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[00:43:59] <alex_joni> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/user-map
[00:47:17] <andypugh> woot! thanks Alex
[00:47:25] <alex_joni> don't thank me yet
[00:47:32] <alex_joni> only works for 100 users so far :)
[00:47:47] <andypugh> yes, we do seem a little sparse.
[00:48:29] <andypugh> Me and ArcEye are there though :-)
[00:49:54] <andypugh> I am quite liking the direct Streetview link. Not, in general, very industrial.
[00:50:34] <alex_joni> hmmm.. I just disabled that
[00:50:39] <alex_joni> should I keep that?
[00:50:55] <alex_joni> the direct streetview link I mean
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[00:51:33] <andypugh> No, I reckon people will get paranoid and hate it. But I think it's cool.
[00:51:54] <alex_joni> qr should suffice
[00:52:39] <andypugh> Streetview is vague enough to not be a genuine problem. But you know what people are like..
[00:53:04] <alex_joni> yup
[00:53:10] * alex_joni puts on a programmers hat
[00:53:18] <alex_joni> let's hack some php :D
[00:54:33] <andypugh> I visited PCW when I was in Oakland, I didn't realise that Dewey ws local too.
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[01:10:48] <alex_joni> hmm.. seems it works ok up to 320 users or so
[01:10:56] <alex_joni> above that it borks out, no idea why
[01:11:06] <alex_joni> it feels snappy with 320
[01:15:01] <skunkworks> hey - I am still on the map!
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[01:15:58] <skunkworks> how does it determine who to display?
[01:19:29] <andypugh> Which extension are you using?
[01:19:49] <alex_joni> andypugh: geomunity something
[01:22:26] <andypugh> Somewhere I found a whole page of them. No idea where...
[01:23:11] <andypugh> Ah, here we are:
http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/extension-specific/community-builder-extensions/community-builder-maps
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[01:23:28] <andypugh> And it seems, that is what you found too.
[01:25:31] <alex_joni> yeah, tried to hunt down a lot of them
[01:25:38] <alex_joni> but they either weren't for joomla 1.5
[01:25:46] <alex_joni> or they were only available for buying
[01:25:47] <alex_joni> etc
[01:32:40] <micges> cradek: andypugh: pcw_home: master merged into ja3
[01:33:15] <andypugh> Cool.
[01:33:46] <alex_joni> yay
[01:34:00] <alex_joni> micges: I see you're also burning the midnight oil
[01:34:17] <micges> yep
[01:34:26] <andypugh> Way past midnight in .pl and .ro?
[01:34:43] <micges> 2:30 here
[01:34:54] <skunkworks> wow
[01:34:55] <alex_joni> 3:34 here
[01:34:59] <skunkworks> nice job guys
[01:35:15] <alex_joni> seems the output from this module is bogus
[01:35:25] <skunkworks> 8:30 here and it feels like I need to go to bed...
[01:35:29] <alex_joni> for it to work with lots of datapoints I kinda need to reqrite it
[01:35:33] <alex_joni> rewrite it
[01:37:03] <andypugh> well, then the GPLv2 thing is absolutely and entirely valid
[01:38:07] <alex_joni> yup
[01:38:21] <alex_joni> anyone knows of a dos2unix alternative?
[01:39:10] <andypugh> Stabbing yourself with a fork sounds like a good alternative?
[01:41:34] <andypugh> Ah, sorry, not what I thought it was,
[01:43:30] <andypugh> If you are tidying up line-endings there are text editors that can do it, but I suspect you are wanting to batch-convert?
