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[04:20:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03nieson 05master bd446ad 06linuxcnc 04configs/sim/gmoccapy/gmoccapy.glade.h * gmoccapy h file gelöscht
[04:20:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05master 43cbab2 06linuxcnc 10share/ 10(11 files in 7 dirs) * gmoccapy_0_9_7_4 - modified some locale and release notes
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[05:01:05] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1345 of lucid-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
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[05:01:06] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1342 of lucid-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
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[05:01:07] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1345 of lucid-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
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[05:01:11] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1341 of lucid-rtai-i386-clang is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
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[05:01:14] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1346 of hardy-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
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[05:01:16] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1344 of hardy-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
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[05:41:03] <linuxcnc-build> build #426 of precise-amd64-rtpreempt-rip is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
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[05:41:03] <linuxcnc-build> build #452 of precise-x86-xenomai-rip is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
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[05:41:05] <linuxcnc-build> build #1141 of precise-amd64-sim-clang is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
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[05:41:07] <linuxcnc-build> build #546 of precise-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
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[05:41:08] <linuxcnc-build> build #1345 of precise-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
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[05:41:08] <linuxcnc-build> build #426 of precise-amd64-xenomai-rip is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
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[05:41:12] <linuxcnc-build> build #442 of precise-x86-rtpreempt-rip is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
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[05:41:18] <linuxcnc-build> build #1343 of precise-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
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[07:09:39] <alex_joni> ~/away
[07:09:57] <alex_joni> bah :)
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[10:59:02] <skunkworks> logger[mah],
[10:59:02] <logger[mah]> skunkworks: Log stored at
http://linuxcnc.mah.priv.at/irc/%23linuxcnc-devel/2013-09-27.html
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[14:47:59] <jepler> cradek: was git down, or was the earlier problem on the buildbot side? ^^
[14:48:47] <jepler> what the heck is configs/sim/gmoccapy/gmoccapy.glade.h for?
[14:48:50] <cradek> when I looked, it was a problem local to the buildbot that I didn't understand
[14:50:40] <jepler> oh I see that commit deleted it
[14:50:48] <jepler> so I guess I don't care what it was
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[15:00:58] <skunkworks> is there a way to know what branch I am running?
[15:01:19] <skunkworks> (if branch is the right word)
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[15:28:52] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky, !
[15:33:33] <seb_kuzminsky> hi! :-)
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[15:36:39] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler, cradek : i was having horrible network problems last night, is that what you were talking about?
[15:36:57] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks: if you're in a checked-out git repo, run "git branch" to find out what branch you're on
[15:37:41] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: nope - I was talking about
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-sim/builds/1343/steps/git/logs/stdio
[15:37:50] <cradek> looks like your local git repo was/is corrupt?
[15:38:02] <seb_kuzminsky> ugh
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[15:41:40] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: i think the git repo looks ok, and buildbot's running of that 'git reset' looks wrong
[15:41:52] <seb_kuzminsky> here's the previous build to the one that failed, this one worked:
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-sim/builds/1342/steps/git/logs/stdio
[15:42:24] <seb_kuzminsky> looks like it gets a change-notification from the repo, then tries to reset to the new version before fetching
[15:42:55] <seb_kuzminsky> that fails, then it fetches, then it tries to reset to that version again and it succeeds (because it just fetched it)
[15:43:08] <seb_kuzminsky> so i think the problem in build 1343 is that the 'git fetch' didn't work
[15:43:23] <cradek> oh > command timed out: 2400 seconds without output, attempting to kill
[15:43:25] <seb_kuzminsky> which i'm happy to attribute to my super flaky network last night
[15:43:25] <cradek> I didn't see that
[15:43:35] <cradek> so it was just a network problem
[15:43:39] <seb_kuzminsky> i think so
[15:43:40] <cradek> yay
[15:43:55] <seb_kuzminsky> now, why my network glitched i don't know....
[15:44:31] <seb_kuzminsky> if this guy comes down an order of magnitude in price, i may buy his robot arm:
https://boulder.craigslist.org/ele/4091686556.html
[15:45:14] <seb_kuzminsky> it's about the same size as the one i got from mozmck, but this one appears to have functional belts still
[15:46:42] <cradek> $600 !!!
