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[01:09:00] <uminded> can I compile just the HAL component layer?
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[01:17:37] <seb_kuzm1nsky> uminded: that's not currently easy or convenient to do
[01:19:06] <uminded> Ahh, Im using a headless ARM board so was not sure if I could
[01:19:40] <seb_kuzm1nsky> and you want to not have to install the X stuff?
[01:19:53] <seb_kuzm1nsky> you could always install it and build the GUIs, but then not run them
[01:27:31] <andypugh> I now don't know if uminded was replying to me or seb_kuzm1nsky. Identical answers with identical timestamps on two channels..
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[01:36:47] <uminded> andypugh: I have never actually built linuxcnc and only used the live cd back about two years ago so this is going to be all new, I will explain what I want to do
[01:38:11] <uminded> I have a 1GHz arm board, I want to serve a web interface to the user so no X is required. I will need G-Code interpreting and the full stepgen system
[01:39:00] <uminded> And I already have a working 3.4.24 kernel with Xenomai 2.6.2.1 running with 21us worst case response
[01:39:12] <andypugh> Are you the chap who has already done this?
[01:39:29] <andypugh> (IRC names and email adresses rarely match).
[01:40:18] <andypugh> There is at least one chap running LinuxCNC on the Raspberry Pi with a web-server GUI (miniEMC2)
[01:40:40] <andypugh> And others running LinuxCNC on the Beaglebone
[01:41:59] <uminded> Not one of those, Im using an AllWinner A13, twice as fast as those chips but pretty new with horrible documentation lol
[01:42:58] <seb_kuzm1nsky> cradek: i'm rebuilding the 3.5.7-rtai kernel without pae, might make your non-booting old machines boot
[01:43:10] <seb_kuzm1nsky> the downside is it only supports up to 4 GB ram
[01:43:27] <andypugh> That's not a huge downside for LinuxCNC
[01:44:11] <andypugh> uminded: Gave you seen:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.devel/9292/focus=9300
[01:44:15] <andypugh> (have)
[01:47:53] <uminded> I have not, I am currently wandering through the miniEMC2 svn repo
[01:49:17] * seb_kuzm1nsky remembers svn...
[01:50:58] <uminded> lol git has pretty much taken over eh
[01:56:19] <seb_kuzm1nsky> and good riddance ;-)
[01:56:53] <seb_kuzm1nsky> cradek: i just made a VM with a pentium classic CPU, and it failed to boot the Ubuntu Precise Server CD, and complained about PAE
[01:57:04] <skunkworks> pae?
[01:57:32] <seb_kuzm1nsky> Physical Address Extension, it's awonky way to let a 32-bit processor use 36-bit addresses, so it can use more than 4 GB RAM
[01:57:58] <andypugh> Seems that Precise may have abandoned support for even more useless old hardware?
[01:58:03] <skunkworks> ah
[01:58:08] <uminded> Does the linuxcnc source configure with --host or CROSS_COMPILE? Or do I need to use the long winded method of defining cc, ld, etc?
[01:58:21] <seb_kuzm1nsky> andypugh: no, i think they still support old hardware, with the "Alternate" install CDs
[01:58:35] <seb_kuzm1nsky> i'm downloading the alternate cd now, will report back soonish
[02:00:22] <seb_kuzm1nsky> skunkworks: cradek is still using computers from the mesozoic era
[02:00:58] <skunkworks> heh
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[02:05:56] <uminded> configure: error: Xinerama library or headers not found. I have everything with Cinerama in the description installed from aptitude.
[02:11:03] <seb_kuzm1nsky> uminded: are you on the master branch or v2.5_branch?
[02:11:59] <uminded> v2.5.1, was the only source download I found
[02:12:09] <seb_kuzm1nsky> ok, that's fine
[02:13:44] <seb_kuzm1nsky> cradek: the ubuntu "alternate" boot cd doesn't boot on my pentium VM either :-/
[02:14:23] <seb_kuzm1nsky> it does boot on pentium2
[02:15:39] <seb_kuzm1nsky> and the regular (non-alternate) install cd also boots on pentium2
[02:15:46] <seb_kuzm1nsky> so i dont think i learned anything
[02:16:08] <andypugh> seb_kuzm1nsky: Hassle Canonical
[02:16:18] <seb_kuzm1nsky> no
[02:16:44] <andypugh> Ok, enquire of Canonical?
