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[07:17:52] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05motion-tests 82cc9da 06linuxcnc 10tests/motion/ 10(5 files) * remove the motion/g0 test
[07:17:53] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05motion-tests 2b8f52e 06linuxcnc 03lib/python/linuxcnccontrol.py * make LinuxcncControl a reusable python library
[07:17:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05motion-tests 00f6fc8 06linuxcnc 10tests/ 10halui-jogging/test-ui.py 10toolchanger/m61/test-ui.py * tests: use the new LinuxcncControl python module
[07:18:02] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05motion-tests 7d209b0 06linuxcnc 10tests/motion/ 10(9 files in 2 dirs) * tests: add a motion test of the X-axis g0 vel/acc profile
[07:18:09] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05motion-tests 6d43268 06linuxcnc 10tests/motion/ 10(5 files) * tests: add a motion test of jogging the X axis
[07:18:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05motion-tests 05c4605 06linuxcnc 10tests/motion/README * README
[07:18:21] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03TODO: deletor 05test-g0 fbe9298 06linuxcnc 04. * branch deleted
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[08:05:00] <linuxcnc-build> build #676 of precise-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
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[08:09:45] <linuxcnc-build> build #1475 of lucid-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-i386-realtime-rip/builds/1475 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
[08:12:47] <linuxcnc-build> build #1476 of checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
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[14:20:39] <SadMan> http://pastebin.com/TLQsDQrL
[14:20:52] <SadMan> any idea? seems to die on inb(0x37a), some permission problems?
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[14:25:28] <skunkworks__> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NewRTInstall
[14:25:54] <skunkworks__> maybe the section
[14:25:55] <skunkworks__> Before running any parallel-port based configuration, make sure the 'lp' kernel module is not loaded.
[14:26:23] <SadMan> that's unloaded, i was getting cannot open instead of crash when lp was loaded
[14:26:27] <skunkworks__> also - did you add your user to the xenomai and kem group?
[14:26:33] <SadMan> yes
[14:26:39] <skunkworks__> huh
[14:26:45] <SadMan> uid=1000(cnc) gid=1000(cnc) groups=1000(cnc),4(adm),7(lp),15(kmem),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),111(lpadmin),112(sambashare),115(xenomai)
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[14:27:24] <skunkworks__> That is about all I have for troubleshooting knowledge..
[14:27:41] <SadMan> ok, thanks for trying ;-)
[14:28:10] <skunkworks__> I have run the xnomai kernel with linuxcnc - it does work. (if that is any consolation ;) )
[14:28:50] <SadMan> it's probably something really stupid, i just ran out of ideas
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[14:40:55] <skunkworks__> did you sudo make setuid?
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[14:46:15] <SadMan> yes
[14:47:11] <SadMan> core file is owned by root too
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[16:38:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05motion-tests 0817634 06linuxcnc 10tests/motion/ 10jog/test-ui.py 10mdi/g0/test-ui.py * handle realtime errors better
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[16:39:30] <skunkworks__> mhaberler, SadMan is havinng issues still - read back
[16:39:38] <mhaberler> SadMan: please pastebin /var/log/linuxcnc.log
[16:39:48] <skunkworks__> heh
[16:40:01] <SadMan> http://pastebin.com/TLQsDQrL
[16:40:03] <mhaberler> need to edit the wiki and 'our mascot' seems not to be 'tux'
[16:40:20] <mhaberler> that is the console log
[16:40:31] <skunkworks__> mhaberler, I think it is chips
[16:40:34] <mhaberler> ah
[16:40:35] <mhaberler> I see
[16:40:39] <SadMan> actually i just made it not crash by adding iopl(3) here and there which is completely wrong because it works for everyone else ;-)
[16:41:03] <mhaberler> please do this as per the link I gave: export DEBUG=5
[16:41:18] <mhaberler> then run again and post /var/log/linuxcnc.log
[16:41:26] <mhaberler> have you been changing C source?
