#linuxcnc-devel | Logs for 2013-12-05

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[00:21:33] <dgarr> candidate patch for rearranging configs: http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/rearrange_configs.mbox
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[00:30:31] <seb_kuzminsky> i wonder if dgarr reads the irc logs? here's my comments on his patch set:
[00:30:56] <seb_kuzminsky> firstly, it's a huge improvement - much cleaner than before
[00:32:17] <seb_kuzminsky> in sim, some of the entries are guis (like axis, touchy, gscreen, gmoccapy) and some are extensions to guis (like ngcgui, gladevcp, and halui_pyvcp), that seems wrong to me
[00:34:07] <seb_kuzminsky> i'd prefer to have the extensions be filed along with the thing they're extending, rather than by that extension applied in other ways, if that makes sense
[00:34:38] <seb_kuzminsky> so as sim/axis/axis-ngcgui instead of as sim/ngcgui/axis
[00:34:48] <seb_kuzminsky> just personal preference i guess
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[00:35:27] <seb_kuzminsky> anyway, that kind of feels like fine tuning, i think we should merge this patch set and fiddle with it as a second step.
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[00:36:18] <seb_kuzminsky> sim/ngcgui/pyngcgui_axis.ini fails with "Could not open command file 'core_sim.hal'"
[00:37:09] <seb_kuzminsky> sim/gmoccapy/gmoccapy_4_axis.ini fails with "Could not open command file 'axis_manualtoolchange.hal'"
[00:37:31] <seb_kuzminsky> so far no config i've tried has started. so that should probably be fixed before we merge it
[00:37:52] <seb_kuzminsky> but aside from details, the reorg looks very good
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[00:46:48] <cradek> dgarr: seb_kuzminsky had some comments while you were out: http://linuxcnc.mah.priv.at/irc/%23linuxcnc-devel/2013-12-05.html
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[00:58:33] <dgarr> no idea why they are not starting for you. the ones you mention start for me on a rip build. maybe you could pastebin ls -lR for the directory created by pickconfig if that is how you are testing
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[01:18:19] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr: i configured for run-in-place, make, linuxcnc
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[01:27:16] <dgarr> maybe it needs make clean? i would suggest deleting (moving to save?) ~/linuxcnc, then repeat, then pastebin $ ls -lR ~/linuxcnc
[01:28:13] <seb_kuzminsky> i dont think pickconfig has tried to copy anything by the time i get these errors
[01:29:50] <seb_kuzminsky> i just cleaned by configs tree with 'git clean -fdx configs', and i have a symlink named sim/gmoccapy/axis_manualtoolchange.hal, pointing to .., but i have no sim/axis_manualtoolchange.hal, even after 'make' does 'copying shared configs'
[01:33:20] <dgarr> ok -- good clue, i probably had not done git clean in my dir and need to work on the Makefile more, i'll post here when I've revised the patch -- thanks for your help
[01:42:15] <dgarr> revised: (applys to master not on top of earlier mboxpatch): http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/v2_rearrange_configs.mbox
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[02:21:48] <skunkworks> alex_joni: :) thanks
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[12:39:41] <micges> skunkworks: hi, got any time to tale a look at ubc3-7i80 branch?
[12:41:35] <skunkworks> I hope to soon. (work has been a bit busy) I hear peter has been having great luck with it !
[12:42:31] <micges> yep
[12:45:40] <micges> there is fair amount of work yet, but mostly fixing bugs that came out when low level transport is much slower than PCI
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[16:58:18] <seb_kuzminsky> JT-Shop, jthornton: would you cross off the thcud task on the Todo-2.6 wiki page?
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[17:10:15] <JT-Shop> (done)
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[17:24:08] <dgarr> i updated configs patch if you want to try again: http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/v2_rearrange_configs.mbox
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[17:25:49] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks JT-Shop :-)
[17:25:58] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr: i'll check it out
[17:26:02] <seb_kuzminsky> but probably not today
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[18:17:22] <skunkworks> pretty cool logging - http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/circsimtest/test2.log
[18:22:19] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah that looks helpful
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[18:24:29] <skunkworks> I am assuming if he has logging setup in sim builds there is probably a chance it isn't setup for realtime? (I assume TP is realtime stuff?
