#linuxcnc-devel | Logs for 2013-07-26

Back
[17:36:58] -!- logger[psha] [logger[psha]!~loggerpsh@195.135.238.205] has joined #linuxcnc-devel
[17:44:05] <skunkworks> If I dress up the emco configs - would that be something to put in the git?
[17:44:15] <skunkworks> heh 'the git'
[17:44:26] <skunkworks> I sound like I am 80 years old
[17:46:30] <skunkworks> it would be something like emco-lathe. And under that would be the configs - 'full-step', 'half-step' and 'stepmorph'
[17:55:32] -!- syyl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
[18:05:18] -!- IchGuckLive has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 20.0/20130329043827]]
[18:05:55] -!- vegeetz has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[18:08:06] <archivist> include the model number as there are other emco lathes
[18:08:44] <skunkworks> oh - really?
[18:09:27] <skunkworks> oh - right - within the config. (I thought you meant there are already emco lathe configs in the repository...)
[18:09:30] <skunkworks> :)
[18:09:43] -!- andypugh [andypugh!~andy2@cpc16-basl9-2-0-cust685.20-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #linuxcnc-devel
[18:10:10] <archivist> emco has had many different models
[18:11:04] <archivist> your config is specific to the 5 if I remember the model number
[18:11:51] <skunkworks> correct - the compact 5 pc
[18:12:01] <archivist> someone would be confused if he tried that on fleabay 121148848538
[18:13:51] <seb_kuzminsky> sounds like a useful sample config to have, especially
[18:14:12] <seb_kuzminsky> especially the step morphing one
[18:17:47] -!- mhaberler [mhaberler!~mhaberler@macbook.stiwoll.mah.priv.at] has joined #linuxcnc-devel
[18:20:01] krusty_ar is now known as super_man
[18:21:16] <archivist> it is yes :)
[18:34:37] -!- zzolo has quit [Quit: zzolo]
[18:40:30] -!- pjm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[18:49:12] -!- gambakufu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
[18:50:13] -!- Nick001 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
[18:50:30] -!- Nick001-Shop has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
[19:04:05] -!- ktchk has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
[19:12:02] -!- mozmck has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[19:13:17] -!- mozmck [mozmck!~moses@client-204.235.45.143.wcfltx.partnershipbroadband.com] has joined #linuxcnc-devel
[19:18:07] -!- erasmo [erasmo!~erasmo@212.106.16.19] has joined #linuxcnc-devel
[19:18:42] -!- xxoxx has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
[19:20:23] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03john 05unified-build-candidate-0 25d3176 06linuxcnc 10scripts/realtime.in * realtime.in: fix shm checking
[19:20:23] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03john 05unified-build-candidate-0 aa0df1f 06linuxcnc 10scripts/realtime.in * realtime: thorough shmdrv checks; DEBUG value always decimal
[19:20:27] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03john 05unified-build-candidate-0 00d2486 06linuxcnc 10scripts/realtime.in * realtime.in: more thorough CheckStatus() checks
[19:20:33] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03john 05unified-build-candidate-0 ec79b43 06linuxcnc 10scripts/realtime.in * realtime: revert extended shmdrv tests
[19:20:48] super_man is now known as krusty_ar
[19:21:16] * zultron twiddles his thumbs
[19:22:09] <zultron> linuxcnc-build: commands
[19:22:09] <linuxcnc-build> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, force, hello, help, last, list, mute, notify, source, status, stop, unmute, version, watch
[19:23:02] <cradek> ETA 1:34:06
[19:23:33] <zultron> Ah, you mean it's already doing its thing?
[19:23:44] <cradek> yeah, you don't have to do anything
[19:23:48] <zultron> Oh, nice. :)
[19:23:59] <cradek> the git server pokes it for you
[19:24:08] <zultron> I expected it would tell me something....
[19:24:21] <cradek> it generally only reports failures
[19:24:29] <cradek> unless you tell it otherwise with notify
[19:24:42] <cradek> but you can always see what it's doing on the webpages
[19:24:54] <cradek> http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/grid
[19:25:34] <cradek> the right column is the most recent
[19:25:39] <zultron> Ah hah, thanks!
[19:25:55] <linuxcnc-build> build #1217 of hardy-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-realtime-rip/builds/1217 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[19:25:58] <cradek> heh
[19:26:11] <cradek> oh that's an expected one
[19:26:17] <linuxcnc-build> build #1221 of hardy-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-amd64-sim/builds/1221 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[19:26:23] <cradek> and that one
[19:26:24] <linuxcnc-build> build #1219 of hardy-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-sim/builds/1219 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[19:26:35] <zultron> Oh yeah
[19:26:38] <mhaberler> Seb, cradek: I have outlined a fix for the shmdrv startup issues in the tracker; it only 'needs to be done'. The gist is - it is much easier to do this in the first process (rtapi_msgd) in C, rather than in scripts/realtime.
