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[00:00:58] <mhaberler> posting now repeatedly fails on the forum
[00:03:04] <andypugh> It actually only claims to have failed.
[00:03:32] <andypugh> Shall I delete the duplicate?
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[00:04:32] <andypugh> (deleted)
[00:04:55] <andypugh> Though, I just noticed, you can do that yourself can't you?
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[00:11:51] <mhaberler> uh oh
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[00:17:23] <cradek> mhaberler: thanks for asking that
[00:18:29] <mhaberler> unfortunately that applies to many questions
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[00:35:25] <andypugh> There is a hint to his intentions here: "In my application I use a set of G code subroutines and programs that use only Numbered Parameters to contain
[00:35:26] <andypugh> the values of the axis positions and whatever data is needed to perform the machine cycles.
[00:35:27] <andypugh> So the operator can change these values without edit any kind of G code program .
[00:35:29] <andypugh> I usually have an HMI / Display with a programmable user interface with the Numebered Parameter on it .
[00:35:29] <andypugh> Initially I was hoping to use PyVCP to solve this task but I think it is not possible.
[00:35:30] <andypugh> The LCNC Python module do not have any access to the Numbered Parameter as per Integrator Manual ."
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[01:16:55] <cradek> sounds like he's reinventing something like ngcgui with the preconceived notion that numbered variables are the only hammer he has
[01:17:57] <cradek> or something like holecircle.py might be an awesome solution if I've guessed the problem correctly
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[20:11:22] <cradek> 4 years since the switch to git. in retrospect, we chose right. it's nice when that happens.
[20:11:41] <mhaberler> very right, good choice
[20:12:24] <cradek> today it'd be obvious (not to choose bzr)
[20:12:55] <cradek> ... but even then it was obvious not to choose svn
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[20:13:25] <mhaberler> if I may tack on a suggestion: I would think there is room for improvement on enticing newcomers to commit - new talent never hurts; I think the perceived fears of damage could be curbed by using gitolite (fast forward commits only for the masses)
[20:13:51] <mhaberler> I play that role with my repo, but not because it's fun for me - I'd rather have it in one
[20:15:40] <cradek> I don't really fear the damage of non-ff access. I have never yet seen someone mess up a force push (we've force pushed a handful of times to undo mistakes)
[20:15:55] <mhaberler> (me too.)
[20:16:29] <cradek> but I agree with the basis of your comment - I bet there are a few new people we need to add.
[20:17:02] <mhaberler> just have a look at gitolite (it's good enough for kernel.org), sleep it over, lets reconvene on it
[20:17:59] <cradek> well I've read about it - don't care to redo my infrastructure unless it solves a problem we're wanting to solve
[20:18:16] * cradek shrugs
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[20:19:07] <cradek> I like that we don't have (read: worry and argue about) fine-grained access control
[20:19:34] <mhaberler> it solves a few for me: no accounts for pushers - all based on pubkeys and ids; fine grained control on permissions - it might become a problem if you take in more folks
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[20:20:32] <cradek> yep, unlike politicians, I reserve the right to adjust my opinion based on new future facts :-)
[20:20:37] <mhaberler> I manage all this through a repo on my mac; add key and id, plus applicable attributes there, commit, push, done
[20:20:39] <mhaberler> way simpler than fiddling accounts
[20:20:47] <mhaberler> ah, those 'findings'
[20:21:23] <mhaberler> Wichita will have quite some attendence it seems
[20:21:41] <cradek> yes seems like it will be quite a thing
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[20:22:11] <mhaberler> well it's good to add faces and contacts to account names and nicks eventually
[20:22:35] <andypugh> Politicians get some things right, I just got invited to a party to celebrate the new Defamation Act, which came about as a result of the College of Chiropracters suing a journalist acquaintance for libel.
[20:23:10] <mhaberler> you mean the UKIP?
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[20:23:47] <andypugh> It should also stop an ongoing case where a US drug company is suing a US doctor for libel in the UK. Because our libel laws allowed that, and the journal was available in the UK...
[20:24:04] <mhaberler> duh
[20:24:17] <mhaberler> lawyer feeding frenzy
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[20:25:32] <andypugh> Yeah, there are now several new defences including "It was true", "It was my honest opinion" and "It was the result of a scientific investigation in a peer-reviewed journal". Until last month _none_ of those was a defence.
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[20:26:39] <mhaberler> it's a bit like throwing half a pig into the Amazonas
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[21:54:21] <KimK> cradek: Speaking of git, if I wanted to add a second PC to push from (different PC name, different location), should I plan on doing the key thing a second time, or would that be unusual?
[21:55:54] <cradek> you could send me another pubkey, or you could just copy your .ssh directory to the new machine, doesn't matter which you choose
[21:57:51] <cradek> I like my laptops to be separate keys so I can revoke only that key if (when) I lose it or it gets stolen
[21:58:25] <cradek> but otherwise, for relatively secure machines at home, I just copy a key around
[21:59:53] <skunkworks> if (when) !! have you lost a lot of laptops?
[22:00:04] <cradek> nope, never
[22:00:51] <cradek> but it'd be very foolish to expect never to lose one, or to have anything on it that it'd hurt to lose
[22:01:03] <skunkworks> right
[22:05:01] <KimK> That's what I was thinking, it might be better to have two separate in case of a break-in, or some such.
[22:05:40] <KimK> OK, I'll eventually send something along, thanks very much.
[22:05:58] <cradek> for our git, we'd just revoke 'em all and you could make a new one. it's a fairly small deal.
[22:06:02] <cradek> welcome
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