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[00:01:05] <pcw_home> >01420011
[00:01:07] <pcw_home> > 3f040000
[00:01:08] <pcw_home> >01420011
[00:01:10] <pcw_home> > 00000000
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[00:03:06] <micges> wrong?
[00:03:31] <pcw_home> (DDR register linuxcnc running and stopped)
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[00:03:35] <pcw_home> I stopped linuxcnc by pulling the Ethernet cable
[00:03:37] <pcw_home> so it did not clean up so this indicates that the WD
[00:03:37] <pcw_home> is working and held of by linuxcnc and bites when left alone
[00:03:48] <pcw_home> all working as expected
[00:04:06] <micges> ok
[00:04:20] <pcw_home> s/held of/held off/
[00:05:14] <pcw_home> whats different between my setup and skunkworks is a mystery
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[00:06:18] <pcw_home> Andy has it (preempt_rt/7I80) working also (did you see his washing machine motor video?)
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[00:06:41] <micges> yes
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[01:25:15] <skunkworks> could it be something that I pulled for dependancies that is different than yours?
[01:28:51] <pcw_home> Maybe (I did find that my watchdog is enabled and working fine)
[01:29:25] <skunkworks> I saw that
[01:30:27] <pcw_home> if you have a moment, can you read the wd status register?
[01:30:49] <pcw_home> I think mesaflash can do it
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[01:33:21] <skunkworks> sorry - no.. it isn't here.
[01:33:25] <skunkworks> I am at home
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[01:52:50] <Tom_itx> can you flash over parport?
[01:53:05] <Tom_itx> or do you need jtag
[01:54:38] <pcw_home> flash what?
[01:56:12] <Tom_itx> 7i43
[01:56:30] <Tom_itx> not that i'm gonna, i wanna know how
[01:57:00] <Tom_itx> i see a few utilities in the mesa directory
[01:57:10] <pcw_home> Yes you can flash the 7I43 via EPP
[01:57:22] <pcw_home> or USB if your 7I43 has it
[01:57:32] <Tom_itx> what sort of file do you upload to it?
[01:57:36] <Tom_itx> yes it has usb
[01:58:14] <Tom_itx> i don't see mesaflash in the 7i43 dir though
[01:59:20] <pcw_home> I'm not sure mesaflash supports EPP flashing anything but 7I90s now (but the 7I43 should be easy to add)
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[01:59:47] <pcw_home> if you want to, current is probably easier to use USB and windows
[01:59:57] <pcw_home> currently
[02:00:17] <Tom_itx> is it the same utility as found in the 5i25 directories?
[02:00:29] <pcw_home> in all cases its a bootstrap process
[02:00:49] <pcw_home> yes same utility for PCI/PCIE/Ethernet/EPP
[02:01:59] <Tom_itx> easier done in windows or linux?
[02:02:09] <pcw_home> (maybe serial as well, currently trying to finish serhm2 for a customer using 7I90s)
[02:02:25] <pcw_home> and SPI...
[02:02:51] <Tom_itx> what is mflash.exe in the dos directory?
[02:02:52] <pcw_home> easier done in windows since the utility is there
[02:03:09] <pcw_home> for the 7I43
[02:03:56] <pcw_home> mflash will do it as well (under DOS) or the older SC7I43P and SCM7I43P
[02:04:01] <Tom_itx> are there docs explaining mesaflash?
[02:04:26] <pcw_home> it has some help: mesaflash --help
[02:04:31] <Tom_itx> ok
[02:08:36] <Tom_itx> where would i find the latest firmware file for it?
[02:09:09] <pcw_home> firmware?
[02:09:11] <Tom_itx> i43cpld5.jed?
[02:09:32] <Tom_itx> err 4
[02:09:52] <pcw_home> thats the CPLD "firmware"
[02:10:06] <Tom_itx> that's not what i want to update?