[15:46:48] <cradek> that's silly
[15:47:06] <cradek> just build an arm that's how you want it
[15:47:09] <seb_kuzminsky> it's not out of line with ebay prices for that model, but yes, it's silly
[15:47:15] <seb_kuzminsky> heh yeah
[15:47:26] <seb_kuzminsky> really i want to play with software, not build a robot
[15:47:38] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl, coffee & coconut milk
[15:47:40] <cradek> well the simulator works...
[15:47:43] <cradek> yum
[15:48:42] <skunkworks> mhaberler, so - this is what I get. (and I am running the latest branch as far as I can tell)
http://pastebin.ca/2459192
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[15:50:25] <mhaberler> I did test this only with pci/5i25
[15:51:07] <jepler> to me it still looks like the output is truncated
[15:51:24] <jepler> for encoder.00 it goes on to create two more parameters compared to what it does for encoder.01
[15:51:27] <jepler> according to the log
[15:51:50] <jepler> unless it's crashing out undiagnosed, but I assume at this point hal is still working
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[15:55:49] <skunkworks> it actaully creates the pins and hal is running show works and displays correctly
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[15:56:52] <mhaberler> you posted a message about rsyslogd throttling the rate yesterday
[15:57:19] <mhaberler> do you still have that? we might be fixing the wrong problem here
[15:58:06] <mhaberler> something about imux
[15:58:08] <skunkworks> http://pastebin.ca/2458848
[15:58:11] <skunkworks> last line
[15:58:30] <skunkworks> that was in the syslog... Which seems to be getting everything that linuxcnc.log is getting
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[15:59:19] <mhaberler> well that is it, rsyslogd gets overwhelmed and rate limiting kicks in
[15:59:21] <jepler> is this a setting that has become more obnoxious on newer ubuntu? I've never encountered this.,
[15:59:26] <jepler> or is it because dmesg is not subject to the limit?
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[16:00:19] <mhaberler> the latter could well be it, dmesg doesnt go through rsyslog
[16:00:35] <mhaberler> it think it just accesses the kernel message buffer
[16:01:01] <jepler> can you make the new stuff log without going through rsyslog? if the default configuration of rsyslog is going to truncate people's logs something will have to be done
[16:01:07] <jepler> even if it's prose nobody will read about how to modify configuration files
[16:01:46] <mhaberler> that's certainly an option, I'll see what can be done here
[16:02:37] <skunkworks> http://www.rsyslog.com/tag/rate-limiting/
[16:03:37] <skunkworks> let me see if I can change the rsyslog.conf
[16:04:08] <mhaberler> the default limit is 200msgs in 5 secs
[16:04:23] <mhaberler> this explains how:
http://www.rsyslog.com/tag/rate-limiting/
[16:05:32] <mhaberler> try this (/etc/rsyslog.conf):
[16:05:34] <mhaberler> $ModLoad imuxsock # provides support for local system logging
[16:05:34] <mhaberler> $SystemLogRateLimitInterval 2
[16:05:35] <mhaberler> $SystemLogRateLimitBurst 1000
[16:05:47] <mhaberler> then
[16:05:48] <mhaberler> service rsyslog restart
[16:06:06] <mhaberler> add the two $System… lines
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[16:11:01] <mhaberler> actually the increased limits could be added to src/rtapi/rsyslogd-linuxcnc.conf , but I'm unsure how to properly install that file
[16:11:27] <jepler> no rsyslog.conf.d?
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[16:11:55] <mhaberler> well yes, copying to /etc/rsyslog.d ; John didnt approve ;)
[16:12:21] <jepler> oh?
[16:12:27] <jepler> well for RIP builds we wouldn't go doing it
[16:12:59] <mhaberler> it's just a note in the UnifiedBuild.txt file: sudo cp src/rtapi/rsyslogd-linuxcnc.conf /etc/rsyslog.d
[16:13:14] <mhaberler> right, RIP was the issue
[16:13:40] <mhaberler> actually there's another case or two:
[16:14:46] <mhaberler> src/rtapi/shmdrv/limits.d-linuxcnc.conf
[16:14:56] <mhaberler> and a boot option needed on some kernels:
[16:15:26] <jepler> but backing up .. is it mandatory in ubc3 that logging goes through rsyslogd instead of coming out on a terminal?
