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[00:43:15] <jepler> andypugh: only method i k
[00:44:27] <jepler> andypugh: only method I know of is explicit const_cast<char*>
[00:45:28] <andypugh> Isn't the problem the reverse? The function input is a char* but the "Error" string is a const literal?
[00:47:10] <andypugh> Anyway, my decision is to ignore it and push the branch. I think I am likely to start again from the beginning
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[00:59:59] <andypugh> http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=blob;f=src/emc/nml_intf/emc_nml.hh;h=c2212e9eeb2a1988811c5abc3dcbfa719caaf58a;hb=HEAD#l1562 is a C++ class that exposes an array. Would it be possible for that class to have an actual OO Method, that uses Boost::Python to call Python code to access an SQL database (or, potentially, to acces the SQL itself?). Given that it is passed along as an NML message, and could be
[00:59:59] <andypugh> anywhere, how likely is it that Methods would be in the wrong namespace or memory space, or even on the wrong hardware, to actually work?
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[01:24:52] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Andy Pugh 05tooltable 9fd6617 06linuxcnc 10(20 files in 5 dirs) starting to play with interp-convert * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=9fd6617
[01:24:52] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03andypugh 05tooltable 4197c5f 06linuxcnc 10(10 files in 6 dirs) First working version * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=4197c5f
[01:24:54] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03andypugh 05tooltable 870b00b 06linuxcnc 03lib/python/toolstore/test.py 03lib/python/toolstore/tool_db 03share/sql/classic.sql Add some missed files * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=870b00b
[01:24:58] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Andy Pugh 05tooltable bfe0a76 06linuxcnc 10(6 files in 5 dirs) Teach Axis and ioControl how to work the database * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=bfe0a76
[01:25:02] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Andy Pugh 05tooltable 96fcc95 06linuxcnc 10(809 files in 105 dirs) This commit must never be merged!! Comments and sample config for the tool-database branch * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=96fcc95
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[02:12:10] <jepler> andypugh: yes, and Python doesn't correctly note that it's OK to pass a const char* to that argument
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[04:31:41] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master 519bb5d 06linuxcnc 10debian/rules.in deb: provide build-arch and build-indep targets in debian/rules * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=519bb5d
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[04:47:08] <seb_kuzminsky> are there instructions anywhere on how to work with the debian archive at w.l.o/dists? someone wanna walk me through it and i'll take notes & write it up
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[16:33:16] <archivist> interesting GCC problem
http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/~xi/papers/stack-sosp13.pdf
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[17:20:02] <seb_kuzminsky> andypugh: if i were doing the tooltable work (which i'm not), i'd be tempted to create the api first, and leave the current implementation behind it
[17:20:34] <seb_kuzminsky> that'll show you exactly how linuxcnc currently accesses the tool table, and it'll make it more testable
[17:20:55] <seb_kuzminsky> *then* you'll be in a good position to experiment with different backends
[17:24:38] <andypugh> This was the main rationale behind startting with a database exactly like the tool file.
[17:25:42] <andypugh> But I think you are talking about an API which accesses the current tool array?
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[17:26:50] <andypugh> One drawback with that otherwise sensible approach is that it precludes the "delete the tool array and see what complains" method of development :-)
[17:28:02] <andypugh> Back in a bit, I feel the need to use a machine tool for a few hours :-)
[17:30:12] <andypugh> I can't work out whether to write the API in Python (ameanable to user/integrator tweaks) or C++ (Which leaves a lot less cruft in the C++ code).
[17:37:31] <seb_kuzminsky> the tools are currently used inside the C core of linuxcnc, so that's what i'd write the api in
[17:38:26] <seb_kuzminsky> make a tooltable.h and tooltable.c, and move all the tooltable code in there
[17:38:56] <seb_kuzminsky> you can still remove the current tooltable array and see what breaks, then teach the broken stuff to use the api instead of direct access
[17:39:04] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl, going sledding with the kids
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http://linuxcnc.org/docs/LinuxCNC_Getting_Started.pdf returns a 404
[19:49:20] <JT_Shop> I figured it out
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