[02:10:13] <pcw_home> that _does_ require JTAG
[02:10:20] <Tom_itx> i figured it probably did
[02:10:30] <pcw_home> no you just use normal bitfiles
[02:10:32] <Tom_itx> i may have an old jtag that would work
[02:10:39] <Tom_itx> on an old dev board for xilinx i have
[02:11:32] <Tom_itx> i better just leave it. i'd probably just screw it up
[02:11:47] <pcw_home> I dont understand what you are trying to do
[02:12:18] <Tom_itx> i'm just poking around a bit
[02:12:27] <Tom_itx> nothing really required
[02:12:38] <Tom_itx> just trying to learn a bit more about them
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[02:13:15] <pcw_home> if you move your 7I43 jumpers for flash config I think you will find that it autoconfigs
[02:13:31] <Tom_itx> one thing might be a newer sserial driver
[02:13:45] <Tom_itx> firmware
[02:13:57] <Tom_itx> not that it's needed really
[02:14:04] <Tom_itx> just trying to learn the process
[02:14:11] <pcw_home> (theres _some kind of bitfile_ installed for test)
[02:15:08] <pcw_home> ver 43 is the latest released sserial host firmware
[02:15:30] <Tom_itx> i don't remember what mine was, 41 maybe
[02:15:49] <Tom_itx> i'd have to check for sure
[02:16:09] <pcw_home> the source in the zip has 43
[02:16:54] <pcw_home> you would need to remove sslbprom41 and add sslbprom43 from your source list to update
[02:17:22] <pcw_home> everything after 40 has been pretty minor
[02:18:16] <Tom_itx> where are those located?
[02:19:40] <pcw_home> in the source zip file
[02:19:58] <pcw_home> sslbprom43.vhd is the latest
[02:20:10] <Tom_itx> i'll dig a bit deeper
[02:20:50] <Tom_itx> i must not have it unzipped yet
[02:21:01] <skunkworks> pcw_home: does the mesaflash work for 12.04 or do I need to build it from source?
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[02:21:43] <pcw_home> i just built it
[02:21:53] <pcw_home> takes about 1 second
[02:22:01] <Tom_itx> me or skunkworks?
[02:22:03] <skunkworks> ok - no suprises?
[02:22:20] <skunkworks> I remember having to edit the source the last time I tried.
[02:22:28] <pcw_home> let me dig up micges sources
[02:22:43] <pcw_home> I had to type make
[02:22:50] <skunkworks> heh
[02:24:08] <pcw_home> freeby.mesaflash.com/mesaflash3.zip is the latest I have
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[02:26:01] <pcw_home> pcw@pcw-G41M-Combo:~/mesaflash$ ./mesaflash --ip=10.10.10.10 --device 7i80 --rpo 0x0d00
[02:26:01] <pcw_home> 0x00000001
[02:26:58] <pcw_home> (watchdog status)
[02:28:53] <Tom_itx> ahh found it
[02:29:43] <Tom_itx> does the sslbprom43.vhd turn into a bit file then you upload that via mesaflash?
[02:29:56] <Tom_itx> via usb or pport
[02:30:07] <pcw_home> Tom_itx: as an interesting exercise you could port HostMot2 to your xilinx dev board
[02:30:18] <Tom_itx> not big enough
[02:30:21] <Tom_itx> it's a tiny chip
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[02:30:29] <Tom_itx> or i might try it
[02:30:32] <pcw_home> make a tiny config
[02:30:39] <skunkworks> pcw_home: I should run that while the hal file is running?
[02:31:06] <pcw_home> should be OK
[02:31:29] <pcw_home> let me try while linuxcnc is running
[02:31:30] <Tom_itx> the sslbprom43 is firmware for the cpld?
[02:31:38] <Tom_itx> where does the hostmot2 stuff load then?
[02:32:05] <pcw_home> sslbprom is just code for an embedded CPU that runs the host part of sserial
[02:32:54] <pcw_home> its easy to get confuse when there is firmware running on the firmware
[02:33:05] <Tom_itx> no kidding
[02:33:11] <Tom_itx> i sorta get it
[02:33:41] <Tom_itx> what is seveni43.xise for?
[02:33:59] <pcw_home> thats the project file for 7I43
[02:34:12] <Tom_itx> does it pull in all ^^ those files?
