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[00:16:25] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=rtos-integration-preview3 checkin
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[00:16:26] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[01:18:18] <linuxcnc-build> build #3 of deb-precise-xenomai-binary-x86 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_2] Build details are at
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[01:18:33] <linuxcnc-build> build #3 of deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-x86 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_2] Build details are at
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[01:41:46] <linuxcnc-build> Hey! build checkin #940 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[01:41:47] <linuxcnc-build> Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/940
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[02:19:47] <seb_kuzminsky> well this is disappointing
[02:20:05] <seb_kuzminsky> paolo release rtai 3.9.1, but it doesn't include most of the fixes shabby and i sent him :-/
[02:21:43] <seb_kuzminsky> well this is embarrassing, i've been running the deb-builders for xenomai-amd64 and rtpreempt-amd64 on the vanilla amd64 buildslave, no wonder it's not doing what it should
[02:21:49] <seb_kuzminsky> i hope no one notices...
[02:22:04] <andypugh> Ooh look! A tree!
[02:25:08] <seb_kuzminsky> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nscm9f7Qf_g#t=134s
[02:25:31] <andypugh> By the way, did I miss something, or was someone over there on the other channel making unwarranted assumptions. Grandiximmo noticed that if you run-from-line a toolchange, the toolchange doesn't happen. Then somone else told him that the devs were on to it, and it would be fixed in a week or so. I can't see where he got that info from. It might just have been me saying "Oh, yes, that's a bit unexpected"
[02:26:11] <seb_kuzminsky> haha
[02:26:18] <seb_kuzminsky> must be some new dev we haven't met yet
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[02:33:53] <seb_kuzminsky> is there even a way to test for that? is run-from-line some crazy feature of axis, or is it in task or interp or something?
[02:35:21] <andypugh> I am not sure.
[02:37:52] <andypugh> I have been half-heartedly trying to track it down, but that became an excercise in giving up on Xcode (the current version really does assume a local Mac / iOS build) then installing the wrong Eclipse (ah, no, actually I want languages other than Java) and then trying to get to grips with a new IDE>
[02:39:20] <andypugh> However, if we give folk an interface that says "run from here" and "here" is a T2M6 line, it seems not unreasonable to expect to be asked to load a tool....
[02:39:54] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, that's what i'd expect...
[02:44:54] <andypugh> That isn't what you get. There is some mention somewhere that run-from-line is only meant to work on a linear move, but as the gui does not enforce that, and I can't immediatly find that statment in the docs (I did find a "Don't even try this if you have subroutines)
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[03:17:28] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=rtos-integration-preview3 checkin
[03:17:29] <linuxcnc-build> build forced [ETA 1h31m57s]
[03:17:29] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[04:19:39] <linuxcnc-build> build #4 of deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-x86 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_2] Build details are at
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[04:19:43] <linuxcnc-build> build #4 of deb-precise-xenomai-binary-x86 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_2] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-precise-xenomai-binary-x86/builds/4
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[04:29:27] <mhaberler> Seb: looks much better now!
[04:30:32] <mhaberler> hm, some signature issue with the machinekit repo
[04:33:06] <zultron> Those're signed with my gpg keys. Looks like the buildbot needs those installed.
[04:35:08] <zultron> Info here:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?XenomaiKernelPackages#Installing
[04:43:28] <linuxcnc-build> Hey! build checkin #941 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[04:43:28] <linuxcnc-build> Build details are at
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[05:55:23] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=rtos-integration-preview3 checkin
[05:55:23] <linuxcnc-build> build #942 forced
[05:55:24] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[06:57:34] <linuxcnc-build> build #5 of deb-precise-xenomai-binary-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_2] Build details are at
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[06:57:45] <linuxcnc-build> build #5 of deb-precise-xenomai-binary-x86 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_2] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-precise-xenomai-binary-x86/builds/5
[06:57:55] <linuxcnc-build> build #5 of deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-x86 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_2] Build details are at
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[06:58:06] <linuxcnc-build> build #5 of deb-precise-rtpreempt-binary-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_2] Build details are at
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[07:21:22] <linuxcnc-build> Hey! build checkin #942 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[07:21:22] <linuxcnc-build> Build details are at
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[07:22:46] <zultron> seb_kuzminsky, here's my lame attempt at a makefile that uses pbuilder to build all kernel packages.
