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[02:10:07] <cradek> what would it take to fix pncconf+5i25 in master so you don't have to dig through the web forum to make it work?
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[02:39:42] <pcw_home> all the xml files?
[03:03:44] <cradek> where do they need to get installed? if it's just a matter of packaging, I should be able to help
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[03:16:42] <pcw_home> pncconf looks for them in the normal firmware path
[03:17:11] <cradek> ah so they need to be in the hm2 deb, not the linuxcnc deb?
[03:17:27] <cradek> er - but the 5i25 doesn't need any hm2 deb does it
[03:17:41] <cradek> is this why it's hard?
[03:20:56] <pcw_home> I guess (that and the fact the the xml files were made by the firmware build script)
[03:23:04] <pcw_home> no reason not to include the 5i25 bitfiles along with the xml files either
[03:23:15] <pcw_home> (other than size)
[03:23:47] <cradek> since it's an optional package, a little more size isn't very important
[03:24:09] <seb_kuzminsky> i think we need a new vhdl push from you (peter), and we probably need updates to the debian packaging of the hostmot2 firmwares, then the buildbot should produced debs for us
[03:24:32] <pcw_home> and even xml files :-)
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[03:25:11] <cradek> yay, seb appears at just the right time
[03:25:25] <cradek> I was just getting a clone, and would have tried ... something ... with it
[03:25:32] * seb_kuzminsky engages cloaking device
[03:25:37] <cradek> noooo
[03:26:21] <seb_kuzminsky> time to go read books to my kids - be back in a bit
[03:26:43] <pcw_home> I think Chris M made the first 5i25 xml files by hand
[03:26:53] <pcw_home> bye Seb
[03:27:22] <cradek> do you know what vhdl update he means?
[03:27:38] <cradek> (we set up your push access didn't we?)
[03:28:15] <pcw_home> Yes but I have completely forgotten about it
[03:29:09] <pcw_home> maybe Seb can walk me through it when we both have a few minute free
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[03:37:43] <cmorley> Ironicly
[03:38:38] <cmorley> I just started coding pncconf to have the 5i25 data internally. I would prefer it from the hostmot2 repo though.
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[03:45:32] <pcw_home> I know I keep repeating this, but
[03:45:34] <pcw_home> If pncconf parsed the IDROM as an option it could get by
[03:45:35] <pcw_home> without the XML files (if they were missing)
[03:46:59] <cradek> I strongly support whichever is the best solution :-)
[03:51:55] <pcw_home> well best is hard and involves time travel
[03:52:29] * Tom_itx gets out the delorian
[03:52:55] <cradek> I hate those "step 1, invent a time machine" problems
[03:53:07] <skunkworks_> No, No, No... Tardis
[03:54:12] <skunkworks_> everyone knows the delorian wasn't a real time machine. Flux capacitor? Really? they didn't even pronounce gigawatts right..
[03:54:47] <Tom_itx> details...
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[04:08:31] <pcw_home> As long as you have a config that triggers the watchdog bug it seems that
[04:08:33] <pcw_home> hm2_eth is pretty stable (its been up 24/14 with no glitches)
[04:08:46] <pcw_home> (that doesnt trigger)
[04:10:37] <pcw_home> Preemt_RT seems stable as well on the D525 (its not terribly stable on this machine for some reason)
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[06:05:58] <zultron> Who says the DeLorean isn't a time machine? Every time I'm around one, I'm temporarily transported back a few decades to a time of big hair and shoulder pads.
[06:14:21] <zultron> Yuk, yuk: http://tinyurl.com/m89qdsa If you zoom, the number of DeLoreans in the lot changes.
