactly endpoints of (some) original moves, so you don't tend to have NCD path diversion and blend path diversion at the same time, so I don't think they can be considered additive in a simple sense
[16:36:30] <cradek> but I wonder what conversation I'm missing -- is this about the new runtest failure?
[16:37:26] <cradek> but ... with his planner we'll be able to ditch the NCD won't we?
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[16:40:10] <cradek> wish rob was here more
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[16:41:42] <skunkworks> cradek, I see what you are saying..
[16:42:27] <cradek> did you see double diversion somewhere?
[16:42:28] <skunkworks> (if a endpoint disapears - the blending isn't probably happening there..
[16:42:53] <cradek> yes (remove probably)
[16:42:58] <skunkworks> I don't have any numbers - We should come up with a test. (just a thought experiment)
[16:43:19] <skunkworks> (which was obviously not well thought out)
[16:43:57] <skunkworks> The NCD still has an improvement on run times. He has talked about improving it.
[16:44:10] <cradek> I can sure see how he would think that, but I think it's probably not a real thing that happens
[16:44:36] <cradek> arg I'm kind of sad that he's not removing anything
[16:44:52] <cradek> NCD is a band-aid
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[16:46:16] <skunkworks> Besides getting debs out and merging into master, I'd like to tweak Naive CAM a little to do a better job of smoothing. The way it works now, it's all-or-nothing since it works by deleting points in the path. I think that we could add a simple smoothing step that would apply small corrections to points if we can't delete them outright
[16:49:19] <skunkworks> I think you see it with really really short line segment gcode. (bad cam) I don't know the mechenism - but I think if the segments are short in terms of the servo period - there are issues.
[16:51:13] <cradek> I did not find this quote on emc-developers
[16:51:41] <cradek> I did find where he's asking about double diversion
[16:52:24] <cradek> but I'm not sure what diversion his example shows - it doesn't look doubled to me, but I'm eyeballing
[16:52:27] <pcw_home> if the servo period is an issue, hand HAL forward differences (-1 -2 -3 whatever) and let the hardware extrapolate
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[16:53:39] <skunkworks> cradek, 12/26 Naive cam behavior
[16:53:50] <skunkworks> emc-devel
[16:54:00] <cradek> yes found that one
[16:54:12] <cradek> but I don't see the things you quoted
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[16:54:21] <cradek> "tweak NCD" etc
[16:55:01] <skunkworks> as far as my quote - that was from a personal email he sent me. (I had poked him about your question about git access and what he had been working on)
[16:55:07] <cradek> oh ok
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[16:57:17] <skunkworks> He is a college student working on his disertation...
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[17:24:41] <skunkworks_> cradek: can you look at this?
[17:24:47] <skunkworks_> g64P.010Q0
[17:24:48] <skunkworks_> g0x0y0
[17:24:51] <skunkworks_> G1x.998f500
[17:24:52] <skunkworks_> y.009
[17:24:53] <skunkworks_> y1
[17:24:55] <skunkworks_> g0x0y0
[17:24:56] <skunkworks_> m30
[17:25:44] <skunkworks> Besides getting debs out and merging into master, I'd like to tweak Naive CAM a little to do a better job of smoothing. The way it works now, it's all-or-nothing since it works by deleting points in the path. I think that we could add a simple smoothing step that would apply small corrections to points if we can't delete them outright
[17:25:55] <skunkworks> heh wronge computer paste buffer..
[17:26:01] <skunkworks_> http://imagebin.org/297200
[17:26:05] <seb_kuzminsky> that could have been embarrassing ;-)
[17:26:12] <skunkworks_> been there...
[17:26:26] <seb_kuzminsky> i've accidentally typed my login password into irc before :-/
[17:26:44] <seb_kuzminsky> i need a window manager with think-to-focus
[17:26:59] <skunkworks_> that is run g64P.01Q.01 and g64P.01Q0
[17:27:32] <skunkworks_> why is the blend arc so much bigger with g64P.01Q.01
[17:28:08] <cradek> the slowness needed to hit the short segment causes the blend to be small
[17:28:28] <skunkworks_> oh - duh
[17:28:38] <cradek> drawing a .01 radius circle around that endpoint would be illuminating
[17:29:02] <cradek> after seeing this I think I'm wrong and they do add somewhat
[17:31:44] <cradek> too bad I already responded
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[17:40:07] * skunkworks contradicts himself all the time...