[18:25:24] <seb_kuzminsky> you can log from realtime context, it goes to the kernel log (dmesg)
[18:25:34] <seb_kuzminsky> and yes, tp is in motion, which is realtime
[18:25:47] <skunkworks> ok - but I am not seeing it there either.
[18:26:05] <skunkworks> I assume it just isn't setup to work in a realtime build
[18:26:15] <seb_kuzminsky> oh, strange
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[18:26:55] <skunkworks> (because the command would be linuxcnc > something.log
[18:27:12] <seb_kuzminsky> does it show up in dmesg?
[18:27:14] <skunkworks> which doesn't show anyting other than startup/shut down)
[18:27:23] <skunkworks> I will check again - and see.
[18:31:11] <skunkworks> yah - unless I am doing something wrong - roberts logging doesn't seem to work in realtime builds
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[22:44:38] <andypugh> seb_kuzminsky: What is the problem with JA4 and wheel jogging?
[22:45:27] <seb_kuzminsky> i have a report from micges that he took it out when doing the ja work, and hasnt put it back in yet
[22:45:56] <andypugh> I guess a secondary question is, how do I find out which version I am using? I just realised that I have a JA style INI, and my only jogging is wheel jogging..
[22:46:05] <seb_kuzminsky> also there's the meta-problem that we dont have any jogwheel tests
[22:46:19] <seb_kuzminsky> huh, that's funny
[22:46:46] <andypugh> I think I must still be on MAH's jog-while-paused branch.
[22:47:09] <seb_kuzminsky> 'git branch' will tell you
[22:47:27] <andypugh> I am using touchy, if that makes a difference (and it might, Touchy rather expects a jogwheel)
[22:47:39] <seb_kuzminsky> i dont know anything about that
[22:48:11] <andypugh> Let me go out and boot the mill, and see what I am using :-)
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[23:04:15] <andypugh> Well, ./scripts/rip-environment says "only useful in run-in-place" systems, and the LinuxCNC scrips says "2.6.0 Pre joints_axes" as it boots, and wheel jogging works...
[23:05:00] <skunkworks> I thought it only worked in joint mode not world mode or whatever
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[23:05:59] <andypugh> This may be the issue, perhaps wheel-jogging only works in trivkins. But that is much less of a problem than I thought we had.
[23:06:34] <andypugh> Have we ever had world-mode jogwheel jogging?
[23:08:54] <seb_kuzminsky> andypugh: can you verify that the jogwheel encoder's "counts" pin is netted to axis.*.jog-counts (or joint.*.jog-counts, or whatever it's called in ja)
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[23:11:18] <andypugh> http://pastebin.com/ZcxxJWJU
[23:12:43] <andypugh> Caveat... That is from a file on my indoors PC, not the Workshop PC. The possibility exists that there are difference, but I would be surprised.
[23:22:45] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks andy
[23:23:28] <seb_kuzminsky> wait, ja still has axis.*.jog-counts? i'd've thought that'd be world-mode jogging, aren't we talking about free-mode (aka joint-mode) jogging?
[23:24:38] <andypugh> As skunkworks pointed out, I am confusing things by talking about a trivkins machine.
[23:26:10] <andypugh> I probably got the wrong end of the stick somewhere.
[23:26:54] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, i won't freak out then :-)
[23:27:31] <seb_kuzminsky> the ocd part of me hates not knowing what works and what's broken
[23:27:42] <seb_kuzminsky> it wants to write tests for all the things, so we'll know
[23:28:03] <seb_kuzminsky> but the practical part of me thinks there's more efficient ways for me to spend my time
[23:30:04] <andypugh> But, it we have joint-mode wheel-jogging, and never had world-mode wheel jogging, then is JA4 more releasable than thought?
[23:33:20] <seb_kuzminsky> if wheel jogging in ja still works on trivkins machines like it does in master, then yes. if a thing that works in master breaks in ja, then ja is not mergable
[23:33:39] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl
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