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[00:06:52] <Tom_itx> you can do that
[00:07:44] <Tom_itx> i had a button for x and y that offset .1 for the wiggler but i'm not using it right now
[00:08:54] <Tom_itx> i generally offset off the same end of the vise for most things so it would be handy
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[00:16:13] <memleak> removing math support in RTAI is pretty straight forward. just delete the math folders and modify configure.ac and corresponding kconfig and makefiles
[00:16:58] <memleak> RTAI doesn't need math to compile anyway, it will use the built-in library that is included with glibc (libm)
[00:17:25] <jepler> for user-mode sure
[00:18:10] <memleak> https://github.com/ShabbyX/RTAI/commit/9d9e8084f6a5828ab58ad55f071cc58107ed180c for a rough idea
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[02:48:06] <jepler> I sure never saw C++ work in rtai kernel space
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[03:07:06] <memleak> must have missed it when RTAI first started supporting 2.4 kernels :P
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[13:36:43] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03jepler 05jepler-halcmd-mindreader adb831d 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py * axis: Show any Python error resulting from trying to parse the file
[13:36:45] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03jepler 05jepler-halcmd-mindreader 195c797 06linuxcnc 10scripts/linuxcnc.in * runscript: don't print errors when everything is OK
[13:38:29] <jepler_> oops, pushed to wrong branch. facepalm.
[13:38:53] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03jepler 05master 6e92d3a 06linuxcnc 10scripts/linuxcnc.in * runscript: don't print errors when everything is OK
[13:38:53] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03jepler 05master 44aedad 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py * axis: Show any Python error resulting from trying to parse the file
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[13:52:11] <linuxcnc-build> build #1463 of hardy-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at
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[13:52:51] <linuxcnc-build> build #1458 of hardy-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at
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[14:07:59] <linuxcnc-build> build #1460 of precise-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
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[14:08:42] <linuxcnc-build> build #663 of precise-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
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[14:08:46] <linuxcnc-build> build #1462 of precise-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
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[14:47:13] <linuxcnc-build> build #1463 of lucid-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
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[14:47:14] <linuxcnc-build> build #1464 of checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
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[14:54:16] <jepler_> oh geez, now what did I do?
[14:55:46] <jepler_> so the hardy failures are because I used a post-2.5 Python feature
[14:57:01] <jepler_> and the other is me failing at shell scripting :-/
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[14:57:30] <jepler_> or something
[14:57:39] <jepler_> /home/buildslave/emc2-buildbot/precise-amd64/precise-amd64-sim/build/scripts/linuxcnc: line 363: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[14:57:44] <jepler_> I didn't touch anything near this line though
[14:59:22] <cradek> I see an unmatched `
[15:00:17] <jepler_> ooohhh I see it now
[15:00:33] <jepler_> at home I made the change by editing linuxcnc, and thought I made the same change in the .in file but obviously not
[15:00:42] <jepler_> I should have just gone back to bed
[15:02:19] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03jepler 05master 5a96215 06linuxcnc 10scripts/linuxcnc.in * runscript: fix typo in earlier commit
[15:02:20] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03jepler 05master d5b92e6 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py * axis: python2.5 compatiblity
[15:20:09] <jepler_> (I also rewound my private branch that I accidentally pushed to earlier; apparently kgb doesn't notice a push that is rewind-only)
[15:20:30] <cradek> poor stupid kgb
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[16:11:12] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: looks like 44aedad fixed #319
[16:11:44] <seb_kuzminsky> and i also get a deliberate error message instead of a backtrace for #318, was that intentional? awesome in any case
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[16:31:32] <cradek> yay
[16:31:51] <cradek> all that with one line of incomprehensible python
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[16:48:31] <skunkworks> I thought all python fixes are like that..
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[17:19:32] <jepler> well, i'm a bit sad that you get a message three times that the file can't be opened :-/
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[17:19:36] <jepler> one would do just fine
[17:22:35] <seb_kuzminsky> do you know what fixed #318? was it the same fix as #319?