[17:40:21] <skunkworks> No he doesn't!
[17:43:35] <skunkworks_> cradek: I think this is what he is showing (and what you just thought about?)
[17:43:38] <skunkworks_> http://imagebin.org/297205
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[17:56:50] <cradek> skunkworks_: yeah it's definitely further away from the corner in the top one (duh)
[17:58:15] <cradek> what we see and what the NCD uses to test diversion might not be the same - everywhere on the new path might be near enough to SOME point on the old path, but that doesn't mean every point on the old path is near enough to the new path, which is mayyyybe what you really want to test?
[17:58:42] <cradek> now I'm back to hoping he can just remove the NCD
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[18:03:45] <cradek> it doesn't work at all for >3 axes
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[18:06:44] <skunkworks> cradek, agreed. (and I think that is an example of worst case.)
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[19:53:09] <memleak> seb_kuzminsky, odroid u3?
[19:54:34] <seb_kuzminsky> memleak:
http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G138733896281
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[19:55:04] <seb_kuzminsky> i heard you were doing an arm port of rtai, the u3 is the best bang/buck arm system i've found
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[19:56:20] <memleak> i haven't started on RTAI for ARM yet
[19:56:29] <seb_kuzminsky> ah
[19:56:40] <memleak> if we do though, we'll most likely be using allwinner chips
[19:56:53] <memleak> quad core mali really catches my eye though...
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[20:00:09] <memleak> allwinner A80 uses powerVR -_-
[20:00:49] <seb_kuzminsky> memleak: it's big.LITTLE, have you played with that any?
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[20:04:22] <memleak> i have not, sorry.
[20:07:24] <seb_kuzminsky> what!? get back to work, you
[20:09:59] <memleak> i've been working on redoing the kernel for the cubieboard2 and cleaning up all the main source trees for it, been busy
[20:10:08] <seb_kuzminsky> cool
[20:10:26] <memleak> i love the cubieboard2
[20:10:48] <memleak> cubietruck would be a bit more fun though
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[20:15:07] <seb_kuzminsky> cubieboard2: dual A7, 1 GB RAM, $59
[20:15:16] <seb_kuzminsky> odroid u3: quad A(, 2 GB RAM, $59
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[20:15:35] <seb_kuzminsky> err, s/A(/A9/
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[20:22:03] <memleak> int default = john_doe() ? 1 : 3; does that mean if it is john_doe it is 1, and if it isn't, it is 3?
[20:22:16] <memleak> i hate those freaking question mark colon things...
[20:22:45] <cradek> if john_doe() returns true default gets 1, otherwise it gets 3
[20:23:01] <memleak> ah ok! thanks cradek
[20:24:10] <cradek> but I think nonconstant initializers might not be valid C depending on your C flavor
[20:24:12] <seb_kuzminsky> memleak: you'd love hacking on freebsd
[20:24:50] <memleak> i've hacked on openbsd before!
[20:24:54] <cradek> and I bet default is a reserved word
[20:25:10] <CaptHindsight> seb_kuzminsky: I like the samsung parts as well, but they haven't been making them readily available
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[20:25:41] <seb_kuzminsky> i dont have enough knowledge/experience to prefer one arm chip manufacturer over another
[20:27:29] <seb_kuzminsky> looking forward to the amd opteron a1100 though...
[20:29:17] <CaptHindsight> I've been desinging mainboards since the 80's, x86, ARM, mips, sparc, etc etc
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[20:47:25] <memleak> seb_kuzminsky, i'm sure you have enough knowledge to not go with a tegra :)
[21:01:16] <seb_kuzminsky> memleak: because it's by nvidia? yes that one i know ;-)
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