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[15:38:20] <zultron> Share the wealth already. ;)
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[16:05:11] <seb_kuzminsky> hey zultron
[16:07:58] <zultron> Hi, seb_kuzminsky !
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[18:14:32] <skunkworks> zultron: heh - it is a small xyz mill training mill
[18:19:17] <zultron> It's cute. Almost would fit in your pocket. :)
[18:24:55] <zultron> jepler, we talked sometime back about the issues surrounding keeping kmodules in /lib/modules/<kver>, and you (I think) said a previously-encountered problem was the modules being loaded automatically by the kernel, which in effect starts the realtime system.
[18:25:56] <zultron> If that's not desirable (I don't know if it is or not), why is the realtime script in /etc/init.d, which implies to me that the realtime system *should* be started at system boot time?
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[18:34:16] <jepler> zultron: no idea
[18:34:46] <jepler> it sure could be moved to /usr/share/linuxcnc on first glance
[18:37:52] <zultron> Alright. Or ${prefix}/bin?
[18:38:17] <jepler> my first impulse is to say that it's not for running directly
[18:38:25] <jepler> halrun and linuxcnc scripts run it for you
[18:38:33] <jepler> but I'm open to the alternate viewpoint too
[18:38:57] <zultron> Ah hah, then ${libexec}, maybe?
[18:39:13] <jepler> ok
[18:39:24] <zultron> I think you're right, no need to put it in everyone's $PATH.
[18:39:30] <jepler> it's a shell script but its contents might be arch dependent so libexec sounds good
[18:41:43] <zultron> http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/Directory-Variables.html
[18:42:05] <zultron> Look for 'libexecdir' on that link. Seems to match your description.
[18:44:12] <jepler> the folks who originally did the NURBS implementation have contacted me with an updated version including smarter subdivision to arc primitives and compatibility with fanuc nurbs codes. Unfortunately, they supplied whole files rather than patches and didn't specify what their starting version was
[18:44:29] <jepler> I would be happy to give a copy of their file to anyone with the interest in looking at it with the view to getting it in master branch
[18:44:44] <zultron> Hmm, lots of stuff could go in there, if that's what we decided. rtapi_app, linuxcnc_module_helper, flavor....
[18:45:23] <jepler> yes there's a lot of stuff that should be moved to more appropriate locations
[18:45:38] <jepler> I welcome any effort you make to approach that goal
[18:45:54] <jepler> .. in fact I tossed the file I was mailed online:
http://emergent.unpythonic.net/files/sandbox/Nurbs_G6_2.rar
[18:45:54] <zultron> I'm not qualified to decide for many of those things, but I'll be happy to work on it.
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[19:25:30] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: you should point them to that wiki page you wrote saying how to contribute to linuxcnc ;-)
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[19:36:46] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: you mean the thing you wrote for the manual about how to contribute to linuxcnc?
[19:38:57] <seb_kuzminsky> which i shamelessly copied from you,
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Git
[19:39:10] <seb_kuzminsky> and i haven't actually pushed my asciidocified one yet :-/
[19:39:16] <jepler> oh no
[19:39:20] <jepler> need more round tuits?
[19:39:29] <seb_kuzminsky> all i have is the square ones
[19:40:08] <seb_kuzminsky> i've got at least 3 or 4 half-baked branches that i started at the hackfest that i still need to finish up...
[19:43:47] <andypugh> Does anyone understand .po files? A new bug report on Sourceforge appears to be down to a simple typo in zh_CN.po
[19:44:06] <andypugh> (see discussion on the user list)
[19:44:45] <seb_kuzminsky> occasionally i have to resolve merge conflicts in .po files and it terrifies me every time because i dont know what i'm doing in there :-(
[19:44:49] <andypugh> Basically in Chinese yo0u only get to choose "inch/metric" not "inch _or_ metric"
[19:45:39] <jepler> easiest fix is to find the unusably wrong string by its msgid and change its msgstr to empty
[19:49:55] <andypugh> The issue is here, a two-line option in englishahas been concatentated into 1 line in chinese" #: src/emc/usr_intf/stepconf/stepconf.glade:785
[19:49:56] <andypugh> #: src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/pncconf.glade:326
[19:49:57] <andypugh> msgid ""
[19:49:58] <andypugh> "Inch\n"
[19:50:00] <andypugh> "Millimeter"
[19:50:00] <andypugh> msgstr "英制/公制"
[19:50:11] <jepler> maybe / needs to be \n ?
[19:50:26] <jepler> but if you don't see chinese characters then probably you shouldn't edit that file
[19:50:29] <andypugh> Indeed, or possibly on a separate line
[19:50:30] <jepler> (those didn't paste as chinese characters)
[19:51:01] <andypugh> No, and they are not chinese in Eclipse. They are chinese in the deault Mac text editor.
[19:51:23] <andypugh> This may come down to options in, of all things, my fstab!
[19:55:27] <jepler> OK, I made my best stab at fixing it..
[19:55:30] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03jepler 05v2.5_branch 8c87823 06linuxcnc 10src/po/zh_CN.po * l10n: fix translation of combobox contents
[19:58:36] <andypugh> The chap did describe how to test, by changing locale. I would guess that you don't need to be able to read options to know that now there are options :-)
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[20:01:35] <andypugh> I would guess that it isn't trivial to create a branch on the main rep that only contains relevant sample configs without creating a real merge headache?
[20:02:17] <andypugh> (rep = repository)
[20:04:26] <andypugh> (putting on my evil hat, I sort-of sent the guy off to the .po files in a hope he might finish the translation off)
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[20:36:27] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1138 of lucid-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-amd64-sim/builds/1138 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[20:37:45] <jepler> sigh
[20:38:30] <andypugh> That's not the .po change, surely?
[20:38:35] <cradek_> wow, all 8 of the fragile ones failed
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[20:41:35] <linuxcnc-build_> build #338 of precise-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed compile get-dmesg] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-realtime-rip/builds/338 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
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[20:48:44] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1135 of checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/1135 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
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[20:59:18] <seb_kuzminsky> and the precise one with the rtai memory management bug :-/
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[21:07:35] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=v2.5_branch checkin
[21:07:36] <linuxcnc-build> build #1136 forced
[21:07:36] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[21:08:09] <seb_kuzminsky> i rebooted the precise-rtai-x86 buildslave VM, and removed the stale lockfile on the lucid-amd64 buildslave
[21:08:13] <seb_kuzminsky> :-(
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[22:26:15] <linuxcnc-build> Hey! build checkin #1136 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[22:26:15] <linuxcnc-build> Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/1136
[22:29:15] <seb_kuzminsky> more like it
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