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[00:07:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/config-cleanup 3d20f7e 06linuxcnc 03configs/maintainer.txt 10tcl/bin/pickconfig.tcl pickconfig: begin flat user configs * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=3d20f7e
[00:07:58] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/config-cleanup 7106aba 06linuxcnc 10(38 files in 13 dirs) rearrange: remap configs: use nc_files/remap_lib * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=7106aba
[00:07:58] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/config-cleanup fd98985 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/axis/halui_pyvcp/halui.ini 03configs/sim/nc_files rearrange: halui_pyvcp conform to flat user configs * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd98985
[00:08:00] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/config-cleanup ca8416e 06linuxcnc 10(9 files) rearrange: python_demo conform flat user configs * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca8416e
[00:08:04] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/config-cleanup e278cdc 06linuxcnc 10(10 files in 2 dirs) rearrange: gmoccapy conform flat user configs * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e278cdc
[00:08:08] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/config-cleanup 7ccb61d 06linuxcnc 10tcl/bin/pickconfig.tcl pickconfig: support exclude list * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ccb61d
[00:08:12] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/config-cleanup 4e2038d 06linuxcnc Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into dgarr/config-cleanup * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e2038d
[00:08:15] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/config-cleanup 59778cf 06linuxcnc 10(137 files in 57 dirs) rearrange: conform ini files for flat user dir * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=59778cf
[00:08:19] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/config-cleanup fbce4a7 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/axis/remap/cycle/tool.tbl 10configs/sim/axis/remap/extend-builtins/tool.tbl 03configs/sim/low_graphics/sim.tbl rearrange: fix some missing tool tbls * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=fbce4a7
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[01:50:40] <linuxcnc-build> build #1176 of deb-lucid-sim-binary-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-lucid-sim-binary-i386/builds/1176 blamelist: Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
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[01:53:50] <linuxcnc-build> build #1182 of deb-precise-sim-binary-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-precise-sim-binary-i386/builds/1182 blamelist: Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[01:56:56] <linuxcnc-build> build #1181 of deb-precise-sim-binary-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-precise-sim-binary-amd64/builds/1181 blamelist: Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[01:57:33] <linuxcnc-build> build #11 of deb-precise-rt-binary-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-precise-rt-binary-i386/builds/11 blamelist: Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
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[02:06:31] <linuxcnc-build> build #1179 of deb-hardy-sim-binary-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-hardy-sim-binary-amd64/builds/1179 blamelist: Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
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[02:09:45] <linuxcnc-build> build #1181 of deb-hardy-rt-binary-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-hardy-rt-binary-i386/builds/1181 blamelist: Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[02:10:11] <linuxcnc-build> build #1178 of deb-hardy-sim-binary-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-hardy-sim-binary-i386/builds/1178 blamelist: Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
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http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-lucid-rt-binary-i386/builds/1177 blamelist: Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[02:16:36] <linuxcnc-build> build #1176 of deb-lucid-sim-binary-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-lucid-sim-binary-amd64/builds/1176 blamelist: Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
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[02:18:29] <dgarr> ? dpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules binary gave error exit status 2
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[02:43:09] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr: the important part of the error message is:
[02:43:11] <seb_kuzminsky> Files exist in debian/tmp, but should not:
[02:43:11] <seb_kuzminsky> debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/examples/sample-configs/maintainer.txt
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[02:44:15] <seb_kuzminsky> that means a new file is installed, but not mentioned in debian/linuxcnc.files.in, which tells the debian packaging system what files to *expect*
[02:44:26] <seb_kuzminsky> so add it to debian/linuxcnc.files.in
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[02:48:45] <dgarr> so: i added the file: configs/maintainer.txt, and the new line for linuxcnc.in should be: usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/examples/sample-configs/maintainer.txt
[02:48:47] <dgarr> ?
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[03:20:21] <seb_kuzminsky> sounds right
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[03:20:53] <dgarr> thanks, i 'll try that
[03:20:56] <seb_kuzminsky> you can try building the debian package on your own machine by running 'fakeroot debian/rules binary'
[03:21:06] <seb_kuzminsky> if it works, push it
[03:21:23] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/config-cleanup 6e2226a 06linuxcnc 10debian/linuxcnc.files.in rearrange: add maintainer.txt to linuxcnc.files.in * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e2226a
[03:21:33] <seb_kuzminsky> or just push it ;-)
[03:22:27] <dgarr> i dont have all the packages to make docs
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[19:59:06] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Norbert Schechner 05master 078b655 06linuxcnc 10(15 files in 2 dirs) gmoccapy_0_9_9_6 - introduced plasma screen layout * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=078b655
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[20:03:17] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Norbert Schechner 05master 1791e0f 06linuxcnc 10share/gscreen/skins/gmoccapy/gmoccapy_handler.py gmoccapy_0_9_9_6 - forgot to change release number * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=1791e0f
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[20:07:19] <cradek> norbert: now that you aren't separately maintaining gmoccapy, is there a reason to continue the release numbers? in the long view, it will be released whenever linuxcnc is released. in the short term, if you want people to report with what version they have a problem, asking for the git ref is the easiest way to do that. I think it's best to start thinking of linuxcnc and gmoccapy as a single combined project now.
