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[00:34:39] <PCW> Thats certainly simpler than a possibly costly re-planning
[00:49:45] <mozmck> :) I don't know where max-FO is normally
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[01:29:26] <skunkworks> Don't you know max FO... :)
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[02:17:35] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: that dog comic really hit home
[02:18:12] <seb_kuzminsky> http://writequotes.com/daniel-j-bernstein/12351/
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[02:19:47] <seb_kuzminsky> so the next obstacle on the road to xenomai & rtpreempt debs is apt access to the kernels (for installation into pbuilder primarily, and oh fine, for users too)
[02:20:33] <seb_kuzminsky> we host rtai kernels for hardy & lucid on linuxcnc.org, i think we should do the same for xenomai & rtpreempt on precise
[02:21:10] <seb_kuzminsky> the xenomai kernel comes from zultron (i think), the rtpreempt kernel comes from debian wheezy
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[03:50:47] <zultron> Hi seb_kuzminsky, yep, I can help there.
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[03:53:36] <zultron> You can add the existing repo to your config; details at
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?XenomaiKernelPackages
[03:54:41] <zultron> Or if you'd like to add them to the buildbot, or add the packages to an existing repo, I can help with that too.
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[03:56:24] <zultron> There's the matter of package signing keys no matter which way we go.
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[14:31:20] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=v2.5_branch checkin
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[14:31:21] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[16:08:57] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm, i expected the package-{xenomai,rtpreempt}-precise-source builders to fail, but that should not have made the checkin builder fail
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[16:36:11] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[18:31:00] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[19:12:19] <zultron> Hey seb_kuzminsky, check the backlog re: xenomai & rtpreempt kernels. When you have time let's discuss what needs doing.
[19:14:22] <zultron> http://linuxcnc.mah.priv.at/irc/%23linuxcnc-devel/2013-04-12.html#02:19:47
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[19:14:48] <seb_kuzminsky> hey zultron
[19:14:54] <zultron> Howdy!
[19:15:34] <seb_kuzminsky> i think we're getting close to the milestone where we want it all hosted on linuxcnc.org, instead of scattered around developers' machines out on the net
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[19:16:01] <seb_kuzminsky> and i still have some bbot bugs to work out, it seems...
[19:16:02] <zultron> Sure.
[19:16:24] <zultron> Do you want to actually build kernels on the buildbot, or just stick binary pkgs into a repo?
[19:16:58] <seb_kuzminsky> i don't want to build kernels on the buildbot
[19:17:00] <zultron> If the former, I can help set up pbuilder for the xenomai kernels.
[19:17:07] <zultron> Sure.
[19:17:18] <seb_kuzminsky> i do want the binary packages hosted in the linuxcnc.org debian archive
[19:17:36] <seb_kuzminsky> i think it's not worth it to set up a kernel buildbot, since it gets built so rarely
[19:17:38] <zultron> Does archive == repo?
[19:17:58] <zultron> Right, there may be a new Xenomai release every 6 months.
[19:17:59] <seb_kuzminsky> a deb archive is the thing that stores all the debs and lets people find them and download them
[19:18:20] <seb_kuzminsky> if someone *else* wanted to set up a kernel buildbot, i'd be for it and would help out
[19:18:28] <seb_kuzminsky> i just dont want to do it myself ;-)
[19:18:39] <seb_kuzminsky> if/when i make another buildbot, it'll be for the hostmot2 firmware
[19:19:00] <zultron> The thing you configure in /etc/apt/sources.list, right? Sorry, RPM uses 'repo' for terminology.
[19:19:07] <seb_kuzminsky> exactly
[19:19:25] <seb_kuzminsky> each line in sources.list (and sources.list.d/*.list) points to one deb archive
[19:19:32] <seb_kuzminsky> sounds like it's the same thing as an rpm repo
[19:19:34] <zultron> Well, I have a pbuilder config to build those, but frankly I don't want to either.
[19:19:39] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
[19:20:27] <seb_kuzminsky> it would probably be good to put all your scripts and instructions and config files and things in a git repo on linuxcnc.org
[19:20:45] <zultron> Are there debian archives on linuxcnc.org for all the distros + distro versions your buildbot builds for?
[19:21:01] <zultron> Hardy, Lucid, Precise? How about Squeeze?
[19:21:13] <seb_kuzminsky> no, only for official releases
[19:21:20] <seb_kuzminsky> err, i think yes, now
[19:21:36] <seb_kuzminsky> i think everything the buildbot builds & tests & packages gets put on linuxcnc.org when we make an official release, so yes
[19:22:01] <zultron> Does your buildbot build for Squeeze, too?
[19:22:04] <seb_kuzminsky> nope
[19:22:36] <seb_kuzminsky> i would welcome a squeeze and/or wheezy buildslave, if someone wanted to run one
[19:22:46] <seb_kuzminsky> or if there's user demand, i could stand one up
[19:23:05] <linuxcnc-build> build #4 of package-xenomai-precise-source is complete: Failure [4failed configuring debian] Build details are at
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[19:23:20] <seb_kuzminsky> dammit those are not supposed to fail!
[19:23:27] * seb_kuzminsky has a sad
[19:23:52] <zultron> Ok, so just Ubuntu. Anyway, all those kernel pkgs are at deb.machinekit.net. Whenever you're ready, I can help.
[19:24:17] <seb_kuzminsky> awesome, thanks!
[19:24:40] <zultron> I can't say about demand for Squeeze and Wheezy, but there's a Squeeze kernel there too.
