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[00:05:21] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: thanks for making that a 2.6 blocker like I promised to do
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[01:26:15] <seb_kuzminsky> great minds think alike
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[02:09:20] <cmorley> On my machine 'glade-3' is not valid on the command line. If I start the glade editor from the menu I get hal widgets, but not from the command line ( I get the wrong version of glade)
[02:09:53] <cmorley> owhite: There should be no reason to export catalogs
[02:11:34] <cmorley> and that is not where the catalogs are anyways
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[02:16:31] <cmorley> ahh for me glade-gtk2 is the command to launch the 3.8 version of glade
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[03:05:27] <cmorley> how does one close bugs in the tracker or am I authorized?
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[03:10:30] <cradek> when you say from the menu, what menu do you mean?
[03:10:41] <cradek> you should be able to close the bug
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[03:12:35] <cmorley> menu -I mean start menu
[03:13:17] <cmorley> programming/glade interface designer
[03:13:21] <cradek> ah
[03:13:52] <cradek> so you think if he runs glade-gtk2, it'll all just work?
[03:14:40] <cmorley> yes
[03:14:46] <cmorley> it does for me
[03:14:49] <cradek> did you try it with a buildbot master deb?
[03:15:05] <cmorley> yes same instructions AFAIR
[03:15:44] <cradek> he says "Elsewhere on the web people have suggesting using older versions of glade - this does not work." but does not elaborate
[03:15:46] <cmorley> he could look in /usr/bin to see if there is a glade and a glade-gtk2 file
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[03:16:13] <cmorley> yes I'm sure others have told him to use ubuntu 10.04 version
[03:16:22] <cmorley> he doesn't have to
[03:16:24] <cradek> oh hmm
[03:16:41] <cmorley> but 3.8 is the last version to work
[03:17:11] <cradek> I don't see glade-gtk2 as a dependency - I wonder if it should be
[03:17:57] <cmorley> probably - the name changed cause now there are two versions of the glade editor
[03:18:06] <cmorley> one for GTK3 one for GTK2
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[03:20:16] <cmorley> GTK3 is the standard version for 12.04 but is no good for us
[03:20:38] <cmorley> so where do i look to close a bug?
[03:22:28] <cradek> after you click edit, you get pulldowns where you can change it to closed
[03:23:13] <cmorley> ahh perfect thanks
[03:23:53] <cmorley> yaay closed -fixed!
[03:24:07] <cradek> too bad owhite is gone
[03:25:44] * Tom_itx blames cradek for this cold wind coming from the north
[03:25:46] <cradek> I think you closed the wrong one
[03:26:19] <cradek> http://sourceforge.net/p/emc/bugs/352/ is still open
[03:26:25] <cradek> you closed 305
[03:26:25] <cmorley> no i wanted to close the LED one a long time ago
[03:26:29] <cradek> ah ok
[03:26:52] <cmorley> I'll wait to make sure about the glade problem
[03:27:10] <cmorley> are
[03:27:24] <cmorley> you going to go to another linuxcnc meet this year?
[03:27:40] <cmorley> if there is one I mean.
[03:28:22] <cradek> possibly if there is one - who knows
[03:28:34] <cradek> one of these days skunkworks is surely going to have a retrofit party
[03:28:57] <cmorley> yes who knows. i enjoyed our last one. great to meet everyone.
[03:29:07] <cradek> like in the old days, when we did more work and less sparring
[03:29:12] <cmorley> lol
[03:29:35] <cradek> I did too - many new folks and that was great
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[03:43:20] <skunkworks> hmm - that sounds fun...
[03:45:30] <skunkworks> the temp is dropping pretty quick. the house is popping
[03:46:09] <Tom_itx> the wind is howling here
[03:47:02] <skunkworks> it is pretty flat by you - isn't it?
[03:47:13] <skunkworks> you're near wichita?
[03:47:40] <Tom_itx> in wichita
[03:47:52] <skunkworks> ah
[03:52:01] <skunkworks> cradek: did you end up getting extra servo drives from somewhere?
[03:52:01] <Tom_itx> and as you probably noticed.. it is flat
[03:53:09] <skunkworks> cradek: what year was your jr?
[03:53:47] <cradek> um 84 or 85?
[03:54:39] <cradek> I bought two drives from ebay to replace the broken ones
[03:54:49] <cradek> I think it was two
[03:55:12] <cradek> one would come up faulted but work if you poked the reset button. I never found schematics and was not able to figure that out, so I replaced it
[03:55:23] <cradek> so I have one somewhere that's only partly dead
[03:55:35] <cradek> my memory is rusty about the retrofit already
[03:56:40] <skunkworks> ok - that makes sense - dad says this is 83
[03:56:48] <skunkworks> I thought it was late 80s
[03:57:07] <cradek> is yours alive?