[07:22:56] <zultron> https://github.com/zultron/debian-linuxcnc-autobuild
[07:23:50] <zultron> You should be able to add the Zultron signing keys to the pbuilder keyring. Check the gpg command on line 75:
[07:23:55] <zultron> https://github.com/zultron/debian-linuxcnc-autobuild/blob/master/Makefile#L74
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[07:26:08] <zultron> That stuff isn't finished. It builds all the kernel pkgs & utilities for two Ubuntu and one Debian distro. The r8168 driver build isn't there yet. And this was put aside so long ago that we didn't even have linuxcnc packages back then. :)
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[07:33:51] <zultron> Dang I'm supposed to be sleeping
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[14:51:22] <seb_kuzminsky> zultron: cool!
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[14:52:09] <seb_kuzminsky> hey speaking of kernels, i've been running our latency-test on xenomai on a physical machine, and it gets latency approximately as good as rtai
[14:52:33] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm very happy about this and feel encouraged to finish up the rtos integration
[14:52:46] <seb_kuzminsky> gonna do the same test with rtpreempt and rtai 3.9
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[17:12:08] <zultron> seb_kuzminsky, you've been testing xenomai-user threads, not -kernel, right? Very encouraging if it can rival rtai.
[17:12:38] <zultron> Someone ought to write a new 'rtai-user' thread style. Not me! :)
[17:12:59] <zultron> Then we could call it the 'GRAND unified binary'
[17:13:13] <mhaberler> rtai dont have that :-/
[17:13:28] <zultron> Oh, what's lxrt?
[17:13:50] <mhaberler> kinda like ULAPI I understand; not hardRT
[17:14:05] <zultron> Ah, too bad.
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[18:08:08] <norbert> Halo, as I am programing gmoccapy, a gui based on gscreen, I am searching for a solution to reload the tool in spindle after restarting the machine. As the machine may still be in estop state, I can not use an MDI command. The reason I am trying to do this, is because many times the tool stays in the spindle when shutting down the machine. If you don't care after turning on the machine again a tool change may result in a crash, becaus
[18:08:08] <norbert> e linuxcnc thinks it has tool no. 0 in spindle. Hope to find a solution.
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[19:16:32] <mhaberler> see section 9.3: interpreter __init__ method - this is a hook where you could tie user-specific startup into
[19:16:41] <mhaberler> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/remap/structure.html
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[20:17:37] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05master 1380916 06linuxcnc 10lib/python/hal_glib.py * hal_glib - add a tool-changed gobject signal
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[20:28:37] <cmorley> Norbert: I don't think having your screen require a remap is an acceptable idea for the general public.
[20:29:56] <cmorley> I mean it's a great idea for your personal machine but can create trouble as a released version.
[20:30:14] <cmorley> IMHO
[20:36:31] <mhaberler> why?
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[22:55:17] <cradek> this is not a gui issue and you'll have to implement that in task/motion guts
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[22:55:38] <cradek> also be aware that for RANDOM tool change machines, this already works
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[23:24:07] <skunkworks> really? hmm - I should try that...
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[23:30:41] <cradek> I've sure been there - it's easy to forget when you're making a gui that most things are really NOT gui issues
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[23:37:32] <skunkworks> I don't have 'random' per say... but I think it should work. but I feel we have had this conversation before..
[23:43:53] <seb_kuzminsky> zultron: yes, the buildbot (and i) build the default thing that configure gives you when you say "--disable-simulator", which is xenomai-user and rtpreempt-user
[23:44:40] <seb_kuzminsky> what's the deal with RTL 8168 on xenomai? because i'm seeing a similar issue on wheezy's rtpreempt kernel
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