[19:27:50] <mhaberler> Seb: thanks for the control.in fix - sorry
[19:40:45] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: notify list
[19:40:46] <linuxcnc-build> The following events are being notified: ['failure']
[19:44:07] -!- BJfreeman has quit [Quit: had a good time]
[19:47:14] <zultron> Ah!
[19:54:03] -!- psha has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
[20:01:40] <linuxcnc-build> build #301 of precise-amd64-xenomai-rip is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-amd64-xenomai-rip/builds/301 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[20:02:58] <linuxcnc-build> build #327 of precise-x86-xenomai-rip is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-x86-xenomai-rip/builds/327 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[20:19:59] <zultron> ...as expected. Working out the fix right now....
[20:20:24] -!- skunkworks has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[20:21:22] <linuxcnc-build> build #1218 of precise-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-sim/builds/1218 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[20:23:17] <linuxcnc-build> build #418 of precise-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-realtime-rip/builds/418 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[20:23:44] <linuxcnc-build> build #1220 of precise-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-amd64-sim/builds/1220 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[20:24:05] -!- CNCTEC has quit [Client Quit]
[20:25:32] <linuxcnc-build> build #317 of precise-x86-rtpreempt-rip is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-x86-rtpreempt-rip/builds/317 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[20:26:03] <linuxcnc-build> build #301 of precise-amd64-rtpreempt-rip is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-amd64-rtpreempt-rip/builds/301 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[20:26:34] <zultron> seb_kuzminsky, can I bother you to do a realtime stop on those hosts?
[20:27:16] <linuxcnc-build> build #1220 of lucid-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-amd64-sim/builds/1220 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[20:27:19] <zultron> No, wait, not sure I looked closely enough.
[20:28:37] <seb_kuzminsky> zultron: i'm around, let me know if i can help somehow
[20:29:02] -!- sparr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
[20:30:40] <linuxcnc-build> build #1217 of lucid-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-i386-sim/builds/1217 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[20:31:55] <linuxcnc-build> build #1220 of lucid-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-i386-realtime-rip/builds/1220 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[20:31:55] <linuxcnc-build> build #1215 of checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/1215 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[20:35:05] -!- DJ9DJ has quit [Quit: bye]
[20:38:23] -!- abenrob has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[20:39:43] -!- pjm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[20:54:07] -!- kwallace1 [kwallace1!~kwallace@smb-62.sonnet.com] has joined #linuxcnc-devel
[20:57:06] -!- kwallace2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
[21:00:40] -!- FinboySlick has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[21:03:21] -!- skunkworks [skunkworks!~chatzilla@str-broadband-ccmts-ws-26.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #linuxcnc-devel
[21:03:34] -!- erasmo has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[21:06:56] -!- ler_hydra has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[21:07:23] -!- zzolo has quit [Quit: zzolo]
[21:09:13] -!- zeehero has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
[21:10:05] -!- garthur has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
[21:10:52] -!- sparr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
[21:15:36] -!- adb [adb!~IonMoldom@22-56.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #linuxcnc-devel
[21:21:18] -!- stsydow has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[21:26:04] -!- chillly has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[21:34:02] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03john 05unified-build-candidate-0 2e92b3a 06linuxcnc 10src/ 10Makefile 10Makefile.inc.in 10configure.in 10rtapi/xeno_math/Makefile * Fix gcc multilib bug in precise
[21:36:12] <zultron> seb_kuzminsky, yeah, if you or cradek want to help, pull the branch and try building it yourselves.
[21:36:48] <zultron> It'll be warty, but that would be a big help to get more testers who know what they're doing.
[21:38:13] <zultron> It's pretty daunting feeding these fixes into the buildbot but not having any way to get in there & look.
[21:39:01] <seb_kuzminsky> you don't have a precise vm to test on?
[21:39:29] <zultron> I have a crappy box I've installed it on, but it doesn't behave like your buildbots.
[21:39:35] <linuxcnc-build> build #1222 of hardy-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-amd64-sim/builds/1222 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[21:39:40] <linuxcnc-build> build #1218 of hardy-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-realtime-rip/builds/1218 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[21:39:48] <seb_kuzminsky> i built once or twice last night and checked in a fix for the first blocker i ran in to
[21:40:13] <zultron> Great! Keep it up! :)
[21:40:18] <seb_kuzminsky> i wonder why your machine behaves differently than mine?
