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[00:08:40] <jthornton> cradek, I see 4 link errors in the build but that is it
[00:09:25] <cradek> what didn't link?
[00:10:47] <jthornton> Error: no ID for constraint linkend: sub:Finding-Maximum-Velocity.
[00:10:56] <jthornton> Error: no ID for constraint linkend: sub:Finding-Maximum-Acceleration.
[00:11:02] <jthornton> Error: no ID for constraint linkend: cap:EMC2-seleccion-de-configuracion.
[00:11:11] <jthornton> Error: no ID for constraint linkend: fig:Remote-Start-Example.
[00:11:19] <cradek> oh different kind of link error!
[00:11:28] <jthornton> but I thought I fixed all the broken links last week
[00:11:39] <jthornton> yes, I think doc links
[00:11:39] <cradek> thanks for trying it for me
[00:11:56] <jthornton> other than that it looks fine from a doc standpoint
[00:12:00] <cradek> cool
[00:12:02] <jthornton> your welcome
[00:12:10] <cradek> now I'll let seb decide whether he wants it
[00:12:44] <jthornton> I assume I should wait for the 2.6 branch to change the doc version?
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[00:13:25] <cradek> sorry I don't know how that works
[00:15:08] <jthornton> it's a manual change in the docs for each master doc, just takes a few minutes
[00:15:29] <jthornton> seems like it should say VMaster until it is branched
[00:15:41] <jthornton> now it says V2.5
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[00:17:42] <cradek> make: *** [../docs/html/hal/intro.html] Error 1
[00:17:53] <cradek> hm I got an error when I tried it here
[00:18:19] <cradek> ... but I don't know whether I could successfully build docs before my change
[00:18:25] <jthornton> sometimes I have to do a make clean if I remove things
[00:19:17] <cradek> argh, w3c-linkchecker wants to install apache
[00:19:24] <cradek> that can't really be needed can it?
[00:20:07] <cradek> huh yep it's an explicit dependency
[00:21:47] <cradek> I only get those broken-link errors in _es
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[00:23:48] <jthornton> I think that is where I fixed them in 2.5 last week
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[00:24:07] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: does swap work for you in 3.4.55-rtai-2? swapon: /dev/sda5: swapon failed: Function not implemented
[00:24:08] <jthornton> he had translated some of the links instead of the link text
[00:24:19] <cradek> ah oops
[00:24:36] <cradek> maybe 2.5 hasn't been merged upward yet?
[00:25:48] <jthornton> that could be
[00:26:00] <cradek> I'm not seeing your change...?
[00:26:30] <cradek> maybe you didn't push 'em
[00:27:28] <jthornton> hmm I don't see them either in 2.5
[00:27:53] <jthornton> oh I did it in master
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[00:28:42] <jthornton> 2013-11-23
[00:29:40] <jthornton> eab3c4b8778f910a783f705049965fd9ceafd56d
[00:29:55] <jthornton> finally figured out how to copy the id
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[00:35:31] <cradek> but that is in both master and remove-freqgen
[00:36:14] <jthornton> hmmm
[00:37:59] <jthornton> I don't see that commit in remove-freqgen on my local
[00:39:40] <jthornton> but I see it on git.linuxcnc.org
[00:39:55] <jthornton> in the remove-freqgen branch
[00:39:57] <dgarr> cradek: updating dallur-thc/README to indicate the breakage and moving to attic makes sense to me
[00:40:10] <cradek> jthornton: I did this: git branch --contains eab3c4b8778f910a783f705049965fd9ceafd56d
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[00:40:47] <jthornton> I was looking in git gui
[00:41:07] <dgarr> ju-emb: you may need the package glade-gtk2 on precise/quantal and the program may be named /usr/bin/glade-gtk2
[00:41:37] <ju-emb> yes I know that
[00:41:41] <jthornton> well now it shows up in git gui
[00:42:15] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05remove-freqgen 427cf65 06linuxcnc 10configs/dallur-thc/README Warn that this config is broken by freqgen removal * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=427cf65
[00:43:02] <ju-emb> dgarr: I just did a cleanup on my machine here to have all like it should be on 12.04
[00:43:32] <jthornton> building again to be sure
[00:43:42] <ju-emb> now I'll try
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[01:06:07] <ju-emb> if lcnc is runinplace, I need rip_environment right?
[01:06:10] <ju-emb> and if I configure with
[01:06:12] <ju-emb> --prefix=/usr/local
[01:06:14] <ju-emb> and
[01:06:16] <ju-emb> sudo make install
[01:06:18] <ju-emb> where are those environment variables set or are they not necessary?
[01:06:33] <cradek> yes; not necessary
[01:06:52] <cradek> but I don't recommend make install. use the package manager.