[16:41:46] <SadMan> just now, tried to add iopl before those inbs whether it helps
[16:41:48] <SadMan> it does
[16:41:49] <mhaberler> also please run 'flavor' and report the outoput
[16:42:33] <mhaberler> we need to find the actual cause, rtapi_app is supposed to elevate iopl levels properly
[16:45:29] <SadMan> flavor reports xenomai
[16:45:31] <SadMan> http://pastebin.com/4KgU64ZN
[16:45:45] <SadMan> (i've removed those iopls)
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[16:55:18] <mhaberler> you did insert the iopl() somewhere before hal_parport.c:608 I assume?
[16:55:50] <SadMan> had to do that in 2 functions, read and setup
[16:55:54] <SadMan> now i removed
[16:55:56] <SadMan> //#if defined(__x86_64) || defined(i386)
[16:56:04] <SadMan> in ./rtapi/rtapi_app.cc
[16:56:08] <SadMan> and it works again
[16:56:18] <SadMan> something wrong with defines
[16:56:37] <mhaberler> no, environment or options
[16:56:43] <SadMan> iopl is compiled out in my case
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[16:57:13] <mhaberler> can you please verify with a piece of C like so:
[16:58:07] <mhaberler> #if defined(__x86_64) || defined(i386)
[16:58:08] <mhaberler> #warning "this warning MUST appear"
[16:58:08] <mhaberler> #endif
[16:58:23] <SadMan> i'm back in 20 mins, i'll try it then
[16:58:51] <mhaberler> ok
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[17:02:55] <mhaberler> skunkworks_:thanks - it is; to derive that string from 'the name of our mascot' is beyond my cultural sensitivity level ;)
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[17:05:44] <skunkworks__> heh
[17:07:38] <cradek> mhaberler: it's also the name of the image
[17:09:40] <mhaberler> ah
[17:10:00] <cradek> I thought that would be a dead giveaway, but nobody seems to find it
[17:10:19] <mhaberler> well it sure dont come easy to me
[17:10:39] <mhaberler> saying 'basename of mascot image file' might provide a clue
[17:10:45] <cradek> fortunately you knew where find the answer easily
[17:13:10] <mhaberler> Sadman: please pastebin src/config.log, and report output of this (for gcc and g++): gcc -dM -E - < /dev/null | grep 86
[17:13:21] <mhaberler> this is seriously whacky
[17:20:25] <mhaberler> SadMan: it would help if you could gdb rtapi_app core and in the main() frame report the values of 'use_drivers' and 'flavor->flags'
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[17:34:43] <SadMan> there's #define i386 1 in both gcc and g++ output of those commands above
[17:35:00] <SadMan> if i add that #define above that iopl if defined, it gets compiled in
[17:35:08] <SadMan> no idea where it disappears
[17:36:09] <mhaberler> please touch src/rtapi/rtapi_app.cc and 'make V=1', then post the make output (which should list the gcc command line with all flags)
[17:36:21] <SadMan> ok
[17:36:29] <mhaberler> I've never seen this in the wild
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[17:37:56] <SadMan> g++ -c -I. -Ilibnml/linklist -Ilibnml/cms -Ilibnml/rcs -Ilibnml/inifile -Ilibnml/os_intf -Ilibnml/nml -Ilibnml/buffer -Ilibnml/posemath -Irtapi -Irtapi_export -Ihal/drivers -Ihal -Iemc/nml_intf -Iemc/kinematics -Iemc/motion -Iemc/ini -Iemc/rs274ngc -Iemc/pythonplugin -I/usr/include/python2.7 -g -O2 -std=c++0x -DULAPI -g -Wall -Os \
[17:37:57] <SadMan> -MP -MD -MF "objects/rtapi/posix/rtapi_app.d" -MT "objects/rtapi/posix/rtapi_app.o" \
[17:37:57] <SadMan> rtapi/posix/rtapi_app.cc -o objects/rtapi/posix/rtapi_app.o
[17:38:17] <mhaberler> let me check if -std=c++0x is the cause
[17:39:07] <SadMan> yes, that one looks suspicious ;-)
[17:39:08] <mhaberler> no it isnt
[17:39:44] <mhaberler> well I have gcc 4.8.2 here, could you try with yours ?