[02:34:20] <Tom_itx> the sserial and hostmot2 stuff
[02:34:28] <pcw_home> yes (look at it, its text)
[02:34:35] <Tom_itx> k
[02:35:06] <Tom_itx> just a couple files :D
[02:35:32] <pcw_home> the zip file even has the sserial source code but its known to be harmful to look at :-)
[02:35:59] <pcw_home> and the Ethernet source code
[02:36:03] <Tom_itx> is that what andy was messin with?
[02:36:52] <pcw_home> no one sane would mess with anything that low level
[02:39:43] <pcw_home> skunkworks:
[02:39:44] <pcw_home> pcw@pcw-G41M-Combo:~/mesaflash$ ./mesaflash --ip=10.10.10.10 --device 7i80 --rpo 0x0d00
[02:39:46] <pcw_home> 0x00000000
[02:39:47] <pcw_home> (watchdog status with linuxcnc running)
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[02:42:35] <skunkworks> ok
[02:42:56] <pcw_home> pcw@pcw-G41M-Combo:~/mesaflash$ ./mesaflash --ip=10.10.10.10 --device 7i80 --rpo 0x0d00
[02:42:57] <pcw_home> 0x00000001
[02:42:59] <pcw_home> (after exiting linuxcnc)
[02:44:07] <skunkworks> so - if it shows 0x000000 while linuxcnc is running - then it isn't comunicating correctly with hal?
[02:44:47] <pcw_home> 0x00000000 is good it means the WD has not bit
[02:46:22] <pcw_home> thats what I was talking about earlier, somehow you had 0xFFFFFF00 data which is impossible
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[02:48:07] <pcw_home> so an independent reading of the watchdog status register at 0x0d00 seems in order
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[02:55:03] <skunkworks> does the ouput of configure give the versions of the installed dependencies? could that be used to compare what we have?
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[03:02:04] <pcw_home> http://pastebin.ca/2521565
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[03:04:40] <pcw_home> command line is the one from the script:
[03:04:42] <pcw_home> ./configure --with-rt-preempt --enable-drivers --without-libmodbus
[03:08:21] <skunkworks> yes - that is what I used also - I will compare tomorrow
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[03:23:29] <Tom_itx> pcw_home what's the difference between the hm2epp and the hm2epps projects?
[03:24:59] <pcw_home> hm2eep is for 7I43, hm2eeps is for 7I90
[03:25:01] <pcw_home> They could have been combined but there are enough differences to be a nuisance
[03:25:41] <Tom_itx> ok
[03:26:10] <pcw_home> s is standalone (you cannot bootstrap a 7I90 with no FPGA config except by JTAG)
[03:27:08] <pcw_home> (one reason the 7I90 has 2 flash chips so you have to make two mistakes before you brick the card)
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[03:29:59] <skunkworks> can you recover them if people send them back?
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[03:30:12] <Tom_itx> with jtag probably
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[03:33:12] <pcw_home> sure though its very uncommon
[03:34:17] <pcw_home> on spartan6 you also have fallback so if you say pull the PC plug when
[03:34:18] <pcw_home> updating the firmware, the FPGA will boot from its fallback config
[03:34:43] <pcw_home> (true of 7I90 as well)
[03:34:58] <Tom_itx> what happens if you leave the use work.@card@.all enabled as well as the similar card line? does it build all the bit files?
[03:35:21] <pcw_home> Only with the correct batch file
[03:36:22] <pcw_home> (which replaces @card@ and @PIN@ with items from a list)
[03:37:11] <Tom_itx> what file would i need to build if i were to want to update to the 43 firmware?
[03:37:25] <Tom_itx> the hm2epp project or something else?
[03:37:45] <pcw_home> hm2epp or 7i43
[03:38:01] <Tom_itx> i notice it pulls in the sslbprom43 file
[03:38:43] <Tom_itx> how does that get uploaded differently than a regular bit file then?
[03:38:45] <pcw_home> yes it should
[03:39:13] <Tom_itx> and what do i need to change to build that instead of a bit file?
