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[00:05:51] <seb_kuzm1nsky> hm2-buildmaster: force build build
[00:05:56] <hm2-buildmaster> build #7 forced
[00:05:56] <hm2-buildmaster> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[00:06:01] <seb_kuzm1nsky> that felt like a silly thing to say
[00:06:09] <seb_kuzm1nsky> bbl
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[00:29:30] <hm2-buildmaster> Hey! build build #7 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[00:29:30] <hm2-buildmaster> Build details are at
http://localhost:8020/builders/build/builds/7
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[01:38:12] <andypugh> A thought... The CNC menu for Pncconf perhaps ought to call it "Mesa card config wizard"
[01:40:52] <pcw_home> Or use hal pins like I suggested before it was even started...
[01:44:33] <andypugh> How it is called out in the menu is a different issue.
[01:45:35] <andypugh> But you really did pull the rug out from under Chris' feet with your Smart-serial and lots of new cards. He thought he had a simple and well contained system to handle :-)
[01:48:24] <pcw_home> I never intended that there be standard configurations...
[01:50:23] <andypugh> The paradigm should have been one of interogating attached hardware from the start.
[01:50:51] <pcw_home> Thats is the HM2 paradigm
[01:51:42] <andypugh> One day I might look at making it easier to interrogate the hardware without actually trying to run it.
[01:52:19] <pcw_home> whats missing is some configuration agnostic metadata for a more flexible hal file generator
[01:53:56] <pcw_home> (the halcmd show -xml option)
[01:54:50] <pcw_home> and a file that knows some boilerplate affinities for various hal pins
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[05:52:00] <cmorley> An easy way to interrogate the system which returns pin names sorted by function would be helpful.
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[17:39:54] <seb_kuzminsky> here's the hm2 buildbot
[17:40:06] <seb_kuzminsky> buildbot's apt source line: deb
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/hm2 hm2-firmware master
[17:40:21] <seb_kuzminsky> if you install the latest hostmot2-firmware-all from there (the one that built last night), it'll pull in all the others
[17:40:53] <seb_kuzminsky> still no "hostmot2-firmware" package like linuxcnc.deb depends on
[17:40:59] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl breakfast
[17:42:33] <cradek> I'll do it, thanks
[17:48:11] <cradek> aha it pulls them all in now, yay
[17:48:45] <cradek> ha, for 5i25 I don't need them at all, do I
[17:49:39] <skunkworks> heh - I don't think so.
[17:49:59] <cradek> well anyway, by my floundering I can help find problems
[17:50:10] <cradek> and seb always seems smart enough to fix them
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[18:16:18] <skunkworks> That is about all I am good for...
[18:16:27] <skunkworks> (floundering)
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[21:13:47] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Morley 05master 5b46485 06linuxcnc 10share/gscreen/skins/gaxis/gaxis.glade gaxis -fix single axis homing for Y and Z axis * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b46485
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[21:45:36] <cradek> hm, on the first page trying to use pncconf, I'm stuck. I think this pulldown is where I'd select the model of my card, but it's disabled/empty
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[21:50:50] <cradek> and we don't have a 5i25 sample config
[21:54:05] <skunkworks> I think you have to get the xml from the forum.
[21:54:13] <skunkworks> jt has a sample config.
[21:54:29] <cradek> oh for one thing, it's programmed with 7i74x2.bit which is totally wrong for my previously-parport setup
[21:55:00] <cradek> found jt's site, but it's for some 7ixx that I don't have
[21:55:13] <cradek> I just want it to work like two (smarter) parports
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[21:55:35] <cradek> well actually, one smarter parport and then more IO on the second connector
[21:56:09] <cradek> from the manual, looks like I probably want PROB_RFX2
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[22:05:09] <cradek> hm, this kernel is not PAE
[22:05:15] <cradek> wonder if that's good or bad
[22:11:08] <pcw_home> Theres a Rutex config as well (I think step/dir are swapped relative to Probotix config)
[22:12:30] <cradek> net xdir => parport.0.pin-02-out
[22:12:30] <cradek> net xstep => parport.0.pin-03-out
[22:12:41] <cradek> mine is this way - not sure whose standard it is/was
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[22:15:20] <pcw_home> thats more like the Rutex pinout
[22:16:02] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05master ad6246d 06linuxcnc 10nc_files/daisy.ngc Reuse of these labels is now rejected * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad6246d
[22:17:27] <cradek> pcw_home: is the mesaflash utility used for just the 5i25?
[22:20:50] <cradek> it'd be nice to figure out what we need to do to make the 5i25 a first-class citizen (at least distribute the firmwares and the flash utility?)
[22:21:45] <pcw_home> 5I25, 6I25, (I think all old cards), 7I80, 7I76E, 7I90
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[22:23:54] <pcw_home> And I think Michael was looking at flashing sserial remotes (though that can be done with setserial now)
[22:24:17] <pcw_home> setsserial I mean
[22:24:46] <cradek> is the mesaflash license ok so we can distribute it?
