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[00:57:55] <cradek> KGB-linuxcnc: hey there, cowboy
[00:57:58] <KGB-linuxcnc> cradek: My master told me to not respond.
[01:00:11] <kwallace> KGB is sensitive.
[01:00:53] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Root 05vfd-b-3 59c4195 06linuxcnc New branch with 30 commits pushed, 104 files changed, 031142(+) since vfd-b-3/9af287f
[01:01:19] <cradek> oh look at that, wooo
[01:01:32] <cradek> that's a lot nicer than the old flood.
[01:02:06] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: ^^ !!
[01:05:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05kgbtest 1127259 06linuxcnc 03hi-there-kgb This is a test to poke kgb. * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=1127259
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[01:05:42] <cradek> neat, it shows the user now, and handles new branches
[01:06:20] <kwallace> Upgrade?
[01:06:27] <KGB-linuxcnc> 05kgbtest 1127259 06linuxcnc 04. branch deleted * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=1127259
[01:07:11] <cradek> yeah, I found a new version in a later debian repo and ported it. the site where I got kgb originally has disappeared. maybe it has new maintainers...?
[01:07:48] <kwallace> I hope it wasn't too much trouble.
[01:08:01] <cradek> it was actually pretty horrible :-)
[01:08:50] <kwallace> Oops.
[01:09:01] <cradek> but I have zfs, which conquers all (snapshot, try installing the terrible perl thing and see what it destroys, rollback)
[01:09:45] <cradek> it happily nuked all the config files, for instance
[01:09:51] <cradek> but no problem
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[01:11:38] <kwallace> That reminds me of when, many years back when I had the patience, compiling kernels and forgetting that the config gets nuked.
[01:12:18] <kwallace> or rather the original config file
[01:12:26] <cradek> yeah, that was always lovely
[01:12:55] <cradek> today any OS without root on zfs is utterly second-class to me
[01:13:35] <cradek> I guess they call it the zeal of the converted
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[01:17:06] <kwallace> Did you catch my comment above about my bad mdi program running just fine on real hardware?
[01:19:34] <kwallace> (trying O calls is still on my to-do)
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[02:56:18] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: thanks for fixing it :-)
[02:58:21] <ju-emb> On
[02:58:23] <ju-emb> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Build_A_Simulator_Manually
[02:58:27] <ju-emb> is a line that says:
[02:58:31] <ju-emb> The tcl8.4 and tk8.4 packages are only needed to get the dependencies check working, they will conflict with the configure. Remove them again.
[02:58:35] <ju-emb> sudo apt-get purge tcl8.4-dev tk8.4-dev
[02:58:40] <ju-emb> actually that's not needed anymore.
[02:58:41] <ju-emb> Y just tried and it compiled perfect on ubuntu 12.04
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[03:00:34] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: sure! so ok, now push all your bugfixes and let's see how it does
[03:00:59] <cradek> ju-emb: please do fix it if it's out of date! thanks
[03:01:21] <ju-emb> can I ?
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[03:01:36] <cradek> ju-emb: yes, the wiki is editable by everyone
[03:02:10] <cradek> ju-emb: there's instructions for how to log in at
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?BasicSteps
[03:02:37] <cradek> note that the name of our cute penguin mascot is chips
[03:03:17] <ju-emb> just reading it
[03:08:10] <skunkworks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH944Qq86kc
[03:13:54] <micges> wow, it's alive
[03:13:58] <skunkworks> sounds like they have smooth stepper sort of working - but that is it.
[03:14:13] <skunkworks> no printer port yet
[03:14:57] <skunkworks> A ton of - we will in the future be adding....
[03:15:43] <micges> iirc they are 1 year late atm
[03:15:58] <cradek> ha, 1 year is nothing in software
[03:16:11] <skunkworks> more than that...
[03:17:57] <skunkworks> cradek: I point to the article you found about - re-writing software from scratch...
[03:18:04] <ju-emb> There is no reason to be jealous with MACH, it's good to keep an eye on it, but it's really not 5% flexible as lcnc
[03:18:24] <skunkworks> jealouse? heh
[03:18:52] <cradek> I don't think anyone is jealous - they're pointing and laughing - which is also not particularly productive
[03:19:04] <cradek> but we all have hobbies
[03:19:07] <skunkworks> heh
[03:19:15] <skunkworks> It is better than reality tv...
[03:19:21] <cradek> mine is denigrating others' hobbies
[03:19:37] <skunkworks> what was the latest?
[03:20:25] <ju-emb> > It is better than reality tv...
[03:20:28] <ju-emb> OK, from that point of view, I agree
[03:22:38] <ju-emb> waht's a ngc file in the examples to see how a lathe config works?
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[03:22:57] <cradek> lathe-pawn?
[03:23:23] <ju-emb> ok got it thank's
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[04:03:02] <ju-emb> try to run /configs/sim/gladevcp
[04:03:05] <ju-emb> ImportError: No module named Xlib
[04:03:06] <ju-emb> what package is missing here?
[04:05:54] <micges> try libxlib-dev
[04:06:28] <micges> or simply libxlib
[04:07:56] <ju-emb> apt says no such packages
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[04:09:16] <cradek> configs/sim/gladevcp/gladevcp_panel works for me
[04:10:32] <ju-emb> not for me, same error as the tab version
[04:11:26] <ju-emb> cradek: on what dsitro yours is running?
[04:11:56] <cradek> the mint that's based on ubuntu precise
[04:12:26] <cradek> you're surely just missing a package, but I don't know what it is
[04:12:37] <cradek> if you install with apt you'll get them all
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[04:15:27] <ju-emb> python-xlib is the one missing
[04:15:29] <ju-emb> now runs panel but tab segfaults
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[13:06:21] <skunkworks> The consperousy theorist in me wonders how much linuxcnc is in mach4...
[13:06:22] <skunkworks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WuiVAMUC1k
[13:06:51] <skunkworks> conspiracy theorist
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[13:13:11] <mhaberler> actually I think there's an interesting UI idea to take inspiration from: the vertical ticks from the path down to (I assume) Z zero - that gives a visual tool height indication
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[13:14:00] <mhaberler> might have been inspired from NTSB plane crash reports visualizing plane trajectories ;)
[13:15:57] <cradek> ouch, that ccomp wrong path instead of an error.
[13:17:08] <skunkworks> http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,21026.msg146323.html#msg146323
[13:17:35] <skunkworks> that looks like my o-word program...
[13:19:21] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/AXIS.JPG
[13:19:41] <skunkworks> wow - look at that - isntalled on the bdi...
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[13:56:01] <skunkworks> axis is about the same ages as my marrage...
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