[03:40:36] <pcw_home> you dont build it you just build your bitfile (and if it uses sserial, it will incorporate sslbp43 just like any other source file)
[03:40:48] <Tom_itx> hmm
[03:41:05] <Tom_itx> i didn't check the ver after adding sserial to them
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[03:42:05] <pcw_home> if you build with sslbprom43 you will see your sserial version changeto 43 in dmesg
[03:42:17] <Tom_itx> guess i'll have to check that
[03:43:39] <pcw_home> somewhere theres a disassembler for that code...
[03:44:25] <pcw_home> as an aside you can load new sserial firmware live
[03:45:26] <pcw_home> (we do to avoid having to re-compile the FPGA for every code change when developing)
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[03:46:30] <Tom_itx> i suppose that takes a while
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[03:47:42] <pcw_home> It takes seconds to assemble the sserial source but minutes to re-compile the FPGA bitfile
[03:48:10] <atom1> yeah it's showing ver 43 for sserial
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[03:48:56] <atom1> i think it was 41 before i downloaded the new zip
[03:50:09] <pcw_home> sserial is pretty stable now I dont anticipate many changes unless we add features
[03:50:23] <atom1> how full is the fpga with a decent size config?
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[03:53:06] <pcw_home> Not sure what a decent size config is but really depends on whats there
[03:53:08] <pcw_home> (resolver, sserial,stepgen,encoder,pwmgen is about the rough size sequence (large to small) )
[03:54:07] <pcw_home> (and of course sserial # of channels affects size as each channel needs a UART)
[03:55:58] <pcw_home> even the 5I20 (smallest HostMot capable FPGA card we make)
[03:55:59] <pcw_home> can have sserial (but not resolver, just too big/too much ROM/RAM)
[03:56:26] <Tom_itx> is the 5i25 larger in size?
[03:56:56] <Tom_itx> i know it was made to be an 'affordable' alternative for alot of systems
[03:58:59] <pcw_home> Yes the FPGA on the 5I25 is bigger then the Spartan3 400K
[03:59:20] <skunkworks> how big is the 7i80-16?
[03:59:34] <pcw_home> bigger still...
[03:59:37] <skunkworks> cool
[03:59:54] <pcw_home> maybe about 4 5I20s
[04:00:08] <skunkworks> if I can get it working - it may do some resolver work
[04:00:46] <skunkworks> *when I get it working
[04:00:53] <Tom_itx> there ya go...
[04:01:03] <pcw_home> I have some work to do before the 7I80 will work with resolvers
[04:02:02] <pcw_home> (its clock low is 100MHZ and the resolver code expects 50 MHz)
[04:02:06] <Tom_itx> do you guys assemble your own boards or farm them out?
[04:02:14] <skunkworks> no rush :)
[04:02:28] <pcw_home> we do no assembly
[04:04:00] <Tom_itx> thanks for all the info, i'm sure you get tired of answering all the silly questions
[04:04:12] <Tom_itx> i'm out for today...
[04:04:15] <pcw_home> not at all
[04:04:20] <pcw_home> 'nite
[04:04:38] <pcw_home> me too
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[04:20:34] <JerAgon> Hello linuxcnc developers?...
[04:21:12] <skunkworks> ask your question
[04:22:06] <JerAgon> Have some questions regarding compiling linuxcnc source to an executable
[04:22:49] <JerAgon> Does that make any sense?
[04:23:23] <cradek> ?
[04:23:54] <cradek> what is the problem?
[04:25:38] <cradek> goodnight
[04:27:34] <JerAgon> I have compiled to run in place, but can get it to make as executable?
[04:45:21] <eric_unterhausen> I think the difference is only paths
[04:49:56] <eric_unterhausen> run in place makes an executable file, so I assume that's not really what you wanted to ask
[04:57:20] <JerAgon> I have run through all of the wiki's how to's. They see to very, but this is the just of what I have been doing all with similar results; "all run in place". I would like to be able to compile and have it as packaged. Following are the step I have taken:1. cd linuxcnc-dev/src 2. autogen.sh 3. ./configure # enable run in place 4. make 5. make install-menu 6. sudo make install#, and setuid.