[22:25:27] <pcw_home> sure
[22:26:31] <pcw_home> It should be possible for it to make xml files as well (theres a start with the hm2 option)
[22:26:36] <cradek> wow I have 1854ns latency with isolcpus on memleak's kernel
[22:26:52] <cradek> what are those for?
[22:27:17] <pcw_home> pncconf
[22:27:27] <cradek> oh is that why it wouldn't let me pick a card type?
[22:27:35] <pcw_home> Yes
[22:29:17] <cradek> should we have a hostmot2-firmware-5i25 deb that gives all these firmware options, and it depends on mesaflash?
[22:30:33] <pcw_home> That would make sense, at least until the buildbot gets updated so it can make current bitfiles
[22:30:56] <cradek> isn't it up to date? it just ran yesterday and I've installed them
[22:31:57] <pcw_home> the source is old (though it may not matter for things that dont have sserial/resolver/ethernet)
[22:32:49] <cradek> the builder is working - can you just push an update?
[22:33:07] <pcw_home> the scripts need updating
[22:33:39] <cradek> darn, I'm sensing yet another thing seb has to be the one to do...
[22:33:40] <pcw_home> (different build options, new top level files etc)
[22:34:34] <pcw_home> I have some batch file examples that have the build options
[22:35:56] <pcw_home> It would probably take seb and I about a day of work to update/fix everything
[22:36:24] <cradek> I could probably package mesaflash
[22:36:36] <cradek> the rest sounds like stuff I couldn't be much help with
[22:36:53] <cradek> ... except for testing (I have hardware now)
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[22:37:48] <pcw_home> its just rototilling but there are a lot of fussy options that need to be different for each card type
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[22:38:04] <cradek> understand
[22:39:13] <cradek> whee, I'm now running on old server class hardware with excellent latency and a plethora of parallel and serial ports
[22:39:23] <micges> there will be mesaflash v3 which has packaging code done by seb
[22:39:36] <cradek> hi micges, oh he's already packaged it?
[22:39:52] <pcw_home> I think someone else (Valen?) got really good latency on a Xeon server
[22:40:09] <cradek> yeah that's what this is, dual xeon
[22:40:39] <micges> no, he just writed me code atm
[22:41:01] <cradek> 2165ns so far (15 mins of compiling etc)
[22:41:12] <micges> but he said that package can be at www.linuxcnc.org
[22:41:21] <cradek> yes certainly
[22:41:43] <cradek> it should be with the firmwares that need it
[22:41:49] <micges> I'm still working with the code, it was major rewrite to support all mesa boards
[22:44:08] <cradek> great, I see it's on the Todo, 18.3.
[22:44:34] <micges> currently in zip files there is mf v2
[22:45:42] <cradek> micges: does the Todo have everything important?
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Todo-2.6
[22:46:06] <micges> I think yes
[22:46:41] <micges> but
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[22:47:08] <micges> I don't see hm2_eth entry, which is along with ubc3 intergation
[22:48:04] <cradek> I don't know what that's about - please add to the list if there's something we need to remember
[22:48:28] <micges> will do
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[22:52:30] <micges> ah sorry there is under 11
[22:53:59] <cradek> aha
[22:56:42] <seb_kuzminsky> hi guys
[22:56:48] <alex_joni> hi
[22:57:09] <micges> hi
[22:57:16] <seb_kuzminsky> here's a branch of mesaflash3 that adds debian packaging:
http://git.highlab.com/?p=mesaflash.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/deb
[22:57:37] <seb_kuzminsky> i owe micges some testing that i haven't gotten around to yet, sorry....
[22:58:10] <cradek> hi seb, alex
[22:58:26] <seb_kuzminsky> pcw_home: i'd like to help you update the hm2 firmwares
[22:58:32] <cradek> I have a 5i25 ready for use/testing
[22:58:48] <pcw_home> So how do we start
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[22:59:26] <seb_kuzminsky> i remember we talked about the hostmot2 git repo that the buildbot uses, a while back
[23:00:32] <seb_kuzminsky> i guess we should make a branch for the "stable" version 0.8 that we have now, and do our work on master, then fork off a "1.0" branch when it's getting ready to release
[23:01:12] <pcw_home> OK
[23:02:59] <seb_kuzminsky> i just made a branch called "v0", to track what we have now and make a "v0.9" release if we want/need to
[23:03:12] <seb_kuzminsky> so you can push your stuff to master in that repo, and we'll iron out the bugs there
[23:03:22] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl, going to go play legos with my 7 year old :-)
[23:03:37] <micges> seb_kuzminsky: relax tests are done
[23:04:00] <cradek> pcw_home: if you'll send me a ssh key I'll get push access set up for you
[23:04:11] <pcw_home> Thanks seb
[23:05:21] <pcw_home> with ssh-keygen?