[02:18:09] <uminded> checking X11/extensions/Xinerama.h usability... no So I gave it .configure --x-includes=/usr/include/X11/extensions/ I had this on another machine, why does it even want multihead monitor libraries?
[02:18:52] <seb_kuzm1nsky> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure-1.Boot.2C_Installation_and_Post-Installation
[02:19:05] <seb_kuzm1nsky> "The Ubuntu 12.04 installation image does not include support for old computers that do not support PAE. If your computer is affected, you can either first install Ubuntu 10.04 or 11.10 and upgrade to 12.04 or you can use the Lubuntu or Xubuntu images. The non-PAE version of the Linux kernel will be dropped completely following the 12.04 release. "
[02:19:42] <seb_kuzm1nsky> uminded: good question!
[02:19:45] <seb_kuzm1nsky> i don't know!
[02:20:52] <jepler> it is supposed to make the linuxcnc splash image appear at the center of a monitor, not at the center of the bounding rectangle of all monitors.
[02:20:53] <seb_kuzm1nsky> maybe i should try the lubuntu kernel for the base instead
[02:21:12] <seb_kuzm1nsky> a wild jepler appears!
[02:23:36] <uminded> jepler: its a bit silly to fail the ./configure on a splash library. Is their a way to disable the check for these files? --x-includes= in any combo does not find the Xinerama.h file
[02:24:47] <seb_kuzm1nsky> uminded: i assume you tried "./configure --without-x"?
[02:25:08] <jepler> I don't think we have "--without-x" or if we do it's probably quite bitrotted by now
[02:25:30] <jepler> on the other hand, if somebody offered a patch to implement or revive it, that'd be dandy
[02:25:54] <seb_kuzm1nsky> we have one
[02:26:00] <seb_kuzm1nsky> i dont know if it works or not
[02:26:16] <seb_kuzm1nsky> it's certainly not tested regularly
[02:26:45] <uminded> can I has?
[02:27:14] <seb_kuzm1nsky> you can has test it and report back
[02:27:41] <andypugh> Does anyone know enough about pause and spindle and halui.program.resume to pop over to the other channel and stop me looking stupid?
[02:28:09] <jepler> checking for X... disabled
[02:28:10] <jepler> checking X11/extensions/Xinerama.h usability... yes
[02:28:23] <jepler> yeah that's not right
[02:28:26] <jepler> patches welcome
[02:29:16] <seb_kuzm1nsky> haha
[02:30:44] * jepler double checks he's in -devel
[02:30:55] <jepler> yup, so suggesting that somebody develop some software seems appropriate
[02:31:09] <seb_kuzm1nsky> the board should appoint someone to work on that
[02:31:46] <jepler> oh please don't troll
[02:31:51] <jepler> it confuses some people
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[02:32:43] <uminded> Can I just "snip out" the lines that check for Xinerama.h from config.in as a bypass for now?
[02:33:08] <uminded> I have no knowledge of the autoconfig system...
[02:35:24] <jepler> if you remove the right parts you'll still hit a compile error when the xinerama header is used
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[02:36:14] <jepler> (I suspect)
[02:37:47] <uminded> any way to pass the absolute path to the config? I have the libraries, its just not finding them
[02:38:55] <jepler> it doesn't look that way
[02:39:22] <jepler> (the source file would still use the standard location <X11/extensions/Xinerama.h> anyway)
[02:41:59] <seb_kuzm1nsky> lubuntu alternate i386 does not boot on pentium either
[02:42:15] <uminded> I tried CFLAGS=-I/usr/include/ but that doesnt get past the configure script but should solve the compiling no?
[02:46:09] <seb_kuzm1nsky> both ubuntu-alternate-i386 and Lubuntu-alt-i386 boot on pentiumpro
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[02:52:51] <jepler> I verified that CFLAGS is used when checking for X11/extensions/Xinerama.h
[02:53:03] <jepler> configure:7194: checking X11/extensions/Xinerama.h usability
[02:53:03] <jepler> configure:7194: gcc -c -mtune=native conftest.c >&5
[02:53:03] <jepler> configure:7194: $? = 0
[02:53:03] <jepler> configure:7194: result: yes
[02:53:32] <jepler> (I specified CFLAGS=-mtune-native)
[02:55:54] <jepler> 'night all
[02:56:00] <seb_kuzm1nsky> seeya jeff
[02:59:47] <uminded> I don't know what that means.... I am using ./configure --build=arm-none-linux-gnueabi --without-x and it does not ask for the xinerama.h files
[03:03:38] <uminded> its strange as it seems to only search for xinerama.h when your cross compiling with --host for CC=, I can built it normally though
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[03:10:56] <seb_kuzm1nsky> uminded: you're off the beaten path now, expect some rough road ahead...