[19:24:44] <seb_kuzminsky> the rtpreempt kernels too? i thought those came from debian.org, do you (mhaberler?) host a copy?
[19:25:02] <zultron> Sorry, not rt-preempt, just xenomai
[19:25:17] <zultron> But I can help with those too. Let me know.
[19:25:25] <seb_kuzminsky> great
[19:25:34] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks for all your work on those kernels, it rocks
[19:25:56] <zultron> Well, if folks find them useful, I'm happy. :)
[19:26:27] <zultron> Thanks for your help getting the new RTOS stuff into the buildbots.
[19:26:29] <seb_kuzminsky> almost no one will use them until the rtos branch gets merged, then our early-adopter users might start testing them
[19:26:41] <seb_kuzminsky> no one except skunkworks, that is ;-)
[19:27:44] <skunkworks> well - I have been a bit busy recently... but sure! ;)
[19:27:48] <zultron> :) I've seen just a few people playing with it so far. Having packages available will make it a lot easier for folks to give it a whirl.
[19:27:52] <seb_kuzminsky> ohai!
[19:28:49] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl, work...
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[20:19:52] <PCW> zultron: do you know anything about the xenomai --- RTL8168 bug? its rather a pain since that's
[20:19:53] <PCW> the Ethernet chip on many LinuxCNC friendly motherboards (including my D525)
[20:21:44] <zultron> PCW, I built a separate .deb package with the r8168 driver. The r8169 driver is shipped with vanilla and is delicate when driving the r8168, can only drive it at 100Mb, and breaks with Xenomai, Xen, and probably other kernels.
[20:22:04] <zultron> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?XenomaiKernelPackages
[20:22:27] <zultron> There's a section in there about this problem.
[20:23:05] <zultron> If you're already using the deb.machinekit.net debian archive, you should be able to simply:
[20:23:13] <zultron> sudo apt-get install kmod-r8168-modules-3.5.7-xenomai-2.6.2.1
[20:23:13] <zultron> sudo update-initramfs -u -k 3.5.7-xenomai-2.6.2.1
[20:23:34] <PCW> I'll give that a try
[20:23:43] <zultron> Let me know if you have trouble.
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[20:25:01] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=v2.5_branch checkin
[20:25:02] <linuxcnc-build> build #933 forced
[20:25:02] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[20:25:30] <seb_kuzminsky> the nice folks on #buildbot said it's a bug (of sorts) and gave me a workaround to try
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[20:31:28] <cradek> nice folks on irc rock
[20:35:10] <seb_kuzminsky> nice folks rock, fify
[20:35:20] <seb_kuzminsky> 0 to proposed workaround in 5 minutes
[20:38:14] <seb_kuzminsky> if that workaround works, then the bbot situation should be this:
[20:38:28] <seb_kuzminsky> there's a builder called "checkin", that runs whenever anyone pushes anything
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[20:38:48] <seb_kuzminsky> 'checkin' triggers all the 'rip build & test' builders
[20:39:10] <seb_kuzminsky> the sim (aka vanilla) and rtai (aka rt) builds must work, or the push is a failure
[20:39:41] <seb_kuzminsky> the xenomai and rtpreempt builds can work or fail, and failure won't mark the push as a fail
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[20:40:06] <seb_kuzminsky> if the 'rip build & test' doesn't fail, checkin proceeds to trigger all the 'packaging' builders
[20:40:29] <seb_kuzminsky> again, sim/vanilla and rt/rtai must pass, the xenomai & rtpreempt ones are allowed to fail
[20:41:18] <seb_kuzminsky> so any branches that support xenomai & rtpreempt (currently that's the rtos-integration-preview3{,-merged-into-master} branches) will build & test & package on all platforms
[20:41:42] <seb_kuzminsky> and branches that dont support the new rtos platforms will still build & test & package on their supported platforms
[20:41:54] <seb_kuzminsky> any failures on vanilla or rtai on any branches cause a build failure
[20:42:24] <seb_kuzminsky> but failures on xenomai or rtpreempt are allowed on any branch (which is not ideal, but it's what's easy to implement)
[20:43:25] <seb_kuzminsky> the new rtos platforms currently build & pass tests, but fail to package, because the new rtos kernels are not in the linuxcnc.org deb archive yet
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[21:19:54] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, the bbot workaround seems to be working :-)
[21:33:14] <PCW> thanks zultron, that fixed the 8168 issue
[21:34:02] <zultron> Woo hoo!
[21:34:12] <zultron> Thanks for reporting back.
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[21:40:55] <linuxcnc-build> Hey! build checkin #933 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[21:40:55] <linuxcnc-build> Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/933
[21:44:58] <seb_kuzminsky> aww yiss
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[21:45:48] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=rtos-integration-preview3-merged-into-master checkin
[21:45:50] <linuxcnc-build> build forced [ETA 1h15m51s]
[21:45:50] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[21:46:16] <seb_kuzminsky> this rtos build should fail to build debs, because the pbuilder environments for xenomai & rtpreempt are not set up
[21:46:32] <seb_kuzminsky> but the source package (dsc) builds should work for both, and it should trigger the deb builders
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[22:12:02] <seb_kuzminsky> if we get bored at the hackfest, we should use one of stuart's high-axis-count machines to make cool thank-you objects for the buildbot folks & the rtai folks
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[23:19:29] <linuxcnc-build> build #0 of deb-precise-xenomai-binary-x86 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_1] Build details are at
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[23:42:42] <linuxcnc-build> Hey! build checkin #934 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[23:42:42] <linuxcnc-build> Build details are at
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