[01:07:21] <ju-emb> I'm playing around, it's not a production machione
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[03:40:25] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: nice catch, swap is turned off in this kernel config
[03:40:32] <seb_kuzminsky> i'll update it
[03:41:17] <seb_kuzminsky> and i'll try not to mess up the version numbers this time :-/
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[07:49:30] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Morley 05master 76416e9 06linuxcnc 10share/gscreen/skins/gaxis/gaxis.glade 10share/gscreen/skins/gaxis/gaxis_handler.py gaxis -add spindle override and system debug tools * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=76416e9
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[09:40:04] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Michael Haberler 05unified-build-candidate-3 32e92ac 06linuxcnc 53 commits pushed, 10178 files changed, 0321148(+), 0418334(-)
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[09:58:39] <archivist> impossible to debug bug, when I start linuxcnc it gets part way through starting but then the box hangs, only the mouse pointer is left moving
[10:01:28] <archivist> same error with sim configurations
[10:01:57] <archivist> latency test runs, 2.5.3
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[10:06:52] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1566 of hardy-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed configuring configure] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-amd64-sim/builds/1566 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Michael Haberler <git@mah.priv.at>, Andy Pugh <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Chris Radek
[10:06:52] <linuxcnc-build_> <chris@timeguy.com>, John Thornton <jthornton@gnipsel.com>, Bence Kovacs <bence.kovacs@generalmechatronics.com>, Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Charles Steinkuehler <charles@steinkuehler.net>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[10:15:33] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1564 of hardy-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed configuring configure] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-sim/builds/1564 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Michael Haberler <git@mah.priv.at>, Andy Pugh <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Chris Radek
[10:15:33] <linuxcnc-build_> <chris@timeguy.com>, John Thornton <jthornton@gnipsel.com>, Bence Kovacs <bence.kovacs@generalmechatronics.com>, Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Charles Steinkuehler <charles@steinkuehler.net>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[10:16:14] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1561 of hardy-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed configuring configure] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-realtime-rip/builds/1561 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Michael Haberler <git@mah.priv.at>, Andy Pugh <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Chris Radek
[10:16:14] <linuxcnc-build_> <chris@timeguy.com>, John Thornton <jthornton@gnipsel.com>, Bence Kovacs <bence.kovacs@generalmechatronics.com>, Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Charles Steinkuehler <charles@steinkuehler.net>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[10:36:53] <alex_joni> archivist: even with debug turned up way high?
[10:38:09] <archivist> alex_joni, this is on a clean install from livecd and upgraded, I am not sure if it is the hardware, but other stuff runs
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[10:51:23] <alex_joni> archivist: odd
[10:51:46] <alex_joni> but I was suggesting turning on debug real high, start from a terminal, and maybe spot where it hangs
[10:51:55] <alex_joni> also try a ssh connection, see if that hangs too
[10:52:26] <archivist> http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2013/2013_12_16_linuxcnc_crash/IMG_1718.JPG
[10:52:46] <archivist> camera is the only way :)
[10:52:58] <alex_joni> does glxgears run?
[10:53:06] <alex_joni> try a tklinuxcnc sim config
[10:53:13] <alex_joni> looks like a GL issue
[10:54:14] <archivist> have to power cycle to get in again......
[10:54:37] <alex_joni> ctrl-alt-backspace ?
[10:54:51] <alex_joni> or other X-killing/changing stuff?
[10:55:04] <alex_joni> usually mouse is dead too on a complete freeze
[10:55:13] <alex_joni> try ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a text console
[10:56:21] <archivist> back up and glxgears and latency test running together
[10:57:15] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1566 of checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/1566 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Michael Haberler <git@mah.priv.at>, Andy Pugh <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Chris Radek <chris@timeguy.com>, John Thornton
[10:57:16] <linuxcnc-build_> <jthornton@gnipsel.com>, Bence Kovacs <bence.kovacs@generalmechatronics.com>, Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Charles Steinkuehler <charles@steinkuehler.net>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[11:06:41] <alex_joni> archivist: bummer.. then try tklinuxcnc
[11:10:00] <alex_joni> also .. I'd leave a terminal window open with 'tail -f /var/log/messages'
[11:10:09] <alex_joni> to see if there's a kernel oops or something
[11:13:27] <archivist> looks like tklinuxcnc does not come with standard
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[11:22:45] <archivist> those keyboard short cuts dont work in this state, no sensible tail -f /var/log/messages at the crash/hang either, windows was failing to start before I partitioned the hard disk so I am suspicious, memtest was ok though
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[11:48:25] <micges> archivist: pastebin your dmesg after pc start
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[11:55:24] <archivist> http://pastebin.ca/2508265
[12:01:43] <micges> nothing suspicious..