[17:41:10] <SadMan> just to add that to g++ -dM -E - < /dev/null ?
[17:41:15] <SadMan> no difference
[17:41:16] <mhaberler> right
[17:41:58] <mhaberler> lets exclude the sym is #undef ed somewhere in the includes. could you add at the top of rtapi_app.cc:
[17:42:08] <mhaberler> #ifndef i386
[17:42:26] <mhaberler> #error "i386 not defined"
[17:42:28] <mhaberler> #endif
[17:42:31] <mhaberler> and rebuild?
[17:43:03] <mhaberler> if it is #undef'd from the command line already that should fail the compile
[17:43:24] <SadMan> rtapi/posix/rtapi_app.cc:2:2: error: #error "i386 not defined"
[17:43:32] <mhaberler> whoa
[17:43:41] <mhaberler> now..
[17:44:02] <mhaberler> does this happen if you execute in src:
[17:44:32] <mhaberler> g++ -c -I. -Ilibnml/linklist -Ilibnml/cms -Ilibnml/rcs -Ilibnml/inifile -Ilibnml/os_intf -Ilibnml/nml -Ilibnml/buffer -Ilibnml/posemath -Irtapi -Irtapi_export -Ihal/drivers -Ihal -Iemc/nml_intf -Iemc/kinematics -Iemc/motion -Iemc/ini -Iemc/rs274ngc -Iemc/pythonplugin -I/usr/include/python2.7 -g -O2 -std=c++0x -DULAPI -g -Wall -Os -MP -MD -MF "objects/rtapi/posix/rtapi_app.d" -MT "objects/rtapi/posix/rtapi_app.o"
[17:44:32] <mhaberler> rtapi/posix/rtapi_app.cc -o objects/rtapi/posix/rtapi_app.o
[17:44:33] <mhaberler> ?
[17:44:53] <mhaberler> (to exclude environment passed in from make)
[17:45:47] <SadMan> yes
[17:45:55] <mhaberler> same error you mean?
[17:46:02] <SadMan> yes, #error
[17:46:12] <mhaberler> good, so not environment coming in via make
[17:46:30] <mhaberler> g++ --version says?
[17:46:34] <SadMan> heh, i've removed -std=c++0x and it compiled
[17:46:42] <mhaberler> what!?
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[17:48:23] <jepler> same result with g++ 4.4.3 on ubuntu lucid
[17:48:24] <jepler> http://pastebin.com/6K6gZP4k
[17:48:45] <jepler> the "i386" identifier is reserved to the user, and so -std=c++0x turns it off
[17:48:52] <jepler> -std=gnu++0x enables it as a gnu extension
[17:49:20] <mhaberler> hm, should we throw in -std=gnu++0x ?
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[17:49:43] <jepler> __i386__ and __i386 are both defined and those are probably "the right way" because they are identifiers reserved to the implementation
[17:50:11] <jepler> so -std=gnu++0x is possibly the shortest path to a working system
[17:50:35] <jepler> but the better long-term solution may be to use __i386
[17:51:00] * jepler wanders off again
[17:52:23] <mhaberler> this still doesnt add up for me: I do 'gcc -std=c++0x -dM -E - < /dev/null | grep 86' and get '#define __i386 1' as well as '#define i386 1'
[17:52:52] <SadMan> i had g++ warning me that -std is only valid in c++ mode
[17:52:55] <SadMan> could be the reason
[17:53:53] <jepler> yes
[17:54:03] <jepler> for whatever reason, "-" is assumed to be a C (not C++) source file by g++
[17:54:08] <mhaberler> well we definitely need reliable architecture detection symbols regardless of invocation
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[17:54:25] <jepler> $ g++ -std=c++0x -dM -E - < /dev/null | grep cplus
[17:54:25] <jepler> cc1: warning: command line option "-std=c++0x" is valid for C++/ObjC++ but not for C
[17:54:27] <mhaberler> jepler: are you suggesting __386 would work regardless?
[17:54:28] <jepler> $ g++ -std=c++0x -dM -x c++ -E - < /dev/null | grep cplus
[17:54:30] <jepler> #define __cplusplus 1
[17:54:34] <mhaberler> __i386 I mean?
