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[02:19:34] <cradek> zultron: "more than five years old" is a really bizarre test, but if that's really what it's testing, you could lie to it by setting the clock...?
[02:25:14] <cradek> (do we still even use any of TeX?)
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[02:58:06] <zultron> I could set the clock, but I'm building it on a server that's doing other important things. Ho hum.
[02:58:55] <zultron> I'm guessing seb_kuzminsky must have dedicated build servers installed with all the respective distro releases?
[02:59:34] <zultron> If he's running pbuilder, I'll have to ask him how he's circumventing this problem.
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[03:00:47] <zultron> I assume TeX is being pulled in by dblatex, explicitly required in the debian/control file.
[03:02:11] <zultron> Hmm, checked the control file where the dblatex requirement is, it says this:
[03:02:14] <zultron> Maintainer: Chris Radek <chris@timeguy.com>
[03:02:15] <zultron> ;)
[03:06:02] <cradek> did you check the buildbot stdout logs for clues? I'm pretty sure he uses pbuilder.
[03:06:36] <cradek> goodnight!
[03:08:15] <zultron> 'night! Will check.
[03:08:18] <zultron> Thanks!
[03:10:46] <zultron> Looks like no pbuilder; an example of a successful run:
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-amd64-sim/builds/853
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[09:16:52] <IchGuckLive> !!! HI all BUG in 2.5.2 FOAM XYUV Speed/Velocity is not regionised in mm/min only in inch/min !!!!
[09:23:21] <IchGuckLive> G17 G21 G54 G90 G80 G61
[09:23:23] <IchGuckLive> G0 X0 Y0 U10 V0
[09:23:24] <IchGuckLive> F100 (mm/min = 4inch/min to be changed for testin in SIM Axis_foam )
[09:23:26] <IchGuckLive> G1 X0.1 Y0 U0 V0
[09:23:27] <IchGuckLive> (change F100 to F4 see the effect G21 mm = mm/min)
[09:23:29] <IchGuckLive> M30
[09:24:57] <IchGuckLive> By till 19:00 Berlin time
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[14:40:09] <jepler> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/machining_center.html#sub:feed-rate
[14:40:14] <jepler> linuxcnc is operating as documented
[14:40:36] <jepler> the distance to move in XYZ is nonzero, so that distance is used to interpret the F-number
[14:42:13] <jepler> as far as I can see, this is nothing to do with gcode units
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[14:47:10] <jepler> consider using inverse time feed mode if the way linuxcnc defines feed rates in units per minute mode
[14:47:31] <jepler> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/gcode.html#sec:G93-G94-G95-Mode
[14:50:58] <jepler> er, consider using inverse time feed mode if you are dissatisfied with the way linuxcnc defines feed rates in unites per minute mode
[14:51:27] <jepler> your post would calculate the amount of time each move would take and specify the appropriate f-number, but now in 1/minutes instead of inches or mm per minute
[14:52:07] <andypugh> I haven't tried the sample, but isn't he saying that the move is made at an inch-per-min rate even in mm mode?
[14:52:24] <jepler> yes that's what he said but I believe he's mistaken
[14:53:10] <jepler> I bet he looked at what happened and said "that move went faster than I expect" and jumped to conclusions
[14:54:00] <andypugh> Well, a move of 0.1 in X at F100 ought to always take 1/100 of a minute.
[14:54:25] <jepler> it's a move of 10 in U and .1 in X
[14:54:39] <andypugh> Ah, so it is.
[14:55:03] <jepler> so if his expectation was that the feed rate was applied to the U motion .. he'd see that it was going somewhere between 10 and 100x faster than intended
[14:55:13] <jepler> and the ratio of inch:mm is also somewhere between 10 and 100
[14:56:23] <andypugh> Does selecting the UV plane move distance calcualation into that plane? (And if not, should it?)
[14:57:04] <andypugh> I have never quite nderstood why XYZ live in a pm_cartesian, but UVW don't
[14:58:09] <jepler> no, the plane has nothing to do with the interpretation of feed rate in units-per-minute mode
[14:58:30] <andypugh> But I see strong arguments for foamcutters to use inverse time mode in the preprocessor, based on volume of foam to be melted per move.
[15:00:00] <jepler> yes; I don't know much about it, but it seems like the right feed rate is not necessarily the maximum, or the sums-of-absolutes or any other "simple" computation on the XYZ and UVW distances together
[15:00:10] <jepler> and what's right for foam might not apply to a different kind of machine
[15:00:32] <jepler> so I'm reluctant to go in and change something that's been documented as behaving in a specific way for as long as there's been written documentation
[15:01:56] <andypugh> Maybe the docs could point out that feed-per-minute is only valid for XYZ moves.
[15:02:18] <jepler> I don't know what you mean by "valid"
[15:02:23] <jepler> the docs say what will happen for all cases
[15:02:55] <andypugh> Yes, but is is only a feed-per-minute in XYZ.
[15:03:24] <andypugh> (Actually reads the docs)
[15:03:40] <andypugh> Ah, I have been labouring under a misaprehension!
[15:04:19] <andypugh> Please discount most of what I have just said
[15:05:57] <jepler> heh ok
[15:06:03] <jepler> bbl
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[17:45:03] <IchGuckLive> thanks jep for the info
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[19:16:29] <L84Supper> anyone having good luck with an open source 5-axis CAM tool?
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