[01:44:37] <alex_joni> used vim to remove them
[01:44:50] <alex_joni> :%s/^M//g
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[02:17:43] <linuxcnc-build_> build #69 of precise-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-realtime-rip/builds/69 blamelist: cmorley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, k.t. chan <eddie692962@netvigator.com>, Daniel Rogge <drogge@tormach.com>, Andy <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Les Newell
[02:17:43] <linuxcnc-build_> <les.newell@fastmail.co.uk>, Pavel Shramov <psha@lebu.psha.org.ru>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Anders Wallin <anders.e.e.wallin@gmail.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Bence Kovacs <bence.kovacs@generalmechatronics.com>, Sascha Ittner <sascha.ittner@modusoft.de>, Matt Shaver <matt@mattshaver.com>, Andy Pugh <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Chris
[02:17:43] <linuxcnc-build_> Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>, elson <elson@pico-systems.com>, Erkka Koski <erkkak@mbnet.fi>, Victor Rocco <victor_rocco@hotmail.com>, Lisandro Massera <lisandromassera@hotmail.com>, Peter Blodow <p.blodow@dreki.de>, Michael Haberler <git@mah.priv.at>, John Thornton <jthornton@gnipsel.com>, Chris Radek
[02:17:43] <linuxcnc-build_> <chris@timeguy.com>, Kim Kirwan <Kim@KimKirwan.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Oscar Chaides <xolotl44@gmail.com>, Francis Tisserant <tissf@free.fr>, Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Chris S Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, jepler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Janos Bujtar <janos.bujtar@gmail.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@dsndata.com>, aw@aw-
[02:17:43] <linuxcnc-build_> VirtualBox.(none) <aw@aw-VirtualBox.(none)>
[02:19:14] <linuxcnc-build_> build #867 of lucid-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-i386-sim/builds/867 blamelist: cmorley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, k.t. chan <eddie692962@netvigator.com>, Daniel Rogge <drogge@tormach.com>, Andy <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Les Newell <les.newell@fastmail.co.uk>,
[02:19:14] <linuxcnc-build_> Pavel Shramov <psha@lebu.psha.org.ru>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Anders Wallin <anders.e.e.wallin@gmail.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Bence Kovacs <bence.kovacs@generalmechatronics.com>, Sascha Ittner <sascha.ittner@modusoft.de>, Matt Shaver <matt@mattshaver.com>, Andy Pugh <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Chris Morley
[02:19:14] <linuxcnc-build_> <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>, elson <elson@pico-systems.com>, Erkka Koski <erkkak@mbnet.fi>, Victor Rocco <victor_rocco@hotmail.com>, Lisandro Massera <lisandromassera@hotmail.com>, Peter Blodow <p.blodow@dreki.de>, Michael Haberler <git@mah.priv.at>, John Thornton <jthornton@gnipsel.com>, Chris Radek
[02:19:14] <linuxcnc-build_> <chris@timeguy.com>, Kim Kirwan <Kim@KimKirwan.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Oscar Chaides <xolotl44@gmail.com>, Francis Tisserant <tissf@free.fr>, Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Chris S Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, jepler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Janos Bujtar <janos.bujtar@gmail.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@dsndata.com>, aw@aw-
[02:19:14] <linuxcnc-build_> VirtualBox.(none) <aw@aw-VirtualBox.(none)>
[02:20:33] <andypugh> I wonder what it is trying to tell us?
