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[21:09:13] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05manpage-src 28988d8 06linuxcnc 10src/configure.in * dont build linuxcnc.1 from configure, it gets built by make
[21:09:14] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05manpage-src 48de436 06linuxcnc 04docs/man/man1/linuxcnc.1.in 03docs/src/man/man1/linuxcnc.1.in 10src/Makefile * docs: move linuxcnc.1.in out of the manpage tree
[21:13:37] <seb_kuzminsky> any objections to merging this new branch ^^^^ manpage-src into master? it cleans up the last build-time warning on precise sim
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[21:17:36] <seb_kuzminsky> hi PCW
[21:26:05] <PCW> Hi Sebastian
[21:26:44] <PCW> Thats weird WD problem, dont think Ive seen one before
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[21:45:58] <seb_kuzminsky> i've not seen it either
[21:46:06] <seb_kuzminsky> it's got to be something with his pc
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[21:48:15] <seb_kuzminsky> or noise maybe, but it's a strange way for noise to manifest
[21:49:12] <PCW> Yeah you would expect random errors in encoder data etc
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[21:52:55] <seb_kuzminsky> and maybe that's happening but he hasn't noticed it - i dont know how carefully he's been watching
[21:53:26] <seb_kuzminsky> maybe asking him to watch one of the encoders with halmeter for a while would be informative
[21:53:45] <seb_kuzminsky> and easier for him to do than halscope, though he seems pretty capable
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[21:53:58] <PCW> encoder count errors would likely cause a following error
[21:54:21] <seb_kuzminsky> right
[21:55:09] <seb_kuzminsky> but the watchdog problem would have to be between the fpga and the pc, so on the EPP link, encoder errors are usually between the encoders and the fpga
[21:56:18] <PCW> I wonder is there's a alternate way to verify if the watchdog actually bit (and set the I/O into input mode)
[21:57:05] <seb_kuzminsky> if he had the led debug board between the 7i43 and the 7i33 he could see that way
[21:59:11] <PCW> the WD has bit indication is only one bit (bit 0) so noise might trigger it
[21:59:38] <seb_kuzminsky> he might be able to re-read the watchdog register with the raw interface after the bite, i'm not sure
[22:01:26] <PCW> Does the driver do anything other than report that the WD has bit?
[22:01:28] <PCW> If it didnt really bite, some outputs might still be on
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[22:04:08] <seb_kuzminsky> no, the driver just reports that it has bit, it still keeps reading and writing to the fpga
[22:04:15] <seb_kuzminsky> so the raw interface should still work
[22:04:58] <seb_kuzminsky> and if it was EPP noise instead of an actual watchdog bite, then outputs should still be updated
[22:05:16] <PCW> yeah so maybe thats a way to see if this is a legitimate PC stall or a noise in the EPP link issue
[22:05:51] <seb_kuzminsky> hm, if it's noise on the EPP line, then encoder errors will only appear for one cycle (the next read cycle is unlikely to have the same error)
[22:06:15] <seb_kuzminsky> but the error will be in a random bit of the encoder register, leading to a potentially huge jump in encoder position
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[22:06:34] <seb_kuzminsky> unless it's only the LSB line that's flakythe (watchdog bite bit is on the lsb)
[22:07:07] <PCW> lsb could case a 256 count step
[22:07:29] <seb_kuzminsky> right, 1 or 256 edges
[22:07:37] <PCW> (sine the count is i6 bits and the bus is just 8)
[22:07:43] <PCW> since
[22:08:01] <seb_kuzminsky> i wonder what his ferror & "distance per encoder edge" are
[22:08:45] <PCW> I would expect flaykyness all over though if there were random read erroes
[22:10:09] <seb_kuzminsky> if writes work but reads don't it might be ok
[22:10:17] <seb_kuzminsky> he's only using X and Y and some gpios
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[22:24:57] <seb_kuzminsky> it's all green!!
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-amd64-sim/builds/1015
[22:25:07] <seb_kuzminsky> for the first time in ever
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[22:50:59] <PCW> Wow, that's nice
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[23:04:43] <andypugh> Any suggestions on which event triggers when a Glade Notebook tab is selected?
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