[16:15:53] <jepler> I always liked about the old sim that the information I wanted was in the terminal; dmesg (or /var/log/kern.log) was a necessary evil
[16:16:16] <cradek> in rip I'd also prefer stdout
[16:16:18] <mhaberler> it goes to syslog; if you pass --stderr to rtapi_msgd it should write to stderr too which should hit the terminal where realtime was started
[16:16:35] <jepler> what do you change in order to cause --stderr to be passed to rtapi_msgd?
[16:16:42] <skunkworks> Yay!
http://pastebin.ca/2459203
[16:16:42] <jepler> I mean, you don't directly start rtapi_msgd do you?
[16:16:42] <mhaberler> that turns on LOG_PERROR
[16:17:04] <mhaberler> no, thats from scripts/realtime
[16:17:28] <jepler> DEBUG=5 MSGD_OPTS="--stderr" realtime start >logfile 2>&1
[16:17:32] <jepler> ok, found the docs now
[16:17:32] <mhaberler> right
[16:18:03] <mhaberler> it is actually used in the hm2-idrom test
[16:18:14] <jepler> that test passes now? nice.
[16:18:45] <jepler> (for some reason I thought it was a sticking point but I don't recall the detail now)
[16:18:49] <mhaberler> well it starts realtime 15 times and each run only inspects its run's logfile
[16:19:01] <mhaberler> guessing which run was doing what was the issue
[16:19:23] <mhaberler> the pattern matching was fragile
[16:19:29] <jepler> anyway, I guess I can export MSGD_OPTS=--stderr and have what I want so that's good
[16:19:50] <mhaberler> right, that was the intent - for debugging configs or so
[16:20:53] <mhaberler> ah, good, everything there now
[16:21:58] <mhaberler> yeah John didnt like fiddling /etc unasked in a RIP install; not sure how to deal with that and the other candidates
[16:22:48] <mhaberler> in the minimum sudo make setuid should say so, or ask permission
[16:23:05] <jepler> sudo some-new-targetname
[16:23:35] <mhaberler> ok, and make setuid could check if the parts needed are in place
[16:23:46] <mhaberler> if not, output a warning
[16:23:58] <mhaberler> or suggestion to run new-target
[16:25:19] <mhaberler> I observed the vmalloc= cmdline option being needed only with a single kernel (cant remember which one, maybe raspberry), but it might imply update-grub eventually, or editing /etc/default/grub
[16:26:09] <skunkworks> looks good with all debuging enabled..
http://pastebin.ca/2459204
[16:27:46] <mhaberler> well thats almost 900 lines of startup log in 1-2secs, 1000 might be a tad low
[16:28:09] <mhaberler> I am beginning to understand why rate limiting was implemented ;)
[16:29:09] <mhaberler> ok, will add the raised limits to the rsyslog.conf fragment and add a check & target to the make setuid phase
[16:29:10] <skunkworks> I set it to 4000 before I figured out that I wasn't actually restarting the service.
[16:29:16] <skunkworks> :)
[16:29:31] <mhaberler> ah, demons not watching their configs
[16:29:38] <jepler> add it next to the bit that checks if "make setuid" is needed?
[16:29:46] <mhaberler> right
[16:29:52] <jepler> that sounds good to me
[16:30:05] <mhaberler> it needs to check if the fragment is in place, and options too
[16:31:16] <skunkworks> micges, did you see that? the reason I wasn't getting pin info was the rsyslog was rate liminting.
[16:31:39] <micges> hi all
[16:31:50] <mhaberler> hi micges!
[16:31:59] <micges> (reading back)
[16:32:13] <jepler> bbl
[16:33:43] <micges> skunkworks: I see it
[16:34:23] <micges> mhaberler: will it be fixed/improved?
[16:34:35] <mhaberler> logging?
[16:34:39] <micges> yeah
[16:34:42] <mhaberler> working on that right now
[16:34:48] <micges> ok
[16:35:03] <mhaberler> read back for a fix, rsyslog.conf needs prodding
[16:35:44] <mhaberler> make $SystemLogRateLimitBurst 5000 or so so you're sure it wont bite (rsyslogd does say so though)
[16:37:04] <cradek> have you made sure rsyslog is not fsyncing after each of those lines?
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[16:39:27] <pcw_home> skunkworks: whats logged when debugging is turned off?