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[02:22:50] <linuxcnc-build_> build #871 of precise-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-amd64-sim/builds/871 blamelist: cmorley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, k.t. chan <eddie692962@netvigator.com>, Daniel Rogge <drogge@tormach.com>, Andy <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Les Newell
[02:22:50] <linuxcnc-build_> <les.newell@fastmail.co.uk>, Pavel Shramov <psha@lebu.psha.org.ru>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Anders Wallin <anders.e.e.wallin@gmail.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Bence Kovacs <bence.kovacs@generalmechatronics.com>, Sascha Ittner <sascha.ittner@modusoft.de>, Matt Shaver <matt@mattshaver.com>, Andy Pugh <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Chris
[02:22:50] <linuxcnc-build_> Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>, elson <elson@pico-systems.com>, Erkka Koski <erkkak@mbnet.fi>, Victor Rocco <victor_rocco@hotmail.com>, Lisandro Massera <lisandromassera@hotmail.com>, Peter Blodow <p.blodow@dreki.de>, Michael Haberler <git@mah.priv.at>, John Thornton <jthornton@gnipsel.com>, Chris Radek
[02:22:51] <linuxcnc-build_> <chris@timeguy.com>, Kim Kirwan <Kim@KimKirwan.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Oscar Chaides <xolotl44@gmail.com>, Francis Tisserant <tissf@free.fr>, Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Chris S Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, jepler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Janos Bujtar <janos.bujtar@gmail.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@dsndata.com>, aw@aw-
[02:22:51] <linuxcnc-build_> VirtualBox.(none) <aw@aw-VirtualBox.(none)>
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[02:23:34] <linuxcnc-build_> build #869 of precise-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-sim/builds/869 blamelist: cmorley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, k.t. chan <eddie692962@netvigator.com>, Daniel Rogge <drogge@tormach.com>, Andy <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Les Newell
[02:23:34] <linuxcnc-build_> <les.newell@fastmail.co.uk>, Pavel Shramov <psha@lebu.psha.org.ru>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Anders Wallin <anders.e.e.wallin@gmail.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Bence Kovacs <bence.kovacs@generalmechatronics.com>, Sascha Ittner <sascha.ittner@modusoft.de>, Matt Shaver <matt@mattshaver.com>, Andy Pugh <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Chris
[02:23:34] <linuxcnc-build_> Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>, elson <elson@pico-systems.com>, Erkka Koski <erkkak@mbnet.fi>, Victor Rocco <victor_rocco@hotmail.com>, Lisandro Massera <lisandromassera@hotmail.com>, Peter Blodow <p.blodow@dreki.de>, Michael Haberler <git@mah.priv.at>, John Thornton <jthornton@gnipsel.com>, Chris Radek
[02:23:34] <linuxcnc-build_> <chris@timeguy.com>, Kim Kirwan <Kim@KimKirwan.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Oscar Chaides <xolotl44@gmail.com>, Francis Tisserant <tissf@free.fr>, Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Chris S Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, jepler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Janos Bujtar <janos.bujtar@gmail.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@dsndata.com>, aw@aw-
[02:23:34] <linuxcnc-build_> VirtualBox.(none) <aw@aw-VirtualBox.(none)>
[02:25:43] <linuxcnc-build_> build #868 of lucid-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-i386-realtime-rip/builds/868 blamelist: cmorley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, k.t. chan <eddie692962@netvigator.com>, Daniel Rogge <drogge@tormach.com>, Andy <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Les Newell
[02:25:43] <linuxcnc-build_> <les.newell@fastmail.co.uk>, Pavel Shramov <psha@lebu.psha.org.ru>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Anders Wallin <anders.e.e.wallin@gmail.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Bence Kovacs <bence.kovacs@generalmechatronics.com>, Sascha Ittner <sascha.ittner@modusoft.de>, Matt Shaver <matt@mattshaver.com>, Andy Pugh <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Chris
[02:25:43] <linuxcnc-build_> Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>, elson <elson@pico-systems.com>, Erkka Koski <erkkak@mbnet.fi>, Victor Rocco <victor_rocco@hotmail.com>, Lisandro Massera <lisandromassera@hotmail.com>, Peter Blodow <p.blodow@dreki.de>, Michael Haberler <git@mah.priv.at>, John Thornton <jthornton@gnipsel.com>, Chris Radek