[03:57:16] <skunkworks> not uet
[03:57:18] <skunkworks> yet
[03:57:29] <skunkworks> (not wired in..)
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[03:59:54] <skunkworks> was the spindle drive also dead?
[03:59:59] <cradek> yeah
[04:00:19] <skunkworks> did you attempt to fix it?
[04:00:20] <cradek> I think it always showed some fault or other
[04:00:25] <cradek> yes
[04:00:30] <skunkworks> ok
[04:00:38] <cradek> it would run a while, sometimes
[04:00:46] <skunkworks> what vfd did you end up getting?
[04:00:57] <cradek> a reliance electric somethingsomething
[04:01:07] <cradek> jmk raided his junkbox for me
[04:01:13] <skunkworks> ok - something jmk recomended
[04:01:15] <skunkworks> ah
[04:01:22] <skunkworks> nice
[04:01:34] <cradek> I emailed him pictures of the labels on the spindle motor and said HELP
[04:01:44] <skunkworks> that works :)
[04:01:51] <cradek> he said send me a check and I will solve all your problems
[04:02:04] <skunkworks> sometimes that is the best way to go
[04:02:11] <cradek> yep
[04:02:22] <skunkworks> the spindle drives on ebay are like $2500
[04:02:32] <cradek> after doing that and getting used to the result, I messed with stuart's machine which still had the original drive, and his sucked compared to mine
[04:02:47] <cradek> if you set it for 60rpm you could just grab the spindle and stop it
[04:02:54] <skunkworks> yeck
[04:03:12] <cradek> I don't know if his has something wrong with it, or if that's how it's supposed to work, but mine is much better
[04:03:56] <cradek> mine has a creep input, and you can configure the creep speed, and that's just great for the orient
[04:04:52] <skunkworks> whatever we use for a solution - I think the orient is done by the spindle drive.
[04:05:04] <cradek> yuck
[04:05:14] <skunkworks> easy way out... ;)
[04:05:24] <skunkworks> for the machine manfacturers
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[04:06:54] <skunkworks> oh - dad says 84
[04:07:41] <skunkworks> I don't know how I translated 84 to 83 - must be getting late
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[04:16:32] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb fcd663f 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure 10debian/control.in deb: depend on at least one flavor, suggest all flavors * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=fcd663f
[04:16:32] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb d9e2e95 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure deb: better reporting output * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9e2e95
[04:20:18] <seb_kuzminsky> with these commits i think i'm finally starting to get happy with packaging in ubc
[04:20:41] <cradek> are you also getting happy with ubc?
[04:20:44] <seb_kuzminsky> i need to rebase that branch to clean it up, if there's no objections i'll push it to ubc tomorrowish
[04:21:05] <cradek> cool
[04:21:21] <seb_kuzminsky> not sure yet, i dont have any runtime on it, and i havent re-read it all
[04:21:57] <seb_kuzminsky> good nights all
[04:22:07] <cradek> goodnight!
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[20:34:29] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb ac88141 06linuxcnc 10(12 files) deb: new debian/configure and debian/control* * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac88141
[20:34:29] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb e9e0714 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure deb/conf: accept -a to mean -r * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9e0714
[20:34:29] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb 242ff7e 06linuxcnc 10debian/control.in deb/control: get rid of ancient Provides in control * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=242ff7e
[20:34:31] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb 84fcbca 06linuxcnc 10debian/control.posix.in 10debian/control.rtai.in 10debian/control.rtpreempt.in deb/control: relax the Conflicts * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=84fcbca
[20:34:35] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb 96f1723 06linuxcnc 10debian/rules.in deb/rules: dont use cpio when cp will do * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=96f1723
[20:34:39] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb 02ef845 06linuxcnc 10debian/linuxcnc.files.in 10src/Makefile install rsyslogd.conf file * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=02ef845
[20:34:43] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb 2dd468e 06linuxcnc 10src/configure.in 10src/rtapi/ulapi_autoload.c give dlopen the path to the ulapi library * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=2dd468e
[20:34:47] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/ubc3-deb 07e9d60 06linuxcnc 10src/Makefile 10src/rtapi/Submakefile put ulapi-$flavor.so straight into rtlib/, not lib, so the dlopen can look in EMC2_RTLIB_DIR * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=07e9d60
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[21:42:33] <linuxcnc-build> build #25 of deb-precise-xenomai-binary-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
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[21:44:33] <linuxcnc-build> build #25 of deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-x86 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
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[21:44:50] <linuxcnc-build> build #25 of deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
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[23:53:04] <seb_kuzminsky> he was promoted