[04:58:12] <JerAgon> Thanks for your help
[05:06:27] <eric_unterhausen> ./configure with no arguments puts everything in the directory structure defined by the git pull
[05:06:50] <eric_unterhausen> --enable-run-in-place is the default
[05:07:23] <eric_unterhausen> looks like ./configure --prefix=prefix is the opposite of run in place
[05:07:40] <eric_unterhausen> I think you have to make install and then make menu-install, that could be wrong though
[05:13:06] <JerAgon> Thanks again! All of this is completly knew to me. I'll try it and let you know.
[05:17:14] <JerAgon> one thing to clarify, would I use the sudo make install?
[05:18:03] <JerAgon> or just make install?
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[06:03:28] <eric_unterhausen> usually have to sudo make install
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[12:05:11] <memleak> might be a dumb question but did mhaberler's xenomai / preempt_rt hit master?
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[12:23:40] <memleak> nevermind i dont see it
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[12:43:21] <skunkworks> logger[mah],
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[12:46:20] <skunkworks> I don't see anything out of the ordinary
[12:46:21] <skunkworks> http://pastebin.ca/2522230
[12:46:40] <skunkworks> compared to peters..
http://pastebin.ca/2521565
[12:51:58] <skunkworks> I am assuming freeby.mesaflash.com/mesaflash3.zip is not the correct url
[12:52:04] <skunkworks> but freeby.mesanet.com/mesaflash3.zip
[12:52:07] <skunkworks> doesn't work either
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[13:49:19] <skunkworks> pcw_home, The mesaflash utility shows 0x00000001 when linuxcnc is not running
[13:49:20] <skunkworks> when running - and I have a long enough timeout.. I get a glimps of 0x00000000
[13:49:31] <skunkworks> but the second the timeout expires it goes back to 0x00000001
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[14:22:18] <pcw_home> I fixed the mesaflash3.zip link
[14:23:47] <skunkworks> ok - did you see - it seems to show correctly. But something is tripping it or it isn't getting read correclty...
[14:24:00] <skunkworks> in linuxcnc
[14:25:23] <skunkworks> (and this card worked with rtnet - so I don't think it is the card..)
[14:32:39] <pcw_home> So how does the hm2 driver get 0xFFFFFF00 out of 0x00000000 0r 0x00000001?
[14:34:34] <pcw_home> since the 7I80 is sending the right data?
[14:34:35] <pcw_home> some kind of bad include library (maybe the same one that breaks the preemt_rt latency test)
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[14:38:40] <pcw_home> skunkworks: do you have a link to micges patched etherhm2.c (with the read/write data included in the log)?
[14:38:44] <pcw_home> I can try it here and see what data is returned in the same section
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[14:44:20] <skunkworks_> http://pastebin.ca/2520971
[14:44:28] <skunkworks_> pcw_home, I think that is it.
[14:50:56] <pcw_home> Thanks
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[15:19:35] <pcw_home> Jan 2 07:12:21 pcw-G41M-Combo msgd:0: hal_lib:29023:rt hm2/hm2_7i76e.0: registered
[15:19:35] <pcw_home> Jan 2 07:12:21 pcw-G41M-Combo msgd:0: hal_lib:29023:rt board 7I76E-16 registred succesfully
[15:19:35] <pcw_home> Jan 2 07:12:21 pcw-G41M-Combo msgd:0: hal_lib:29023:rt hm2_eth: read() : PACKET SENDED [CMD:8142 | ADDR: 0D00 | SIZE: 4]
[15:19:35] <pcw_home> Jan 2 07:12:21 pcw-G41M-Combo msgd:0: hal_lib:29023:rt hm2_eth: read() : PACKET READED [DATA:00000000 | SIZE: 4]
[15:19:36] <pcw_home> Jan 2 07:12:21 pcw-G41M-Combo msgd:0: hal_lib:29023:rt hm2_eth: write(): PACKET SENDED [CMD:81C2 | ADDR: 0C00 | SIZE: 4]
[15:19:38] <pcw_home> Jan 2 07:12:21 pcw-G41M-Combo msgd:0: hal_lib:29023:rt hm2_eth: write(): PACKET SENDED [CMD:81C2 | ADDR: 0D00 | SIZE: 4]
[15:19:52] <pcw_home> so my data looks as expected
[15:20:07] * archivist loves the sended and readed
[15:20:50] <pcw_home> well it probably sounds right in Polish
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[15:25:18] <skunkworks_> so - when I read back I get FFFFFF00
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[15:29:00] <skunkworks_> is that data in another register or something?