[17:54:47] <jepler> mhaberler: a sample of one computer suggests it may be so
[17:55:26] <mhaberler> was that off the top of your head or from a reference?
[17:55:34] <jepler> top of my head. I wish I had a reference
[17:55:43] <SadMan> so for me, it should be enough to edit this after ./configure and before rebuild?
[17:55:44] <SadMan> ./Makefile.inc:CXXFLAGS = -g -O2 -std=c++0x
[17:55:50] <mhaberler> right
[17:56:45] <jepler> closest I have is:
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/cpp/System_002dspecific-Predefined-Macros.html
[17:57:17] <jepler> so it sounds like __i386__ is a better choice than __i386 or i386
[17:57:55] <jepler> but a compiler test for iopl being available might be better still
[17:57:58] <jepler> for this specific instance
[17:58:06] <mhaberler> well as a fix which will work for exactly 1 configure - yes, but I think we should have a patch shortly to
[17:58:13] <jepler> really afk this time
[17:58:39] <mhaberler> hm, that would suggest with #if defined(__x86_64) || defined(i386) the first one is rightish and the second wrongish
[17:59:05] <mhaberler> SadMan: could you retry by editing #if defined(__x86_64) || defined(i386) into #if defined(__x86_64) || defined(__i386)
[17:59:09] <mhaberler> and rebuild?
[18:00:30] <mhaberler> ah, it should be __i386__, sorry
[18:00:37] <mhaberler> amd __x86_64__
[18:00:48] <mhaberler> trying now here
[18:01:08] <SadMan> if you're not compiling on atom as i do, you'll be faster ;-)
[18:02:11] <mhaberler> dang, there's a single second use in the code for x86_64 and it is correct if one believes the above:
[18:02:11] <mhaberler> ./rtapi/rtapi_time.c:#elif defined(__i386__) || defined(__x86_64__)
[18:02:26] <mhaberler> oh, it should just rebuild that single file
[18:02:48] <SadMan> yes, it works
[18:05:05] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05unified-build-candidate-3 2ed738b 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/rtapi_app.cc * rtapi_app: correct usage of architecture symbols
[18:05:28] <mhaberler> great, you could pull --force and rebuild, it's fixed
[18:05:32] <mhaberler> thanks for the patience!
[18:05:42] <SadMan> thanks for fix ;-)
[18:05:53] <mhaberler> Jeff - thanks, learned something!
[18:06:46] <mhaberler> SadMann: so startup is ok now?
[18:07:05] <SadMan> yes, it "boots" to gui now
[18:07:10] <mhaberler> super
[18:07:25] <mhaberler> very tricky..
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[18:10:06] <mhaberler> ok, bbl - mail ok
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[18:12:49] <andypugh> Any opinions on that augmentation of charge-pump that was seen on the mailing list today?
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[18:18:51] <seb_kuzminsky> andypugh: seems like a quick safe fix, and easy for users to understand, though a bit arbitrary
[18:19:26] <andypugh> Arbitrary in only being /2 and /4 ?
[18:19:47] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, /2 and /4 probably covers a lot of the common cases, but exposing a divisor and letting the user set it seems cleaner to me
[18:20:00] <skunkworks__> My thought... Why make the person figure out the frequency.. couldn't you have the hal module take the frequency and output a 'close enough' frequency maybe by dithering?
[18:20:08] <skunkworks__> *input
[18:20:18] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks__: yeah, i like that
[18:20:37] <andypugh> We have other compnents for that. Charge-pump is meant to be fast and lightweight
[18:21:35] <andypugh> It's just meant to wiggle a pin to show that it is alive.
[18:22:38] <seb_kuzminsky> andypugh: things that get poked by the charge-pump comp are pretty generous in what frequencies they accept, so /2 and /4 seems like an easy improvement
[18:23:19] <andypugh> That was my thinking. If someone needs a specific frequency then they probably need to look at a 50% duty cycle version of PWM.
[18:24:18] <andypugh> Until last week I hadn't seen anyone unhappy with the existing version.
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