[02:25:43] <linuxcnc-build_> <chris@timeguy.com>, Kim Kirwan <Kim@KimKirwan.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Oscar Chaides <xolotl44@gmail.com>, Francis Tisserant <tissf@free.fr>, Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Chris S Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, jepler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Janos Bujtar <janos.bujtar@gmail.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@dsndata.com>, aw@aw-
[02:25:43] <linuxcnc-build_> VirtualBox.(none) <aw@aw-VirtualBox.(none)>
[02:29:02] <linuxcnc-build_> build #867 of lucid-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-amd64-sim/builds/867 blamelist: cmorley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, k.t. chan <eddie692962@netvigator.com>, Daniel Rogge <drogge@tormach.com>, Andy <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Les Newell
[02:29:02] <linuxcnc-build_> <les.newell@fastmail.co.uk>, Pavel Shramov <psha@lebu.psha.org.ru>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Anders Wallin <anders.e.e.wallin@gmail.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Bence Kovacs <bence.kovacs@generalmechatronics.com>, Sascha Ittner <sascha.ittner@modusoft.de>, Matt Shaver <matt@mattshaver.com>, Andy Pugh <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Chris
[02:29:02] <linuxcnc-build_> Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>, elson <elson@pico-systems.com>, Erkka Koski <erkkak@mbnet.fi>, Victor Rocco <victor_rocco@hotmail.com>, Lisandro Massera <lisandromassera@hotmail.com>, Peter Blodow <p.blodow@dreki.de>, Michael Haberler <git@mah.priv.at>, John Thornton <jthornton@gnipsel.com>, Chris Radek
[02:29:02] <linuxcnc-build_> <chris@timeguy.com>, Kim Kirwan <Kim@KimKirwan.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Oscar Chaides <xolotl44@gmail.com>, Francis Tisserant <tissf@free.fr>, Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Chris S Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, jepler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Janos Bujtar <janos.bujtar@gmail.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@dsndata.com>, aw@aw-
[02:29:02] <linuxcnc-build_> VirtualBox.(none) <aw@aw-VirtualBox.(none)>
[02:29:03] <alex_joni> yeah, yeah.. just blame everyone
[02:29:16] <linuxcnc-build_> build #870 of hardy-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-amd64-sim/builds/870 blamelist: cmorley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, k.t. chan <eddie692962@netvigator.com>, Daniel Rogge <drogge@tormach.com>, Andy <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Les Newell
[02:29:16] <linuxcnc-build_> <les.newell@fastmail.co.uk>, Pavel Shramov <psha@lebu.psha.org.ru>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Anders Wallin <anders.e.e.wallin@gmail.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Bence Kovacs <bence.kovacs@generalmechatronics.com>, Sascha Ittner <sascha.ittner@modusoft.de>, Matt Shaver <matt@mattshaver.com>, Andy Pugh <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Chris
[02:29:16] <linuxcnc-build_> Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>, elson <elson@pico-systems.com>, Erkka Koski <erkkak@mbnet.fi>, Victor Rocco <victor_rocco@hotmail.com>, Lisandro Massera <lisandromassera@hotmail.com>, Peter Blodow <p.blodow@dreki.de>, Michael Haberler <git@mah.priv.at>, John Thornton <jthornton@gnipsel.com>, Chris Radek
[02:29:16] <linuxcnc-build_> <chris@timeguy.com>, Kim Kirwan <Kim@KimKirwan.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Oscar Chaides <xolotl44@gmail.com>, Francis Tisserant <tissf@free.fr>, Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Chris S Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, jepler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Janos Bujtar <janos.bujtar@gmail.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@dsndata.com>, aw@aw-
[02:29:16] <linuxcnc-build_> VirtualBox.(none) <aw@aw-VirtualBox.(none)>
[02:33:09] <linuxcnc-build_> build #868 of hardy-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-realtime-rip/builds/868 blamelist: cmorley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, k.t. chan <eddie692962@netvigator.com>, Daniel Rogge <drogge@tormach.com>, Andy <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Les Newell
[02:33:09] <linuxcnc-build_> <les.newell@fastmail.co.uk>, Pavel Shramov <psha@lebu.psha.org.ru>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Anders Wallin <anders.e.e.wallin@gmail.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Bence Kovacs <bence.kovacs@generalmechatronics.com>, Sascha Ittner <sascha.ittner@modusoft.de>, Matt Shaver <matt@mattshaver.com>, Andy Pugh <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Chris