[17:22:47] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: yes
[17:23:14] <jepler> what I don't understand is why the traceback changed from one that printed a message to the screen and reentered the event loop, to one that exited the whole process
[17:24:00] <seb_kuzminsky> will you close those two tickets?
[17:24:11] <jepler> sure
[17:24:14] <seb_kuzminsky> thx
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[17:26:39] <seb_kuzminsky> aww yea - only 91 open bugs left
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[18:42:23] <seb_kuzminsky> yay, thanks to andy for opening a ticket to track that NO_FORCE_HOMING thing that Marius Alksnys reported
[18:44:35] <seb_kuzminsky> 2.6 is a ways away still, we should be trying to get as many of these bugfixes into 2.5 as possible
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[18:48:17] <cradek> that's true. do you see anything important we've missed?
[18:50:37] <seb_kuzminsky> ben jackson's fix to blend.comp
[18:51:10] <cradek> ah, true (it was "just" a doc fix)
[18:51:37] <seb_kuzminsky> andy's g85 work
[18:52:17] <cradek> hmmm not so sure about that one
[18:52:47] <cradek> I agree with the change just fine, but I'm not sure it's a bugfix
[18:53:22] <seb_kuzminsky> you're right
[19:03:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03ben 05master b5c9d06 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/components/blend.comp * blend: Make the docs match the component behavior
[19:03:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chris 05master 85db6a8 06linuxcnc * Merge branch 'v2.5_branch'
[19:03:19] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03ben 05v2.5_branch b5c9d06 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/components/blend.comp * blend: Make the docs match the component behavior
[19:03:59] <seb_kuzminsky> cool
[19:05:33] <seb_kuzminsky> i wonder how many of the bugs people have been reporting against master are also in 2.5
[19:06:14] <cradek> we should always be watching for that
[19:06:26] <seb_kuzminsky> i agree
[19:06:31] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl
[19:06:39] <cradek> some of them may even belong in 2.4, but it's getting pretty late to worry about that.
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[19:23:59] <skunkworks> who is ebo? Do I know him?
[19:24:19] <cradek> I've never met him
[19:24:37] <skunkworks> is he on irc?
[19:24:46] <cradek> I don't think so
[19:25:58] <skunkworks> I don't think he looked at the screenshots...
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[19:27:10] <cradek> well yeah.
[19:28:43] <skunkworks> what is the dirivitive of accelleration?
[19:29:02] <cradek> jerk
[19:29:08] <skunkworks> ah - cool
[19:29:34] <skunkworks> I never went any further than that in physics..
[19:29:45] <skunkworks> that I remember anyway
[19:30:23] <cradek> with each motion derivative you can worry about it less because it means less to us in real life
[19:30:32] <cradek> we even stop having names for them pretty quick
[19:31:35] <skunkworks> I guess jerk was always something I knew about - but didn't know how it related.
[19:32:08] <skunkworks> would it also be called instantanious accelleration?
[19:32:28] <cradek> I don't know what that means, so I can't say
[19:32:37] <skunkworks> heh
[19:34:19] <skunkworks> probably not then. (just some vague recollection)
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[19:51:17] <skunkworks> jolt, surge, or lurch
[19:51:24] <skunkworks> *also known as
[19:52:19] <cradek> buck, twitch, stab, seasickness
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[20:04:28] <cradek> andypugh: seb_kuzminsky: I dreamt last night that both of you were on the bus with me, going somewhere. seb was driving, and kept being distracted by something andy was doing, and forgetting he was driving. I was trying to figure out where to keep pouring the fuel (??) while trying to keep seb paying attention.
[20:04:57] <andypugh> Bizarre.
[20:05:11] <cradek> yes.
[20:05:35] <cradek> I should have driven and made one of you pour the fuel, I guess
[20:06:21] <andypugh> Yeah, much more my style.
[20:07:14] <seb_kuzminsky> it's accurate because i hardly ever pay attention
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[20:10:51] <andypugh> Some sort of LinuxCNC-controlled fuel dispenser might have helped.
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[20:12:22] <cradek> or a funnel
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