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[09:22:40] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Morley 05master fd8f0ef 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/stepconf/build_HAL.py 10src/emc/usr_intf/stepconf/build_INI.py 10src/emc/usr_intf/stepconf/pages.py 10src/emc/usr_intf/stepconf/stepconf.py stepconf -fix input output signal search to include parport 2 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd8f0ef
[09:28:08] <KGB-linuxcnc> 05stepconf-GTK-builder b8675d9 06linuxcnc 04. branch deleted * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8675d9
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[19:27:37] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master 8eafe3c 06linuxcnc 10README remove obsolete Mission Statement from README * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=8eafe3c
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[19:55:14] <seb_kuzminsky> zultron, CaptHindsight, i'm trying to build master on debian wheezy on arm (beaglebone black), and i'm getting this error: http://pastebin.ca/2534145
[19:55:38] <seb_kuzminsky> i bet this is something that's been solved in the ubc3 branch, but didn't get pushed back to master? any advise for me?
[19:55:47] <seb_kuzminsky> building sim btw
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[20:41:36] <seb_kuzminsky> did you guys switch to gcc built-in functions?
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[22:42:22] <cradek> I'm a little sad to see that mission statement go. We actually accomplished the things on it.
[22:42:40] <cradek> (it was a simpler time...)
[22:50:37] <seb_kuzminsky> sad in a wistful reminiscent way or in a "seb made a bad commit" way?
[22:55:23] <andypugh> "LinuxCNC: Making code to make stuff."
[22:56:26] <andypugh> A friend had a company mission sstatement: "XXX Consulting: We do stuff for money"
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[23:01:13] <seb_kuzminsky> the old README Mission Statement seems like more of a todo list
[23:01:27] <seb_kuzminsky> a catchy slogan like andypugh's might be a fun idea
[23:03:11] <andypugh> It's only any good if it is done ironically, though. And it is a commonly believed fact that Americans think that "irony" has a similar meaning to "silvery" or "steely"
[23:04:14] <seb_kuzminsky> i can't tell if you're serious or not
[23:04:21] <seb_kuzminsky> you have to steel yourself for andypugh's irony
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[23:05:13] <andypugh> Now I find myself wondering if you are double bluffing by ironically acting confused about irony. Argh!
[23:05:41] <seb_kuzminsky> http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110707200453/memoryalpha/en/images/5/5d/Lal_female.jpg
[23:07:08] <andypugh> I borrowed the phrase "commonly believed fact" from a friend who is technically American. I rather like it.
[23:09:31] <andypugh> my wittering here is due to me watching a slow kernel compile scroll by.
[23:13:51] <seb_kuzminsky> your udoo isn't mercurial enough for you?
[23:15:22] <andypugh> Not the number of compiles I am doing. There is a cross-compiler but that just seemed likely to add places to go wrong.
[23:15:59] <andypugh> And it isn't awful. In fact it is a lot faster than the Dual Xeon server that I first compiled RTAI on.
[23:16:09] <andypugh> (Gen 1 Xeons, that is)
[23:17:22] <seb_kuzminsky> i want to stand up an ARM virtual machine for the buildbot, rather than have a shelf full of shitty little embedded computers
[23:18:03] <andypugh> I wonder if Yocto would be any help there?
[23:21:48] <andypugh> Just trying to figure out what the 1U server running my lathe really is. It looks like dual "Prestonia" Xeons, which are P4. There is a warning "Intel Server Board SE7501CW2 is designed to provide up to 65A per processors. Processors with higher current requirements are not supported." I have to say that 65A seems like really quite a lot of current.
[23:24:15] <skunkworks> I wonder if they got W and A mixed up
[23:25:46] <andypugh> They run at 1.5V so the numbers are similar.
[23:26:47] <andypugh> 85W CPUs
[23:28:46] <andypugh> Interesting to look at the Xeon power requirements, they build steadily up to Xeon 7020 "Paxville" at 165W and then start to ramp down again
[23:34:12] <andypugh> Somebody at Freescale like if - else constructions without brackets. I am not sure I like that
[23:35:09] <andypugh> Especially with multi-line conditions and multi-line statements.
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[23:35:58] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=master checkin
[23:35:59] <linuxcnc-build> build #1668 forced
[23:35:59] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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