[02:33:09] <linuxcnc-build_> Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>, elson <elson@pico-systems.com>, Erkka Koski <erkkak@mbnet.fi>, Victor Rocco <victor_rocco@hotmail.com>, Lisandro Massera <lisandromassera@hotmail.com>, Peter Blodow <p.blodow@dreki.de>, Michael Haberler <git@mah.priv.at>, John Thornton <jthornton@gnipsel.com>, Chris Radek
[02:33:09] <linuxcnc-build_> <chris@timeguy.com>, Kim Kirwan <Kim@KimKirwan.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Oscar Chaides <xolotl44@gmail.com>, Francis Tisserant <tissf@free.fr>, Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Chris S Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, jepler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Janos Bujtar <janos.bujtar@gmail.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@dsndata.com>, aw@aw-
[02:33:09] <linuxcnc-build_> VirtualBox.(none) <aw@aw-VirtualBox.(none)>
[02:33:10] <linuxcnc-build_> build #868 of hardy-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-sim/builds/868 blamelist: cmorley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, k.t. chan <eddie692962@netvigator.com>, Daniel Rogge <drogge@tormach.com>, Andy <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Les Newell <les.newell@fastmail.co.uk>,
[02:33:10] <linuxcnc-build_> Pavel Shramov <psha@lebu.psha.org.ru>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Anders Wallin <anders.e.e.wallin@gmail.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Bence Kovacs <bence.kovacs@generalmechatronics.com>, Sascha Ittner <sascha.ittner@modusoft.de>, Matt Shaver <matt@mattshaver.com>, Andy Pugh <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Chris Morley
[02:33:11] <linuxcnc-build_> <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>, elson <elson@pico-systems.com>, Erkka Koski <erkkak@mbnet.fi>, Victor Rocco <victor_rocco@hotmail.com>, Lisandro Massera <lisandromassera@hotmail.com>, Peter Blodow <p.blodow@dreki.de>, Michael Haberler <git@mah.priv.at>, John Thornton <jthornton@gnipsel.com>, Chris Radek
[02:33:11] <linuxcnc-build_> <chris@timeguy.com>, Kim Kirwan <Kim@KimKirwan.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Oscar Chaides <xolotl44@gmail.com>, Francis Tisserant <tissf@free.fr>, Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Chris S Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, jepler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Janos Bujtar <janos.bujtar@gmail.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@dsndata.com>, aw@aw-
[02:33:12] <linuxcnc-build_> VirtualBox.(none) <aw@aw-VirtualBox.(none)>
[02:33:12] <linuxcnc-build_> build #867 of hardy-amd64-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-amd64-realtime-rip/builds/867 blamelist: cmorley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, k.t. chan <eddie692962@netvigator.com>, Daniel Rogge <drogge@tormach.com>, Andy <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Les Newell
[02:33:13] <linuxcnc-build_> <les.newell@fastmail.co.uk>, Pavel Shramov <psha@lebu.psha.org.ru>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Anders Wallin <anders.e.e.wallin@gmail.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, Bence Kovacs <bence.kovacs@generalmechatronics.com>, Sascha Ittner <sascha.ittner@modusoft.de>, Matt Shaver <matt@mattshaver.com>, Andy Pugh <andy@bodgesoc.org>, Chris
[02:33:13] <linuxcnc-build_> Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>, elson <elson@pico-systems.com>, Erkka Koski <erkkak@mbnet.fi>, Victor Rocco <victor_rocco@hotmail.com>, Lisandro Massera <lisandromassera@hotmail.com>, Peter Blodow <p.blodow@dreki.de>, Michael Haberler <git@mah.priv.at>, John Thornton <jthornton@gnipsel.com>, Chris Radek
[02:33:14] <linuxcnc-build_> <chris@timeguy.com>, Kim Kirwan <Kim@KimKirwan.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Oscar Chaides <xolotl44@gmail.com>, Francis Tisserant <tissf@free.fr>, Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, Chris S Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, jepler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, Janos Bujtar <janos.bujtar@gmail.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@dsndata.com>, aw@aw-
[02:46:06] <seb_kuzminsky> the buildbot is saying, in it confusing way, that ja3 failed runtests on every platform
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[02:46:48] <andypugh> it is doing _very_ well on the "confusing" part
[02:47:21] <seb_kuzminsky> and it's blaming everyone who was part of the push that triggered the build, which is everyone who's committed to master (or to a branch that's been merged into master) in about the past year
[02:48:25] <andypugh> So much so that the information about what the problem is is being pushed out the top of the message, just leaving the blamelist.
