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[00:17:18] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03dgarrett 05master adc224f 06linuxcnc 10(6 files in 4 dirs) * pyngcgui fixes for deb packaging
[00:17:56] <linuxcnc-build> build #1143 of hardy-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-amd64-sim/builds/1143 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[00:17:59] <linuxcnc-build> build #1139 of hardy-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-realtime-rip/builds/1139 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[00:17:59] <linuxcnc-build> build #1141 of hardy-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-sim/builds/1141 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[00:18:07] <linuxcnc-build> build #1139 of lucid-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-i386-realtime-rip/builds/1139 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[00:18:08] <linuxcnc-build> build #1138 of lucid-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-i386-sim/builds/1138 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[00:18:09] <linuxcnc-build> build #1140 of lucid-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-amd64-sim/builds/1140 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[00:18:11] <linuxcnc-build> build #1138 of lucid-rtai-i386-clang is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-rtai-i386-clang/builds/1138 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[00:18:51] <cradek> !??
[00:20:13] <cradek> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=master checkin
[00:20:19] <linuxcnc-build> The build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts
[00:23:11] <dgarr> hmm: fatal: unable to connect to git.linuxcnc.org
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[01:33:40] <linuxcnc-build> build #1137 of checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
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[01:33:40] <linuxcnc-build> build forced [ETA 1h18m39s]
[01:33:40] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[02:30:38] <seb_kuzminsky> prolly my home network on the blink again :-(
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[03:20:41] <linuxcnc-build> Hey! build checkin #1138 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[03:20:41] <linuxcnc-build> Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/1138
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[03:49:14] <cradek> yay
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[03:59:15] <seb_kuzminsky> so i think jeff figured out the linuxcncrsh test problem, using cradek's unbehiddenning insight
[04:00:02] <seb_kuzminsky> http://linuxcnc.mah.priv.at/irc/%23linuxcnc-devel/2013-07-03.html#14:27:33
[04:06:34] <seb_kuzminsky> the test.sh script writes "set home 0" to its socket, which goes to linuxcncrsh, which sends an NML command to task, which sends a message to motion, which is supposed to home and update the emcmotStatus flags to indicate that it's done
[04:07:06] <seb_kuzminsky> the emcmotStatus struct gets sent back from motion to task, and when that completes, task knows the joint is homed
[04:07:19] <seb_kuzminsky> until that happens, task considers the joint un-homed, and disallows mdi
[04:11:36] <seb_kuzminsky> i use 'set set_wait done' early in the test, which the linuxcncrsh docs say should wait until the command is complete before sending the next one to linuxcnc
[04:11:46] <seb_kuzminsky> i wonder if task reports the command complete when it sends it to motion?
[04:19:17] <seb_kuzminsky> status communication from motion to task looks pretty sketchy
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[15:34:25] <mhaberler> hm, there seems to be a way to force a Xenomai RT thread back to primary (RT mode) after it has been relegated to linux-class scheduling; that means it is a reversible operation: see T_CONFORMING
http://www.xenomai.org/documentation/xenomai-2.6/html/api/group__task.html#ga915e7edfb0aaddb643794d7abc7093bf
[15:35:27] <mhaberler> meaning all thread systems have the same semantics - an RT violation is recorded but RT mode continues
[15:38:44] <pcw_home> Thats probably for the best as a RT timing violation may be minor enough in some cases
[15:38:45] <pcw_home> that its best to muddle on (and in any case RT shutdown should be up to user choice in these cases)
[15:39:49] <mhaberler> right, I'll record faults in a hal pin in hal_lib.c and a way to convey an estop signal associated with a limit on faults
[15:40:57] <mhaberler> maybe not the absolute count but the rate could be considered
[15:41:08] <cradek> oh that's good news
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[17:22:48] <mhaberler> jepler: xenomai would actually give useful stats:
http://www.xenomai.org/documentation/xenomai-2.6/html/api/structrt__task__info.html ; unfortunately thats xenomai-only; both modeswitches and pagefaults
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[17:30:48] <CaptHindsight> Lars and Alec are working on some in kernel debugger to trace the pagefaults and any other issue if it turns out to not be pagefaults causing the RT-PREEMPT problems
[17:31:13] <CaptHindsight> this should be interesting
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[17:44:21] <mhaberler> jepler: around? I'm considering flavor-specific pins in hal_lib for stats; this would help pinpointing problems much more accurately, for instance in xenomai one could pinpoint pf's, involuntary mode switches etc at the thread level (besides optionally backtracing the frame which caused a mode switch)
[17:45:39] <mhaberler> also, turns out the permanent switch to linux scheduling was a red herring; this happens only temporarily until one of several Xenomai calls, including rt_task_wait_period(), all of which switch back the thread to primary mode
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[17:46:30] <mhaberler> so in fact there's nothing to do except report/set halpins in the SIGXCPU handler which executes in linux mode
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[18:05:45] <dgarr> i wanted to test a recent buildbot deb for lucid, master,sim,i386 but it complained about libmodbus5
[18:05:54] <dgarr> transcript:
http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/l.txt
[18:06:16] <dgarr> i forced install but wonder is this a bug or is there a deb for libmodbus5 for lucid?
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[18:07:31] <mhaberler> Seb created one, yes
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[18:08:19] <cradek> deb
http://linuxcnc.org/ lucid base
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[18:08:44] <cradek> ^ add this to sources.list
[18:08:57] <dgarr> ok thanks
[18:09:27] <cradek> then I think to fix it up: apt-get update; apt-get -f install
[18:10:42] <cradek> dgarr: thanks for working on packaging
[18:12:36] <dgarr> i'm struggling with packaging -- i've worked mostly in precise and some things not working with lucid, it make take some time yet
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[20:41:50] <JT-Shop> are the numbered parameters for the coordinate sytems #5221-#5390 read only? the manual suggests the tool parameters are
[20:42:33] <cradek> no
[20:42:57] <JT-Shop> ok, thanks
[20:49:56] <cradek> but there is no reason to set those directly unless you're looking for trouble
[20:50:16] <cradek> if there had been read-only parameters when those were introduced they probably would've been read-only
[20:51:07] <JT-Shop> that's kinda what I was thinking
[20:51:34] <JT-Shop> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/20-g-code/26728-g10-l2#36367
[20:52:57] <cradek> yeah the answer is no. for one thing they don't take effect if you change the active system
[20:53:18] <cradek> for another thing you're asking to be bitten by units conversion
[20:53:42] <cradek> so why would you do that? (the original questioner doesn't give us any indication why he's asking)
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[20:55:22] <JT-Shop> I sometimes wonder about the things they try and do
[20:57:06] <JT-Shop> thanks for looking at it
[20:57:11] <cradek> sure np
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