[21:40:20] <zultron> Really, just reports would help.
[21:40:22] <linuxcnc-build> build #1220 of hardy-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-sim/builds/1220 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[21:40:35] <zultron> Patches are better, of course.
[21:40:37] <seb_kuzminsky> i built successfully on lucid-rtai-i386 today...
[21:40:49] <mhaberler> great, runtests ok?
[21:41:07] <seb_kuzminsky> i posted about it up above
[21:41:18] <mhaberler> sorry, I was away
[21:41:33] <seb_kuzminsky> my machine locked up during the rtapi.0 test, not sure if it's because of a bug or because of a flaky VM (virtualbox on a mac)
[21:41:36] <zultron> 'fraid I missed it too. ;(
[21:41:41] <zultron> Oh, right, saw that.
[21:42:02] <zultron> Did you try running posix threads?
[21:42:11] <seb_kuzminsky> there's been an an unusally large volume of builbot complaining on #linuxcnc-devel lately, it's hard to find the signal in all the noise ;-)
[21:42:19] <seb_kuzminsky> i haven't tried posix threads, i'll do that now
[21:42:31] <zultron> FLAVOR=posix runtests
[21:42:41] <mhaberler> locked up? any console messages?
[21:43:01] <seb_kuzminsky> totally locked up, no response to the keyboard or mouse or ping, nothing on the console
[21:43:36] <zultron> buh
[21:43:49] <seb_kuzminsky> might be the VM
[21:43:56] <mhaberler> that is rather bizarre since this is a userland program
[21:44:24] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, i've checked out ub-c-0 on a precise amd64 machine (vanilla kernel)
[21:44:48] <mhaberler> personally I do not use RTAI on vbox any more since a long time - this is just very unstable, so IMO that doesnt say too much
[21:45:00] <seb_kuzminsky> do you care about sim builds/tests? or just rtai?
[21:45:27] <mhaberler> sure, all of them
[21:45:48] <zultron> Build anything that's on the machine, and test what flavors can be tested.
[21:46:08] <seb_kuzminsky> configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --enable-simulator
[21:46:16] <seb_kuzminsky> how do you spell enable-simulator in ub-language?
[21:46:41] <zultron> For configure, use no arguments, it'll build posix threads automatically.
[21:46:50] <seb_kuzminsky> k
[21:46:53] <zultron> For testing, use FLAVOR=posix runtests
[21:47:18] <zultron> If your RIP environment is set up, you can type 'flavor' to see what the default would be.
[21:47:56] <seb_kuzminsky> checking whether to build POSIX threads... yes
[21:48:08] <seb_kuzminsky> checking whether to build RT_PREEMPT threads... yes
[21:48:09] <zultron> Before any of the usual commands, you can set the FLAVOR env var to select the default flavor, including "FLAVOR=posix flavor". :)
[21:48:21] -!- sparr has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
[21:49:22] <mhaberler> the configure details are here: Section 'Configuring and Building: The Basic procedure' , http://static.mah.priv.at/public/UnifiedBuild.html
[21:49:23] <zultron> hopefully it found RTAI
[21:49:44] <seb_kuzminsky> this is on a vanilla machine now
[21:51:02] <zultron> Ok, then it should pick posix as the default.
[21:52:42] <seb_kuzminsky> it said it's building rt-preempt threads?
[21:52:47] <seb_kuzminsky> in addition to posix
[21:52:50] <mhaberler> that you get for free
[21:53:02] <zultron> It does that because there are no special build dependencies.
[21:53:04] <seb_kuzminsky> because rt-preempt threads == posix threads?
[21:53:18] <zultron> Same code base, but built separately.
[21:53:22] <mhaberler> codewise yes; systemcallwise - not quite
[21:53:31] <seb_kuzminsky> huh
[21:53:43] <zultron> You can control that with "./configure --with-posix", and you'll get only posix threads.
[21:53:49] <mhaberler> posix == rt-preempt minus rt hardening (shm lock, prefault, etc)
[21:54:02] <seb_kuzminsky> gotcha
[21:54:47] -!- tmcw has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[21:54:48] <zultron> (or ./configure --without-rt-preempt, and you'll get everything possible *but* rt-preempt)
[21:54:53] <seb_kuzminsky> cool
[21:55:16] <seb_kuzminsky> so i ran './configure --disable-build-documentation', it picked posix and rt-preempt for me as noted, and i ran make
[21:55:27] <mhaberler> perfect
[21:55:27] <seb_kuzminsky> the make finished but now it wants me to run 'sudo make setuid'
[21:55:28] <zultron> perfect.