[16:41:12] <pcw_home> I think pre-UB3 listed the pinout regardless of debug settings, which I think is the right thing
[16:41:30] <mhaberler> it does now again
[16:41:45] <mhaberler> there was a bug in the log mask setting which I fixed yesterday
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[16:43:41] <pcw_home> Thats good, its often used as a pinout reference
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[16:49:38] <mhaberler> fsyncing is optional with rsyslog (I think its $MainMsgQueueSyncQueueFiles on)
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[16:55:47] <cradek> ideally linuxcnc messages would go to their own file and that would not be fsynced for every line
[16:57:05] <jepler> I dunno, people who are busy writing system-crashing hal drivers might like the fsyncs
[16:57:16] <cradek> hm maybe
[16:59:07] <andypugh> I think only one person regularly writes system-crashing HAL drivers. Other devs are more competent :-)
[16:59:55] <micges> andypugh: you talking about me? ;)
[17:00:32] <andypugh> Of course not.
[17:02:48] <andypugh> I guess it is possible that everyone else regularly writes segfaults, I guess you only see your own.
[17:04:02] <jepler> unless you tell the world
[17:04:29] <skunkworks> pcw_home,
http://pastebin.ca/2459203 that is no debug in the hostmot line
[17:05:03] <pcw_home> I thought segfaults were the user error reporting scheme for unix programs
[17:06:23] <andypugh> Which reminds me, I have a segfault in the DPLL timer to track down :-)
[17:06:43] <andypugh> pcw_home: What HAL pins would you like to see from hm2dpll?
[17:07:00] <andypugh> So far I only have "phase"
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[17:08:29] <pcw_home> theres the frequency setting pin, the LP filter timeconstant pin, the 4 timer phases
[17:09:14] <andypugh> What does the frequency setting pin do? Also, what are the hardware pins for?
[17:09:46] <pcw_home> the DPLL has a base frequency tha must be set to match the servo thread rate
[17:10:06] <pcw_home> (it has a small lock-in range) say 2% max
[17:10:18] <andypugh> Well, in theory it can simply be told that by HAL...
[17:10:41] <andypugh> Not HAL. By the driver, I mean.
[17:11:06] <pcw_home> probably better that its separate for now
[17:11:20] <andypugh> OK, I will do it that way for now.
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[17:12:45] <pcw_home> There is some rather high magic about the DDS prescale, The trick is that for different servo thread rates and clock low rates
[17:12:46] <pcw_home> we want the DDS setting value to be about the same as the loop gain depends on the size of the DDS setting value
[17:16:01] <pcw_home> so the prescale is inversly proportional to Servo thread rate and proportional to clocklow
[17:16:02] <pcw_home> (this isbecause I didnt want to use a multiplier or barrel shifter (too big for 5I20s) to change the loop gain)
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[17:18:17] <pcw_home> the I/O pins are basically for debugging, _but_ the refout and syncin pins can be used
[17:18:19] <pcw_home> to synchronize a slave FPGA config to a master (master refout --> slave syncin)
[17:19:48] <pcw_home> the phase pin could be scaled in usec of error
[17:27:09] <andypugh> I would imagine that most folk would be more interested in keeping the hardware pins for IO.
[17:29:30] <pcw_home> Yes normally there will be no hardware pins
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[17:32:53] <pcw_home> if I arbitarily set prescale to 1 at the lowest clocklow (33 MHz) and the higest expected servo thread (say 10 KHz)
[17:32:54] <pcw_home> then the max prescale would be with a 100 mhz clocklow and 1 KHz servo thread (so prescale abou 32)
[17:33:59] <andypugh> I am rather assuming that I can push the driver then leave the tuning and testing to you, as I don't have any BiSS or Fanuc.
[17:34:32] <andypugh> How important do you think it is to fix the current 96-bit limit on BiSS?
[17:34:40] <andypugh> (INherited from smartserial)
[17:35:16] <pcw_home> Yeah it still will need futzing about with since i dont have much of an idea of jitter statistics and rate accuracy of the servo thread
[17:37:05] <pcw_home> I think 96 should be fine for now (the 512 hardware maxlength is just a side effect of using SRL16s if I made it 96 max it would have the same hardware resource usage)
[17:37:37] <andypugh> There is currently a friendly error message suggesting a feature request if it bothers anyone.
[17:38:23] <andypugh> I would need to make the current 3 registers in Smart Serial into a variable size array of registers.