[15:31:10] <skunkworks_> http://pastebin.ca/2520973?srch=empire+sended
[15:31:30] <skunkworks_> It reads it right initally...
[15:31:58] <skunkworks_> Jan 1 17:14:37 empire-OptiPlex-380 msgd:0: hal_lib:9536:rt board 7I80HD-16 registred succesfully
[15:31:59] <skunkworks_> Jan 1 17:14:37 empire-OptiPlex-380 msgd:0: hal_lib:9536:rt hm2_eth: read() : PACKET SENDED [CMD:8142 | ADDR: 0D00 | SIZE: 4]
[15:31:59] <skunkworks_> Jan 1 17:14:37 empire-OptiPlex-380 msgd:0: hal_lib:9536:rt hm2_eth: read() : PACKET READED [DATA:00000000 | SIZE: 4]
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[15:50:30] <pcw_home> Dont know (or see how anding 0xFFFFFF00 and 1 is true)
[15:50:30] <pcw_home> look like something just gets broken there
[15:50:37] <pcw_home> looks
[15:52:30] <pcw_home> if you ever read 0xFFFFFF00 deom 0x0d00 via mesaflash I would suspect the 7I80
[15:52:33] <pcw_home> but this looks more like data corruption in the driver or something similar
[15:52:41] <pcw_home> s/deom/from/
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[16:54:42] <skunkworks_> could you hook up to my card over the internet? ;)
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[17:00:23] <pcw_home> Yes
[17:01:08] <skunkworks_> with linuxcnc?
[17:01:31] <pcw_home> well at 5 Hz maybe
[17:01:39] <skunkworks_> heh
[17:02:19] <skunkworks_> I don't know what steps I did different... I looked at the configure output and nothing jumped out/
[17:02:21] <pcw_home> hm2_eth doesn't deal with packet loss gracefully yet either
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[17:05:18] <pcw_home> it looks like the driver has gone funny somehow
[17:05:22] <skunkworks_> Is your install updated?
[17:05:53] <pcw_home> updated?
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[17:06:29] <skunkworks_> I installed from the 12.04.3 cd and then did all the updates it found before I installed the kernel/linuxcnc
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[17:07:55] <skunkworks_> (did not isntall any closed source drivers)
[17:08:00] <pcw_home> I wonder if i can make a CF image or something so we are an the exact same page
[17:09:06] <pcw_home> Both systems I have have been through a checkered past so maybe I should do a stock 12.03 and run that script
[17:09:53] <pcw_home> one was Ubuntu server/xenomai/rt-preemt
[17:09:54] <pcw_home> the other was updated from 8.04
[17:10:00] <skunkworks_> wow
[17:10:13] <skunkworks_> could you do that?
[17:10:36] <pcw_home> yeah, took a while...
[17:11:26] <skunkworks_> it would be an interesting test. But I wonnder what andy and micges used
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[17:11:50] <pcw_home> dont know
[17:12:01] <skunkworks_> are there rtpreemt kernels for 10.04?
[17:13:53] <pcw_home> I should have said I updated from 10.04 not 8.04
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[17:14:24] <pcw_home> the 10.04 started as a liveCD
[17:14:51] <alex_joni> howdy y'all
[17:15:15] <pcw_home> I'm also curious about the latency-test bug under preemt_rt that seems suspicious
[17:15:31] <pcw_home> Hi alex_joni
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[20:55:41] <skunkworks_> pcw_home, did a fresh install of 12.04.1 (something I had here) and installed and build rtpreempt/linuxcnc - nogo
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[20:55:56] <skunkworks_> (didn't update anything)
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[23:55:26] <skunkworks> pcw_home: I think your going to have to do a fresh install - keep track of everything you install.
[23:55:49] <skunkworks> because I don't know what is going on. (As usual)