[12:03:01] <micges> on one of my pc hangs was caused by graphic board, but there was many of errors in dmesg
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[12:05:09] <archivist> I think as its a "free issue put linux on it for me" pc he can have it back, costing too much time
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[12:06:42] <archivist> I do hate the getting stuff installed on a random pc stage
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[14:53:32] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: did you build that new kernel? I'm still seeing the buildbot debs depending on rtai-2
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[14:54:24] <skunkworks> That seb.. I just don't know...
[14:55:00] <cradek> I don't think so, unless it's somewhere other than http://highlab.com/~seb/linuxcnc/rtai-for-3.4-prerelease/
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[15:13:38] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: I recommend merging dgarr/config-cleanup and remove-freqgen (and moving dallur-thc to attic because remove-freqgen makes it known-broken). I've done a test merge and it works nicely. If you say the word I'll push it.
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[15:30:13] <skunkworks_> logger[mah],
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[15:43:30] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: please push! thanks for doing that work
[15:43:36] <seb_kuzminsky> the new rtai kernel is on its way
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[15:46:04] <seb_kuzminsky> i built the new kernel, and i kept its package name as linux-image-3.4.55-rtai-2 so the linuxcnc dependency doesnt break, and i bumped the package version number from 2 to 3 to differentiate them
[15:46:35] <seb_kuzminsky> now when i install the -rtai-2_3 package it complains (correctly, i suppose) about replacing the running kernel...
[15:46:51] <seb_kuzminsky> we should figure out something smarter to do with the linuxcnc dependency on the kernel
[15:47:12] <cradek> can you put these in apt-space somewhere so upgrade works?
[15:47:36] <cradek> yeah I don't know how that's supposed to work, or if it would be different given ubc merge
[15:48:13] <cradek> (and you're welcome, but most of the work was dgarr's)
[15:48:17] <seb_kuzminsky> i'll push them to the deb archive at w.l.o within the next 5 minutes
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[15:57:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05master 2fd8b7f 06linuxcnc Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/remove-freqgen' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=2fd8b7f
[15:57:11] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05master ba0aeae 06linuxcnc 10(5 files in 5 dirs) Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/dgarr/config-cleanup' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba0aeae
[15:57:11] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05master b44dddd 06linuxcnc 10(18 files in 2 dirs) Move dallur-thc to attic, pending maintenance * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b44dddd
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[15:59:48] <seb_kuzminsky> thx
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[16:01:59] <seb_kuzminsky> the rsync of the new deb archive to w.l.o is finished, please upgrade, but note that it'll warn about replacing the running kernel :-/
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[16:02:30] <cradek> does doing that work ok? I'm remote.
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[16:14:09] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah it should be fine
[16:14:22] <seb_kuzminsky> i've done a remote upgrade & reboot and it came up with swap
[16:14:54] <seb_kuzminsky> and the old runtests (compiled with the -rtai-2_2 kernel) still passed, so i think its ok
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[16:15:07] <seb_kuzminsky> a new cradek appears
[16:15:28] <seb_kuzminsky> the remote upgrade should work cradek_
[16:15:40] <cradek_> thanks
[16:15:51] <cradek_> I wonder why there are two of me.
[16:16:24] <seb_kuzminsky> shades of "The man who folded himself"
[16:17:05] <cradek_> I looked through the kernel config for other surprises, but I very much doubt my ability to spot them
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[16:18:10] <seb_kuzminsky> hopefully our users will let us know
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[16:19:30] <cradek_> that's my least favorite way to find problems
[16:19:43] <cradek_> most effective, though
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[17:38:57] <IchGuckLive> hi someone on gladevcp im stuck it runs in standalone but not on mashine ini call
[17:39:34] <IchGuckLive> is there a name limit so ui py ini niedts to be the same in the mahine folder
[17:43:05] <cmorley> can you post more info eg the call in the ini?
[17:43:21] <cmorley> and the error message if there is one
[17:43:32] <IchGuckLive> GLADEVCP= -u test.py test.ui
[17:45:29] <IchGuckLive> Embeded tab command "halcmd loadusr -Wn gladevcp gladevcp -c gladevcp -x 83886238 -u test.py test.ui" exited with error: 1
[17:46:44] <cmorley> Try using an absolute path
[17:47:02] <cmorley> how did you test as a standalone?
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[17:47:03] <IchGuckLive> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOJhT69WEc im trying to integread this features
[17:47:32] <IchGuckLive> ./features.py --ini=/home/sammel/linuxcnc/configs/sim/axis1/sim_lathe.ini
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[17:49:13] <cmorley> Thats a very cool feature
[17:49:17] <IchGuckLive> https://github.com/cnc-club/linuxcnc-features
[17:49:29] <IchGuckLive> we shoudt integread this in 2.6
[17:49:42] <IchGuckLive> fore lathe must have i woudt say
[17:50:05] <cmorley> did you try using an absolute path in the ini?