[17:39:45] <pcw_home> It probably overkill I doubt than many encoder use even 96
[17:39:46] <pcw_home> note that the DPLL is useful for more than SSI,BISS.SPI etc
[17:39:48] <pcw_home> I intend to add the ability so sample inputs (encoder stepgen counts etc)
[17:39:49] <pcw_home> at offsets from the DPLL
[17:39:59] <pcw_home> ability to
[17:40:33] <pcw_home> so it can be used as a general jitter reduction scheme
[17:40:35] <andypugh> I have assumed that possibility.
[17:45:48] <pcw_home> If the DPLL driver only:
[17:45:49] <pcw_home> read the sync register in an available hal pin (scaled in usec of error might be nice)
[17:45:51] <pcw_home> and allowed setting the other registers directly
[17:45:52] <pcw_home> I could play around with it to learn more of its behaviour in a linuxcnc environment
[17:45:54] <pcw_home> (currently I'm using a 7I80 and a windows program at 64 Hz...)
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[17:48:29] <andypugh> OK, I will do that.
[17:48:54] <pcw_home> i guess the Plimit needs to be set and reading the output of the LPF would be valuable as well (scaled in delta Hz from center maybe)
[17:49:59] <pcw_home> (LPF output is called filtered phase error in the regmap)
[17:52:49] <pcw_home> The original HM2 DPLL was made for some college project several years ago
[17:52:50] <pcw_home> (they needed a 10KHz? or so signal for a Sick scanner phase locked to a GPS 1 PPS tic)
[17:57:18] <skunkworks> pcw_home, with no debug level - it also prints the pin data (and very little else)
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[17:57:36] <skunkworks> *logs the data to linuxcnc.log
[17:57:58] <pcw_home> The DPLL can also be used as just a free running timer (and generate interrupts if desired)
[17:57:59] <pcw_home> not sure how invasive supporting alternate interrupts for thread invocation is so DPLL mode
[17:58:01] <pcw_home> seemed preferable as it does not change the "linuxcnc is on charge of timing" paradigm
[17:59:42] <pcw_home> It does look like it puts a lot more in the log (all this "creating pin" stuff)
[18:00:15] <andypugh> skunkworks: You do seem to have logging turned up to "excessive"
[18:00:33] <skunkworks> well - I was trying to find the pin info... :)
[18:00:40] <andypugh> You wouldn't normally expect to need any params on the loadrt hostmot2 line
[18:01:02] <skunkworks> right
[18:02:25] <skunkworks> when the pin info wasn't showing up I increased the debug level and added the debug params to the hostmot2 line
[18:02:38] <skunkworks> (which didn't help)
[18:04:19] <pcw_home> skunkworks: is this running 12.04?
[18:04:55] <skunkworks> I think it ended up being 2 issues - an issue on mhaberler logging and dropped messages
[18:05:07] <skunkworks> pcw_home, yes
[18:05:21] <skunkworks> running ubc3 with the 7i80 stuff
[18:05:30] <pcw_home> can you try readhmid?
[18:05:46] <pcw_home> (it needs normal networking turned on_
[18:05:53] <skunkworks> how does that worik? I downloaded it and made it executable...
[18:05:55] <mhaberler> actually it was two - setlogmask() bug and rate limiting of rsyslogd; I found no trace of dropped log messages
[18:06:26] <pcw_home> It should have a better formatted pin list
[18:06:56] <pcw_home> ./readhmid but it needs some envoronment variables
[18:07:08] <pcw_home> environment
[18:07:51] <skunkworks> what do you mean by normal networking?
[18:08:13] <pcw_home> no rtnet, standard linux stack
[18:08:23] <skunkworks> ok
[18:08:35] <skunkworks> does it tell me what I have to set?
[18:08:56] <pcw_home> It should complain
[18:09:23] <skunkworks> ok
[18:09:34] <skunkworks> rebooting to use the normal e100 driver
[18:09:45] <pcw_home> but I have not tried it anywhere but on my test machine
[18:10:22] <pcw_home> (I was surprised it worked at all since it was written for windows)
[18:15:00] <skunkworks> I get no such file or directory if I do ./readhmid
[18:15:30] <mhaberler> ok, logging should be fixed in
https://github.com/mhaberler/linuxcnc/commits/ubc3-7i80-rtnet and
https://github.com/mhaberler/linuxcnc/commits/unified-build-candidate-3
[18:15:37] <pcw_home> umm is readhmid in that directory?
