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[13:04:03] <skunkworks> hmmm
http://imagebin.org/276065
[13:04:12] <skunkworks> those 2 spikes seem a bit wonky
[13:04:38] <skunkworks> (well the whole trace doese -but that is beside the point)
[13:04:45] <skunkworks> I should have zoomed in on it
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[13:11:34] <jthornton> just when I thought I understood what G/R0 button in the Touchy MDI tab does it doesn't seem to do anything with G0
[13:12:02] <jthornton> anyone know what the G/R0 button in the MDI tab of touchy actually does?
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[13:34:59] <cradek> lets you enter r/theta for a polar move
[13:36:37] <cradek> generates gN @NNN ^NNN or however it's spelled
[13:49:40] <cradek> is it broken?
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[14:19:40] <jthornton> I think so, if I press G/R0 the enter 0 for a rapid move then next nothing happens
[14:19:52] <cradek> hm
[14:19:53] <jthornton> then/the
[14:19:56] <cradek> what version?
[14:20:03] <jthornton> 2.5.3
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[14:23:23] <cradek> weird, neither G button is working right for me
[14:24:47] <cradek> I'm never getting XYZ words to fill out
[14:24:49] <cradek> what the heck
[14:24:56] <cradek> in 2.5.3 sim/touchy
[14:25:10] <cradek> bbl
[14:25:19] <cradek> can't work on it right now
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[14:57:10] <JT_Shop> G/XY works fine for me. Press G/
[14:57:41] <JT_Shop> G/XY then 0-3 then next and you get the correct words to use
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[14:59:00] <cradek> aaaaand now they're both working for me
[14:59:42] <cradek> but they sure weren't an hour ago
[15:00:53] <cradek> and g76 doesn't have an F (not enough lines?)
[15:01:06] <JT_Shop> weird
[15:01:57] <JT_Shop> and G/R0 just worked for me on the BP
[15:02:30] <cradek> something's odd, isn't it
[15:04:11] <JT_Shop> yes, I'll try and remember what I did to break it when it breaks again, I can't touch much on the BP at the moment I'm in the middle of a job
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[15:10:49] <cradek> oh -- g76 doesn't need F, duh
[15:16:22] <cradek> darn, I expected to find a missing emcstat.poll() before reading the axis_mask, but it's there and the code looks right
[15:16:35] <cradek> I do not have a second guess
[15:16:57] <cradek> JT_Shop: if you can figure out how to reproduce it please share...
[15:17:04] <JT_Shop> will do
[15:18:08] <cradek> I'm especially baffled that you had XY working (giving you the axis words to fill in) but not Rtheta. that seems to mean we had different failures and I don't see a way they can be connected
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[17:44:18] <IchGuckLive> Question why is there no entry for backlash on the pncconf
[17:44:31] <IchGuckLive> there is almost all there but no entry on this
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[17:48:29] <mozmck> hmm, looks to me like there is a bug in the PID hal component? or it could be a bug in my eyes...
[17:49:07] <seb_kuzminsky> what do you see, mozmck ?
[17:49:12] <mozmck> in src/hal/components/pid.c line 339.
[17:49:47] <mozmck> hmm, may be a bug in my eyes.
[17:49:51] <seb_kuzminsky> what looks wrong about that line?
[17:50:23] <mozmck> I guess deadband will always be positive, and I was kind of thinking of it being +/-
[17:51:33] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm not sure what a negative deadband would mean
[17:51:58] <mozmck> Yep, looks fine now. I usually figure that out after I ask a dumb question or make a dumb statement!
[17:52:20] <seb_kuzminsky> but nowhere do we enforce deadband being non-negative, nor do we talk about it in the docs
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[17:55:21] <IchGuckLive> seb how is to ask over pncconf
[17:56:48] <seb_kuzminsky> IchGuckLive: cmorley works on pncconf
[17:57:23] <seb_kuzminsky> i think backlash compensation is a somewhat rarely used feature, you may be best off adding it by hand to the config files pncconf makes
[18:00:05] <IchGuckLive> i know but this kills the nice reconfig
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[18:01:44] <IchGuckLive> as with mesa you got somany nice stuff to config with
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[18:07:36] <seb_kuzminsky> IchGuckLive: maybe open a Feature Request ticked on our bug tracker?
https://sourceforge.net/p/emc/feature-requests/
[18:08:07] <seb_kuzminsky> someone opened a ticket to add backlash support in stepconf already
[18:08:13] <IchGuckLive> seb_kuzminsky: thanks i will ask to him personly about that
[18:08:37] <IchGuckLive> thee is more needed
[18:08:44] <IchGuckLive> there
[18:09:00] <IchGuckLive> and some space on the Axis config side also
[18:09:23] <IchGuckLive> is free to put the entrys in
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[20:06:08] <JT_Shop> IMHO backlash support for a wizard is a bit beyond what a wizard should do...
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[21:29:30] <KimK> I agree with JT, they should power up for the first time and then see what their LinuxCNC-measured backlash is. Plus there's the newbie factor of "why doesn't backlash comp make my backlash problem (loose hardware) go away?", but I guess that's a separate issue. OK, OK, getting off my soapbox now.
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