[17:50:16] <IchGuckLive> its like the (810D
[17:51:01] <cmorley> sorry I don't follow :)
[17:51:52] <cmorley> We have ngcgui have you tried that?
[17:52:37] <IchGuckLive> no
[17:55:05] <IchGuckLive> cmorley: http://pastebin.com/cZTB77pP
[17:55:54] <IchGuckLive> cycle featuers are always good
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[17:57:21] <cmorley> This is the error you get from using gladevcp with INI?
[17:57:30] <IchGuckLive> yes
[17:57:44] <IchGuckLive> i think its not loaded correct
[17:58:50] <cmorley> I'm just guessing here - but did you 'make clean' before you did 'make'?
[17:59:11] <IchGuckLive> i did not make at all
[17:59:29] <IchGuckLive> i just kopied the files and made the sym link
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[18:01:51] <jepler> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.devel/10485
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[18:03:24] <cmorley> lol thats kinda funny.
[18:04:35] <cmorley> It that case Jeff pointed out - I had left over files from testing pyncggui, so gladevcp was trying to register two pyngcguis.
[18:05:49] <jepler> there does not seem to be a "class Feature" in linuxcnc (checked at b44dddd in master branch) the problem arises in your code.
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[18:08:21] <IchGuckLive> i added featuers
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[18:13:23] <IchGuckLive> from calculatorwidget import Calculator
[18:13:25] <IchGuckLive> from features import Features
[18:13:27] <IchGuckLive> in gedit /usr/share/pyshared/gladevcp/hal_pythonplugin.py
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[18:14:40] <cmorley> Yes if it works stand alone mode then the problem is subtle. Thinking....
[18:16:15] <IchGuckLive> <glade-widget-class-ref name="Features"/> all seams to work fine
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[18:20:46] <cmorley> can you add -d to gladevcp command to see if it gives more info?
[18:22:00] <IchGuckLive> ok
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[18:25:59] <cmorley> As Jeff pointed out there must be two features registering. is features.py in two places?
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[18:26:53] <cmorley> There is on in /home/sammel/gladevcplathe/features.py for sure
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[18:28:16] <cmorley> or are there two system links to it?
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[18:31:40] <IchGuckLive> its there how do i check for 2 symlinnks
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[18:36:23] <cmorley> could probably just look. If there are then you added them.
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[19:22:04] <skunkworks_> http://imagebin.org/282644
[19:22:16] <skunkworks_> http://imagebin.org/282645
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[19:33:18] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Norbert Schechner 05master e0e65f1 06linuxcnc 10(7 files in 2 dirs) gmoccapy_0_9_9_6_2 - new plasma operation panel * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0e65f1
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[20:22:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05master cd7c804 06linuxcnc 10tcl/bin/pickconfig.tcl pickconfig: bugfix for debug_pickconfig * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd7c804
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[20:24:15] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: got swap!
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[20:35:08] <skunkworks_> cradek, I tested your acc patch and it seems to fix it..
[20:35:19] <skunkworks_> finally
[20:35:41] <skunkworks_> (finally tested it - not that you finally fixed it)
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[20:53:11] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05master ed8606f 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/gmoccapy/gmoccapy_plasma/gmoccapy_plasma.ini 10configs/sim/gmoccapy/gmoccapy_plasma/macros sim/gmoccapy/gmoccapy_plasma update * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed8606f
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[20:58:54] <dgarr> norbert: commit ed8606f1 is intended to configure gmoccapy_plasma deb installs using the new config structure, please the the commit message for more info
[20:58:54] <dgarr>
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[22:12:58] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05master 02d35e6 06linuxcnc 10(5 files in 4 dirs) configs: symlinks for more config dirs * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=02d35e6
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[22:13:30] <dgarr> i hope that is the last of that, will check deb too
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[22:21:19] <andypugh> Has anyone else noticed that Axis has a tendency to forget how to open the tool editor?
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[22:34:24] <andypugh> Why does Touchy open a hard-coded "touchy.hal" file rather than looking in the INI like a good little GUI?
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[23:03:51] <cmorley> TOUCHY should do both
[23:12:33] <andypugh> Yes, I saw your commit. But it would be neater if touchy.hal was an INI entry, not a hard-code.
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[23:54:27] <cmorley> Yes I agree but TOUCHY isn't mine and I thought it best not to break configs (but still wanted it consistent with other GUIs. Chris R is the guy to talk to.
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