[21:55:36] <andypugh> I do wish you could have chosen to spell FLAVOUR correctly!
[21:55:38] <zultron> Yes
[21:55:45] <mhaberler> yes, because posix can optionally do I/O if you want it to
[21:55:51] <seb_kuzminsky> ah
[21:56:00] <mhaberler> which is the mythical 'garden sprinkler' application
[21:56:28] <zultron> Not mythical, it's for real!
[21:56:33] <seb_kuzminsky> i ran 'sudo make setuid' and it copied a bunch of files into my /etc, which is not right
[21:56:46] <zultron> That's not right.
[21:57:11] <seb_kuzminsky> installing /etc/udev/rules.d/50-LINUXCNC-shmdrv.rules
[21:57:11] <seb_kuzminsky> installing /etc/security/limits.d/linuxcnc.conf
[21:57:34] <mhaberler> anyway - lets revisit this later: make sure you have logging set up as outlined in the document above, or you wont see much
[21:57:35] <zultron> Something wonky there.
[21:57:46] <zultron> Check line 634 of the Makefile.
[21:58:03] <zultron> Oh, whoops. :P
[21:58:09] <seb_kuzminsky> oops ;-)
[21:58:47] <seb_kuzminsky> so i need to restart syslogd to see any output?
[21:58:57] <mhaberler> sudo cp src/rtapi/rsyslogd-linuxcnc.conf /etc/rsyslog.d ; sudo service rsyslog restart; tail -f /var/log/linuxcnc.log
[21:58:58] <seb_kuzminsky> i'll have to come back to this later, my dayjob demands
[22:00:34] -!- tmcw has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
[22:04:13] -!- hhhh has quit [Quit: Page closed]
[22:05:19] -!- vladimirek has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[22:06:37] -!- zzolo has quit [Quit: zzolo]
[22:09:28] <zultron> I'll be on sporadically for the next hour, then off for a few hours. See y'all
[22:20:33] -!- zzolo has quit [Client Quit]
[22:29:52] <seb_kuzminsky> the build recipe has changed - even non-realtime builds (sim aka posix) now require a 'sudo setuid' step
[22:29:56] -!- servos4ever has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.11/20101206162726]]
[22:30:06] <seb_kuzminsky> this will be tricky to accomodate in the buildbot
[22:31:10] <seb_kuzminsky> is there some way to get the log output on stdout/stderr like before?
[22:33:30] <mhaberler> 'the log' - you mean of a realtime run?
[22:33:45] <mhaberler> rtapi_print etc?
[22:34:47] <linuxcnc-build> build #1219 of precise-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-sim/builds/1219 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[22:34:51] <mhaberler> if this is what you want, please see section 'Capturing the complete log of a single session' in http://static.mah.priv.at/public/UnifiedBuild.html
[22:34:55] <linuxcnc-build> build #1221 of precise-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-amd64-sim/builds/1221 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[22:35:42] <mhaberler> the method is used for instance in the hm2-idrom test now, to get a log of a single realtime run, so it doesnt have to dig through a logfile guessing where a run started
[22:35:47] <linuxcnc-build> build #419 of precise-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-realtime-rip/builds/419 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[22:36:21] -!- skorasaurus2 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
[22:36:29] <linuxcnc-build> build #318 of precise-x86-rtpreempt-rip is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-x86-rtpreempt-rip/builds/318 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[22:39:17] -!- odogono has quit [Quit: odogono]
[22:39:39] -!- kjn has quit [Quit: Quit]
[22:41:14] <linuxcnc-build> build #302 of precise-amd64-rtpreempt-rip is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-amd64-rtpreempt-rip/builds/302 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[22:41:15] <seb_kuzminsky> got any plans for libudev on hardy?
[22:42:30] <linuxcnc-build> build #1218 of lucid-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-i386-sim/builds/1218 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[22:42:55] <linuxcnc-build> build #1221 of lucid-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-amd64-sim/builds/1221 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[22:43:01] <mhaberler> I did this effort to get rid of old platforms after all, so I have zero plans for hardy
[22:43:55] <seb_kuzminsky> this is news to me
[22:44:54] <linuxcnc-build> build #302 of precise-amd64-xenomai-rip is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-amd64-xenomai-rip/builds/302 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[22:46:54] <linuxcnc-build> build #1221 of lucid-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-i386-realtime-rip/builds/1221 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[22:47:03] <linuxcnc-build> build #328 of precise-x86-xenomai-rip is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-x86-xenomai-rip/builds/328 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[22:47:03] <linuxcnc-build> build #1216 of checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/1216 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[22:48:06] <zultron> Ok, xenomai flavors now build on the precise buildbots.