[18:15:49] <mhaberler> nb: ubc3-7i80-rtnet was rebased
[18:16:05] <skunkworks> no - it is on the desktop. (my linuxfoo isn't very strong)
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[18:20:45] <skunkworks> when I do a sudo ./readhmid
[18:20:51] <skunkworks> I get nothing returned
[18:21:05] <skunkworks> no errors or output at all
[18:21:24] <skunkworks> (when I am in the readhmid directory with readhmid in it.
[18:23:09] <pcw_home> Hmm thats odd, thanks for trying (sudo is not needed)
[18:24:26] <pcw_home> I'll verify that thet copy is the same one i have here (though I ran it on stack Ubuntu 12.04 not Xenomai)
[18:25:46] <skunkworks> I certainly could be doind something wrong
[18:26:56] <pcw_home> run in a terminal?
[18:26:57] <pcw_home> did it segv? Not sure how it can just exit
[18:27:19] <skunkworks> run in terminal
[18:27:55] <skunkworks> when I do it without sudo - I get a cannot find file or directory - with sudo - it just returns to command prompt
[18:28:36] <skunkworks> sorry - it says .readhmid not found when running non sudo
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[18:29:22] <pcw_home> ./?skunkworks
[18:29:31] <pcw_home> ./?
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[18:30:17] <pcw_home> chmod +x readhmid
[18:30:18] <pcw_home> ./readhmid
[18:34:16] <skunkworks> pcw_home,
http://pastebin.ca/2459227
[18:35:08] <pcw_home> ls -l ?
[18:37:38] <skunkworks> http://pastebin.ca/2459228
[18:38:16] <pcw_home> file readhmid ?
[18:38:26] <skunkworks> yes?
[18:39:12] <skunkworks> that is the readhmid file in the readhmid directory
[18:40:07] <pcw_home> OK well must be some library differnces with xenomai
[18:40:23] <micges> skunkworks: try: sh readhmid
[18:41:27] <andypugh> And don't let anyone ever tell yout Linux isn't intuitive...
[18:41:33] <skunkworks> http://pastebin.ca/2459229
[18:41:42] <skunkworks> :)
[18:42:56] <micges> skunkworks: what do you want to do?
[18:43:22] <skunkworks> I want it to do whatever pcw_home wants it to do. :)
[18:43:50] <skunkworks> I think it is supposed to show the mesa pinouts
[18:44:05] <micges> do you have mesaflash ?
[18:44:09] <pcw_home> It shoud make a nicely formatted pinout list but I suspect there are shared libs that dont match
[18:44:35] <pcw_home> (something different about xenomai)
[18:44:49] <micges> ok, mesaflash can do that
[18:45:41] <micges> ./mesaflash --device 7i80 --verbose --hm2
[18:45:50] <skunkworks> I will give it a try - but IIRC mesaflash didn't work on 12.04
[18:46:01] <skunkworks> give me a few
[18:49:53] <andypugh> pcw_home: That pin list looked pretty normal to me
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[18:50:03] <andypugh> Just buried in the other junk
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[18:50:49] <andypugh> This is what mine always look like:
http://pastebin.ca/2459231
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[19:02:40] <pcw_home> Yeah It was just that all the other debugging info was there
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[19:10:45] <skunkworks> god I must be doing something stupid. I cannot do the ./mesaflash either - file not found
[19:11:11] <skunkworks> is it because it is in my desktop?
[19:11:31] <micges> is it 32 bit system?
[19:13:24] <skunkworks> 64
[19:14:10] <micges> can you use 32 bit?
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[19:17:58] <pcw_home> Not much fun with the 7I80 unless you can use mesaflash to change the firmware
[19:18:38] <andypugh> When I get that sort of problem it is generally that I am ssh-ed into a different machine than the one I think I am :-)
[19:19:51] <pcw_home> btw micges, can you add space4 to the mesaflash memory space list?
[19:20:39] <skunkworks> well - I have other systems I can use - I have gotten mesaflash to work on 10.04 a long time ago
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[19:24:27] <micges> pcw_home: sure, what it's name?
[19:24:54] <pcw_home> you are supposed to read the name :-)
[19:25:00] <skunkworks> but doesn't 'file not found' seem like something I am doing wrong?