[02:48:53] <andypugh> I wasn't even aware that the buildbot built JA3
[02:53:06] <seb_kuzminsky> well it
[02:53:12] <seb_kuzminsky> it's a big blame list this time
[02:53:27] <seb_kuzminsky> the buildbot builds everything that gets pushed to git.linuxcnc.org
[02:54:22] <andypugh> Nice to see all the names, in some ways.
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[03:16:31] <linuxcnc-build_> build #70 of precise-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-realtime-rip/builds/70 blamelist: Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>
[03:17:42] <linuxcnc-build_> build #868 of lucid-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-i386-sim/builds/868 blamelist: Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>
[03:17:56] <linuxcnc-build_> build #870 of precise-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-sim/builds/870 blamelist: Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>
[03:19:02] <linuxcnc-build_> build #872 of precise-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-amd64-sim/builds/872 blamelist: Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>
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[03:19:39] * KimK clicks on "blame buildbot right back"
[03:21:06] <KimK> Has the buildbot not built ja3 before?
[03:21:19] <linuxcnc-build_> build #869 of lucid-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-i386-realtime-rip/builds/869 blamelist: Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>
[03:22:05] <linuxcnc-build_> build #871 of hardy-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-amd64-sim/builds/871 blamelist: Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>
[03:24:27] <linuxcnc-build_> build #868 of lucid-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-amd64-sim/builds/868 blamelist: Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>
[03:24:40] <linuxcnc-build_> build #868 of hardy-amd64-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-amd64-realtime-rip/builds/868 blamelist: Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>
[03:26:18] <linuxcnc-build_> build #869 of hardy-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-sim/builds/869 blamelist: Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>
[03:27:42] <linuxcnc-build_> build #869 of hardy-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-realtime-rip/builds/869 blamelist: Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>
[03:27:43] <linuxcnc-build_> build #867 of checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/867 blamelist: Michael Geszkiewicz <micges@wp.pl>
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[03:38:14] <cradek> kgb reenabled
[03:48:32] <seb_kuzminsky> what's failing is all the new sim tests i added :-(
[03:49:23] <seb_kuzminsky> and the logs that would tell us why aren't saved off by the buildbot :-(
[03:52:06] <seb_kuzminsky> because it can't home, and then task segfaults
[03:52:11] <seb_kuzminsky> awesome!
[03:52:22] <KimK> Hi Seb, we like new tests (of any kind), I'm sure you'll get it figured out. Thanks for all your hard work on it (and other stuff too).
[03:52:35] <seb_kuzminsky> hi KimK :-)
[03:53:15] <KimK> Hey, so you've got it figured out already? That *is* awesome.
[03:55:44] <seb_kuzminsky> i have no idea why it's crashing
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[03:57:16] <seb_kuzminsky> hi mhaberler, i just got a backtrace in task (in ja3) thanks to emc/task/backtrace.cc, very handy, thanks!
[03:58:02] <mhaberler> well it needs a bit of polish, but better than 'your fault, core dumped'
[03:58:22] <seb_kuzminsky> core dumps are nice too ;-)
[03:58:43] <zultron> Whoa, mhaberler's up super early today
[03:59:13] <seb_kuzminsky> hi zultron
[04:01:37] <zultron> Hi seb_kuzminsky!