[20:10:07] <norbert> cradek: If that is the usal way to do that, I will stop the release numbers, but IMHO, it is the easiest way to just ask the user what is the version number in the title bar, so I can look in my release notes and find out what changes has been done before and after that release.
[20:10:59] <alex_joni> maybe you can do it like AXIS then? include the git ref in the title bar?
[20:11:12] <seb_kuzminsky> that's a good way to do it
[20:11:29] <seb_kuzminsky> i think axis uses the info form the VERSION string, which the buildbot seeds with the git ref info
[20:11:40] <norbert> Ok, let me take a look to axis title bar
[20:13:04] <norbert> AXIS only tells AXIS 2.6.0~pre, that is not very usefull, isn't it?
[20:13:20] <alex_joni> I think that comes from VERSION
[20:13:31] <alex_joni> norbert: for compiled in place you're right
[20:13:38] <norbert> yes
[20:13:40] <alex_joni> but for packages that gets replaced with a proper number
[20:13:49] <alex_joni> (even if it's buildbot packages)
[20:14:03] <cradek> for user-built asking them to 'git describe' is really reasonable in my opinion
[20:14:46] <cradek> that gives you the exact ref (version of ALL files), where your manually-maintained versions do not
[20:15:48] <cradek> or else rip could maybe do something smarter with that shared version? it would be nice if it would be available for all guis.
[20:16:31] <norbert> OK, asking git describe gives me v2.5.3-2467-g179e0f
[20:16:51] <norbert> But I am on master, why 2.5?
[20:17:00] <cradek> the part after -g is the git ref. the rest is the most recent tag, and the number of revisions you are past that tag
[20:17:16] <cradek> there is no v2.6 related tags, so that is the latest one
[20:17:22] <alex_joni> maybe we could put this in the Makefile: GIT_VERSION := $(shell git describe --abbrev=4 --dirty --always)
[20:19:44] <norbert> But how to get the git version, before pushing? Otherwise I get not the latest one.
[20:20:22] <norbert> I do need that bevor pushing to include it the title bat, or can I get it from python code?
[20:20:43] <alex_joni> the idea is that the python code should make it happen automatically
[20:20:57] <norbert> yes, that would be fine
[20:21:22] <norbert> starting the gui, the release number may be added automatically
[20:22:17] <seb_kuzminsky> alex_joni: i'd prefer $(shell scripts/get-version-from-git), it does some smarter things that git describe doesnt
[20:22:57] <alex_joni> seb_kuzminsky: even better
[20:23:26] <alex_joni> sounds like we have a volunteer then
[20:23:51] <norbert> OK, is that me? I will try with supprocess ;-)
[20:24:08] <alex_joni> norbert: nah.. was talking about seb ;)
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[20:24:25] <norbert> Oh I am glade not to have to work
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[20:24:50] <alex_joni> but only for the Makefile part.. so it gets to 'older' GUIs like mini and tklinuxcnc
[20:25:02] <alex_joni> might be overthinking it though
[20:25:19] <seb_kuzminsky> there's currently a step in the package building that replaces VERSION with the output of that script
[20:25:53] <alex_joni> http://imagebin.org/281719
[20:27:35] <alex_joni> everything running on the BBB
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[20:33:33] <cradek> do you have an X server on windows, or is AXIS running on the windows?
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[20:33:55] <alex_joni> there's a portable Xserver on the BB, which gets executed on windows
[20:34:23] <cradek> hmm, that's both pragmatic and kind of nasty-feeling
[20:34:42] <cradek> is this your cute little metal box running it?
[20:34:46] <alex_joni> yeah
[20:34:48] <cradek> neat
[20:34:56] <cradek> that's sure a thing it seems people want
[20:35:02] <alex_joni> you just plug it in (to a win computer) and the config picker comes up
[20:35:35] <alex_joni> there's a ssh (key auth) + x forwarding in the background
[20:35:44] <cradek> wow
[20:36:08] <cradek> that sounds really convenient if you were in the habit of having windows computers around
[20:36:13] <alex_joni> I just put the pieces together.. they were all available
[20:38:26] <skunkworks> alex_joni, that is pretty cool!
[20:44:43] <alex_joni> skunkworks: yeah, hopefully that works on a couple PCs (haven't tried it much yet)
[20:50:19] <norbert> I just tried: release = os.popen("./scripts/get-version-from-git").readlines() but that make the start of the GUI about 2 seconds slower, any other idea
[20:50:33] <cradek> do it at build time, not run time
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[20:51:22] <norbert> I do that starting the GUI, how do you mean at build time?
[20:51:36] <alex_joni> when the user does make
[20:51:57] <alex_joni> for python scripts there's a syntax checking and copying around (defined in the Submakefile)
[20:52:25] <norbert> Oh, than I do have to check the make file, that is realy not my stuff
[20:52:55] <norbert> And the user has to do a make, but many times for my little python code it is not needed
[20:53:27] <norbert> I will wait for sep ;-)
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[23:49:04] <jepler> get-version-from-git wouldn't work in a package build anyway
[23:50:07] <jepler> python -c 'import linuxcnc; print linuxcnc.version'
[23:50:07] <jepler> 2.6.0~pre
[23:50:22] <jepler> you should use linuxcnc.version and if its value is not "good enough" for you then we can work on improving it
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[23:59:38] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: true, get-version-from-git is not included in the package, it's available at build-time and for run-in-place, but not when installed from the debian package