[19:26:19] <pcw_home> cant imagine what, unless there's some shell protection from running executables in certain places
[19:27:14] <pcw_home> but this does seem like Ive seen this before (also on ubuntu 12.04)
[19:27:36] <pcw_home> bbl
[19:28:09] <cradek> is that a script
[19:28:10] <cradek> ?
[19:28:57] <cradek> if it's a script, maybe the interpreter is missing. if it's a binary, run ldd on it and see if it has the libraries it needs
[19:29:01] <micges> mesaflash is binary
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[19:30:14] <cradek> ldd mesaflash
[19:31:51] <skunkworks> 'not a dynamic exicutable...'
[19:32:04] <cradek> file mesaflash
[19:33:20] <skunkworks> http://pastebin.ca/2459239
[19:33:51] <cradek> bbbbut that says it's dynamic
[19:33:51] <skunkworks> it runs just fine on my 10.04 virtual machine :)
[19:34:00] <cradek> uname -a
[19:34:47] <skunkworks> http://pastebin.ca/2459240
[19:35:18] <cradek> your x86_64 system may not be able to run i386 binaries
[19:35:34] <skunkworks> must be
[19:35:37] <cradek> strace -eopen ./mesaflash
[19:37:00] <skunkworks> http://pastebin.ca/2459241
[19:37:45] <cradek> huh
[19:38:07] <skunkworks> huh is right :)
[19:38:28] <micges> pcw_home: reading area 4 is give me parse error on 7i80
[19:38:43] <cradek> you should probably just get the source of mesaflash and build it for your system
[19:38:56] <skunkworks> I have the source...
[19:39:06] <cradek> you might be able to install a bunch of stuff to run incorrect binaries -- but why bother
[19:39:11] <cradek> ah, then build it
[19:42:12] <skunkworks> this doesn't look easy
[19:43:07] <skunkworks> http://pastebin.ca/2459243
[19:43:28] <skunkworks> there is a bat file in there - why oh why would there be a bat file?
[19:44:17] <cradek> uh, good question
[19:45:39] <skunkworks> micges, any insite on how to build that?
[19:47:45] <micges> skunkworks: give me email, I'll send you latest sources
[19:47:58] <skunkworks> samcoinc at gmail.com
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[19:50:10] <micges> sended
[19:50:12] <micges> back in 10 min
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[20:27:47] <micges> skunkworks: I've tried to send you many time to gmail
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[20:28:20] <micges> skunkworks: I've sended on s.. at empire...
[20:28:23] <skunkworks> I got it on my other email - thank you
[20:28:30] <micges> ok
[20:28:37] <skunkworks> I will play with it
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[21:04:58] <andypugh> pcw_home: The regmap for hm2dpll isn't that clear on what is read and what is write. Is ddssize a property of the dpll and read only?
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[21:10:34] <skunkworks> micges: how do I go about trying to build that?
[21:10:57] <micges> go there in terminal
[21:11:00] <micges> make clean
[21:11:01] <skunkworks> sure
[21:11:02] <micges> make
[21:13:18] <skunkworks> http://pastebin.ca/2459271
[21:14:27] <cradek> libpci-dev
[21:16:20] <skunkworks> ok - got further
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[21:17:59] <skunkworks> http://pastebin.ca/2459273
[21:19:45] <micges> chage line 9 in Makefile to:
[21:19:57] <micges> LIBS = lpci
[21:21:07] <skunkworks> lpci: no such file or directory
[21:22:17] <micges> hmm.. cradek help?
[21:23:20] <adb> lspci
[21:23:20] <seb_kuzminsky> should maybe be either "-lpci" or just "pci", depending on how it's used
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[21:24:14] <skunkworks> hmm - I don't think I got any errors with -lpci
[21:24:29] <seb_kuzminsky> well good!
[21:24:40] <micges> thanks seb
[21:24:50] <micges> it will go to sources
[21:25:03] <micges> skunkworks: so try ./mesaflash
[21:25:57] <skunkworks> well that looks good
[21:25:59] <skunkworks> http://pastebin.ca/2459275
[21:26:10] <skunkworks> I don't have the hardware though to actually test it :)
[21:26:22] <micges> yes it is
[21:26:41] <skunkworks> yay
[21:27:35] <skunkworks> so it may work on 64bit
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