[04:02:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05master 22201e9 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/task/taskclass.cc * task: add missing newlines on some log messages
[04:04:07] <zultron> After my several hours' work getting the pbuilder going for hardy, Michael decided to buy a new motherboard for testing instead. ;(
[04:04:33] <zultron> Anyway, your help adding the updates repos is an improvement to my other pbuilder configs.
[04:04:45] <seb_kuzminsky> pbuilder is useful even if you have a new motherboard
[04:05:47] <mhaberler> that hardy kernel oopses during boot on this board (e450 brazos) - I think it's time to retire the concept of builds on hardy
[04:06:25] <seb_kuzminsky> what hardy kernel oopses?
[04:06:31] <mhaberler> cant even test the result anymore, need to go to the wastebin to find 'compatible hardware'
[04:06:32] <zultron> Aaah, that's why you were saying no USB & broken r8169.
[04:06:49] * zultron can now add 2 and 2
[04:06:52] <mhaberler> the hardy amd64 build
[04:07:22] <seb_kuzminsky> the upstream ubuntu kernel for hardy amd64 oopses on some new motherboard you bought?
[04:07:26] <zultron> Is that 3.5.7?
[04:07:29] <seb_kuzminsky> i dont understand what you're saying
[04:07:37] <mhaberler> the _rtai_ kernel
[04:07:43] <mhaberler> well I could patch around the r8169 issue but not usb
[04:08:17] <seb_kuzminsky> the rtai-on-3.5.7 kernel i built oopses when you boot a hardy machine with it?
[04:08:26] <mhaberler> http://www.linuxcnc.org/dists/hardy/base/binary-amd64/linux-image-2.6.24-16-rtai_2.6.24-16.30.linuxcnc.1_amd64.deb
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[04:08:37] <seb_kuzminsky> oh, that kernel
[04:08:53] * seb_kuzminsky shrugs
[04:09:09] <KimK> Say, do you guys have any advice or suggestions on new motherboards? (Any physical size qualifies, I'm not stuck to the mini-boards). As long as I can have at least one PCI slot for Mesa, two slots would be nice JIC.
[04:09:28] <mhaberler> well that, and a missing kernel include file is the reason the build doesnt complete for hardy/amd64/rt
[04:09:45] <seb_kuzminsky> KimK: i haven't bought a motherboard for a long time, i have no idea what's available now or what's good
[04:09:57] <seb_kuzminsky> there was some talk on emc-users (i think) recently about good/bad motherboard, i think
[04:10:17] <zultron> I only buy motherboards 5+ years old. :P
[04:10:56] <KimK> seb_kuzminsky: OK, yes, I guess I should look there first. I'm *way* behind on reading the list.
[04:10:58] <seb_kuzminsky> mhaberler:
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-amd64-realtime-rip
[04:11:31] <seb_kuzminsky> hardy amd64 rtai does build 2.5 and master happily
[04:11:57] <seb_kuzminsky> (the two recent failures are ja3)
[04:12:35] <mhaberler> I was referring to rtos-integration-preview3 and dynload-rtapi
[04:12:42] <seb_kuzminsky> oh hey, speaking of ja3, there's a problem with task that you (mhaberler) might know about:
[04:12:45] <seb_kuzminsky> emcTaskOnce: Python plugin configuredemcTaskOnce: extract(task_instance): KeyError: ('task',)
[04:12:50] <zultron> I think he said it oopses on boot.