[23:05:56] <cradek> yes ssh-keygen -t dsa; you can enter a passphrase or not when it asks - save the files in the default locations it offers
[23:06:10] <cradek> then send me only the .pub file
[23:06:58] <pcw_home> OK will do at work tomorrow
[23:07:20] <cradek> ok, you can just email it anytime
[23:07:30] <alex_joni> pcw_home: you can copy the non-pub file around on your pcs
[23:07:38] <alex_joni> just keep it very private
[23:09:17] <pcw_home> OK
[23:09:33] <alex_joni> I mean you can use it on all your dev PCs
[23:09:57] <pcw_home> OK just made it
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[23:13:55] <cradek> did you send it? I don't have an email yet.
[23:14:57] <pcw_home> just sent
[23:17:21] <cradek> ok, try it out: git clone ssh://pcw@git.linuxcnc.org/git/hostmot2-firmware.git
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[23:19:55] <pcw_home> Its asking for a password
[23:20:34] <cradek> hm, it shouldn't...
[23:20:58] <cradek> lemme look in the logs
[23:22:00] <cradek> did you save the key files in the default locations?
[23:22:36] <cradek> I'm not seeing anything useful... try ssh -v pcw@git.linuxcnc.org and pastebin the output?
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[23:24:09] <pcw_home> no i had to move them here (didnt think clone would care)
[23:24:45] <cradek> sorry I don't understand - tell me what you did?
[23:24:56] <pcw_home> ok working now
[23:25:07] <cradek> yay
[23:25:47] <pcw_home> i didnt have the key installed (didn't think it was needed for close, just something that changes the repository)
[23:25:54] <pcw_home> clone
[23:26:35] <cradek> oh yeah, it uses ssh for all access by default
[23:31:21] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05remove-freqgen f7eee04 06linuxcnc 10(16 files in 9 dirs) Freqgen has been replaced by stepgen's velocity mode * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7eee04
[23:33:53] <jthornton> YEA!
[23:34:33] <cradek> dgarr: dallur-thc depends on freqgen, so this change would break it [or break it further] - do you think that's reason to move it to the attic?
[23:34:43] <cradek> I was able to clean up all other mentions of freqgen
[23:34:52] <cradek> jthornton: don't get too excited until we see whether it builds :-)
[23:35:39] <jthornton> lol
[23:36:12] <cradek> (I removed files from the docs)
[23:36:47] <jthornton> thanks
[23:37:10] <cradek> heh, you're welcome, but I meant that's why I'm not sure I got it right
[23:38:04] <cradek> now that I expunged that nvidia stuff, I wonder if my big monitor would work again
[23:38:06] <jthornton> let me pull and build
[23:38:21] <cradek> notice it's a new branch remove-freqgen
[23:38:34] <jthornton> ok, I saw that
[23:38:39] <jthornton> thanks for the heads up
[23:39:31] <jthornton> hmm git something branch gets the list of all branches
[23:39:44] <cradek> git fetch; git checkout remove-freqgen
[23:42:31] <jthornton> ah git branch -r
[23:43:16] <ju-emb> cradek: do you know who has made the glade hal-widgets
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[23:43:59] <cradek> ju-emb: I don't understand what you're asking
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[23:44:37] <jthornton> are you asking about gladevcp?
[23:44:53] <ju-emb> yes
[23:47:26] <ju-emb> If I use the old Python libs it somehow works, but it is not stable
[23:47:29] <ju-emb> so I think about going into it and adopt it to the new one
[23:47:50] <ju-emb> the new Python libs
[23:48:00] <jthornton> that be Michael Haberler
[23:48:10] <pcw_home> if you run python, what version do you get
[23:48:10] <jthornton> or mhaberler on here
[23:49:40] <ju-emb> on the machine I'm sitting now I've kind of a mess in versions
[23:50:01] <ju-emb> the new installed machine is in the shop
[23:50:40] <cradek> chris@max3:~$ python -V
[23:50:40] <cradek> Python 2.7.3
[23:50:54] <cradek> max3 is the new xubuntu12.04 machine
[23:51:10] <pcw_home> is that default for 12.04?
[23:51:18] <cradek> I didn't do anything special, so I assume so
[23:51:32] <pcw_home> so much for that theory
[23:51:35] <ju-emb> I think Python 2.7.3 is default for 12.04
[23:53:21] <ju-emb> if you start glade by just typing glade on the cmd-line the hal widgets don't show up
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[23:54:08] <ju-emb> if I use an older version of glade hal widgets show up and kind of work, but not stable
[23:54:35] <cradek> is there a bugreport or Todo entry about this?
[23:55:27] <ju-emb> it's to new for that I think
[23:55:30] <ju-emb> reading about glade and widgets it comes out that there are some significant changes
[23:57:37] <ju-emb> So I'll talk with Michael about that
[23:58:07] <ju-emb> if he is not to much into building balancing robot's