[22:48:57] <seb_kuzminsky> sweet!
[22:49:07] <seb_kuzminsky> zultron, do you care about supporting hardy at all?
[22:50:00] <skunkworks> I thought I remember a discussion about not worrying about hardy anymore..
[22:50:17] <seb_kuzminsky> we dropped 64-bit rtai on hardy, maybe that's what you're thinking about?
[22:50:35] <seb_kuzminsky> because there were 0 package downloads of that flavor since we created it
[22:50:55] <seb_kuzminsky> dropping support for hardy all together seems like it should be a group decision, at the very least
[22:51:14] <zultron> No, I don't want to support hardy at all.
[22:51:24] <skunkworks> put it on the agenda!! :)
[22:51:37] <zultron> I've already spent a LOT of time trying to fix problems on that obsolete platform.
[22:51:37] <mhaberler> yes it should
[22:51:55] <zultron> Just in time for tomorrow, hope it's not locked yt.
[22:51:58] <mhaberler> I understand the reason why we kept running on end-of-life platforms was because we were locked-in by the rtai kernel. That is going away for the better part.
[22:52:15] <seb_kuzminsky> the agenda was closed earlier this week
[22:52:19] <seb_kuzminsky> mail to the list?
[22:52:40] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm not opposed to dropping hardy for 2.6, but it should be discussed
[22:52:54] <seb_kuzminsky> and we'll need to figure out how to handle it in terms of release building etc
[22:52:54] <mhaberler> right
[22:53:08] <zultron> Nope, read-only already.
[22:53:19] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl
[22:54:05] <zultron> Let's mail the list. This is the reason the agenda's locked is so there are no surprises.
[22:54:54] <mhaberler> I would'nt rate an end-of-life decision for hardy among 'surprises' ;)
[22:54:55] -!- Jp11 has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[22:55:29] <zultron> Ha ha!
[22:55:36] <zultron> I just mean, no surprise items on the agenda.
[23:01:15] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03john 05unified-build-candidate-0 9e8d638 06linuxcnc 10tests/overrun/test.sh * Undo hack to overrun test
[23:01:30] <zultron> Alright, one more try....
[23:03:01] -!- adb has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
[23:04:00] -!- mozmck has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
[23:06:47] -!- two_tired has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[23:07:07] <linuxcnc-build> build #1223 of hardy-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-amd64-sim/builds/1223 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[23:07:40] <linuxcnc-build> build #1219 of hardy-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-realtime-rip/builds/1219 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[23:08:04] <linuxcnc-build> build #1221 of hardy-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-sim/builds/1221 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[23:19:40] -!- Kenneth_Lerman [Kenneth_Lerman!~chatzilla@24-151-1-146.static.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #linuxcnc-devel
[23:41:30] -!- AR_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
[23:48:57] <linuxcnc-build> build #1220 of precise-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-sim/builds/1220 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[23:50:00] <linuxcnc-build> build #319 of precise-x86-rtpreempt-rip is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-x86-rtpreempt-rip/builds/319 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[23:50:29] <linuxcnc-build> build #1222 of precise-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-amd64-sim/builds/1222 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[23:50:57] -!- joe9 has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[23:51:24] <zultron> WOO HOO!
[23:51:31] <zultron> What can I say? I have low standards.
[23:51:35] <linuxcnc-build> build #1222 of lucid-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-amd64-sim/builds/1222 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[23:52:20] <zultron> bbl
[23:52:32] -!- mozmck [mozmck!~moses@client-204.235.45.143.wcfltx.partnershipbroadband.com] has joined #linuxcnc-devel
[23:53:17] <linuxcnc-build> build #303 of precise-amd64-rtpreempt-rip is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-amd64-rtpreempt-rip/builds/303 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[23:54:02] <linuxcnc-build> build #1219 of lucid-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-i386-sim/builds/1219 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[23:55:49] <linuxcnc-build> build #1222 of lucid-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-i386-realtime-rip/builds/1222 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[23:55:51] <linuxcnc-build> build #303 of precise-amd64-xenomai-rip is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-amd64-xenomai-rip/builds/303 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>
[23:57:08] <linuxcnc-build> build #329 of precise-x86-xenomai-rip is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-x86-xenomai-rip/builds/329 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>