[04:13:16] <seb_kuzminsky> zultron: he did say that. but then he said it doesnt build. now i'm twice confused ;-)
[04:13:44] <mhaberler> a koops is not necessarily fatal
[04:13:53] <mhaberler> I didnt say 'panic'
[04:14:25] <zultron> Oh, no baggy with a kernel dump, dang
[04:14:43] <mhaberler> that 'KeyError' is not an error - all it says the C++ methods have not been overridden by python methods
[04:14:48] <seb_kuzminsky> that task error message is from ja3, it seems to happen any time you try to start task
[04:15:09] <mhaberler> can be ignored or removed, to unconfuse lusers
[04:15:22] <seb_kuzminsky> i guess i'm a luser, because it confused me
[04:15:32] <seb_kuzminsky> then it said this, which also confused me:
[04:15:34] <seb_kuzminsky> emcTaskOnce: no Python Task() instance available, using default iocontrol-based task methods
[04:16:02] <mhaberler> this is debugging info, and says 'you're all fine using the legacy code' ;)
[04:16:39] <seb_kuzminsky> ok
[04:16:44] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks
[04:16:57] <mhaberler> if you want to understand what this does, have a look at sim/remap/no-iocontrol
[04:17:30] <mhaberler> it removes iocontrol completely and replaces it by embedded python - meaning it might be relevant for your tooltable work
[04:19:20] <mhaberler> sorry, sim/remap/iocontrol-removed:
http://git.mah.priv.at/gitweb?p=emc2-dev.git;a=tree;f=configs/sim/remap/iocontrol-removed;h=373d5f07f49612416f7db9e9724dc1fc80048831;hb=4d727170ead9d762139c441ef87f762db2379a23
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[04:37:30] <seb_kuzminsky> the reason ja3 fails the new tests is that the ini files lack a [KINS] section (i think)
[04:38:01] <seb_kuzminsky> before ja3 makes it into master we should make it do something more user-friendly than segfault if the user's ini file hasn't been updated
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[04:45:37] <mhaberler> real men resolve config issues with gdb and core dumps
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[04:46:57] <zultron> I just look at the machine code with od. Wimp.
[04:52:28] <mhaberler> that clearly bumps your guru factor ;)
[04:53:10] <zultron> Isn't Arnold Schwartzenegger from your home town?
[04:53:26] <zultron> Can you clear this up? What's his real height, anyway?
[04:53:41] <zultron> I bet he uses od to debug.
[04:55:42] <mhaberler> no, he points a pumpgun at the coder
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[05:33:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 e56525f 06linuxcnc 10tests/ 10(8 files in 8 dirs) * tests: update ini files for ja3
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[16:40:55] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky: in your work on the tool changer logic - did you look at the fanuc style tool patch?
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[18:14:27] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05v2.5_branch 70bda15 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/pncconf.py * pncconf -fix numbering of 5i25 mainboard GPIO
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[19:50:00] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks: i did not look at any out-of-tree patches, i only debugged what's currently in 2.5 & master
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[20:03:02] <micges> seb_kuzminsky: Hi, sorry for not fixing all runtests
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[22:15:57] <alex_joni> anyone around?
[22:18:02] <andypugh> Maybe
[22:18:19] <alex_joni> hi andy
[22:20:30] <L84Supper> I started talking to Siemens about getting the LinuxCNC settings in NX CAM since a large OEM customer has asked us about doing this for them
[22:21:22] <andypugh> It isn't like LinuxCNC is especially unusual.
[22:21:22] <L84Supper> if they don't end up in the next version or so of NX they will be available for anyone to download anyway
[22:22:06] <andypugh> Though one argument against better lathe-type integration is that then there isn't one, but at least two, G-code models for LinuxCNC.
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[22:22:40] <andypugh> Though I guess that M6 and G43 could just be ignored in a toolchange-on-T scenario.
[22:22:50] <L84Supper> no, it's just that their CAM postprocessor lets you customize the output or use presets, so 3-axis mill and lathe for LinuxCNC would just be in the drop down menu
[22:23:59] <L84Supper> we'll also see how 5-axis works out
[22:24:43] <L84Supper> the full blown NX CAD with 5-axis CAM support is $35K per seat
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