[03:13:05] <uminded> You guys know any website that have the build steps for other arm machines?? If this is an issue when using --host then ALL cross compiles should be broken. Or im doing it wrong
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[07:57:25] <seb_kuzm1nsky> cradek: i put up new rtai debs, without pae this time, try it on those old machines you have
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[14:23:51] <jepler> contrary to what unminded seemed to think, I don't know whether anybody is cross-compiling linuxcnc. I know that when I was messing with the beagleboard I ran my whole development environment on it.
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[14:43:08] <andypugh> I _think_ people are cross-compiling for Pi. Using Yocto in at least one case metioned on the list
https://www.yoctoproject.org
[15:05:17] <mhaberler> never tried crossbuild for pi/bb except kerneö
[15:05:19] <mhaberler> kernel
[15:07:24] <mhaberler> I run both the rpi and bb's via nfs root, so I could crosscompile on the server
[15:08:56] <mhaberler> jepler - what do you think about that gcc -MG flag?
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[15:41:12] <jepler> mhaberler: sorry, I must be missing context..
[15:41:33] <mhaberler> I sent you a mail re 'failed to remake Makefile'
[15:41:46] <mhaberler> need blessing ;)
[15:45:38] <jepler> we have at least one generated header, config.h
[15:45:54] <jepler> here's one jackass thing that would be broken if -MG is removed:
[15:45:59] <jepler> ./configure ...; rm config.h; make
[15:47:23] <mhaberler> oh man
[15:48:13] <mhaberler> I started integrating protobuf which autogenerates .c/.h/.cc and the deps are incredible pain
[15:48:45] <mhaberler> I dont know how to do it without a separate Makefile for the autogeneration prerequisite
[15:48:53] <jepler> that's what -MG is *for*
[15:49:07] <jepler> at the dependency generation step the list of required headers is generated for you
[15:49:35] <mhaberler> afaict not with the proper path prefix?
[15:50:24] <mhaberler> if a header is missing it goes into a .d file without a path and that causes the 'failed to …' error
[15:50:27] <jepler> oh, you also have to use a relative path (rather than relying on a path specified by -I or -iquote) for generated headers
[15:50:57] <mhaberler> you mean relative in the code where a file is included?
[15:51:01] <jepler> so you'd use #include "generated/foo/bar/baz.h", not -Igenerated/foo/bar and #include "baz.h"
[15:51:09] <mhaberler> ah
[15:51:18] <mhaberler> that might work
[15:51:36] <jepler> I am pretty sure it's relative to the working directory of the gcc process, not the directory of the source file
[15:51:50] <mhaberler> yes, it all happens in src
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[15:52:11] <jepler> anyway, maybe what you want to try is adding -MP
[15:52:30] <jepler> (to fix 'failed to remake makefile')
[15:52:57] <mhaberler> yes, I looked into it - give it a try (I admit I'm a makefile illiterate)
[15:53:21] <mhaberler> you mean the fact that it sticks - that is nasty and would be nice to get rid of
[15:53:45] <mhaberler> the fact per se is ok
[15:55:16] <jepler> another alternative is to make Makefile depend on every generated header
[15:55:28] <jepler> .. and drop -MG
[15:55:38] <jepler> that'll fix the "I typo'd a header file" problem
[15:55:57] <jepler> but I think without -MP you get the "I pulled and a header file was removed upstream" problem which also leads to 'failed to re-make makefile'
[15:56:31] <jepler> http://emergent.unpythonic.net/files/sandbox/0001-get-rid-of-MG.patch
[15:57:42] <mhaberler> I'll give it a try; anyway thanks a lot for the path hint, that was really helpful
[15:57:54] <jepler> sure
[15:58:26] <mhaberler> I'll let you know how it pans out - very easy to create a paralle-unsafe makefile
[15:58:37] <jepler> unfortunately yes
[16:05:47] <jepler> is BUILD_SYS normal ever used anymore? That's the pre-kbuild module building system, isn't it?
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[16:15:40] <mhaberler> let me see
[16:16:10] <mhaberler> yes, very much in the new rtos branches
[16:16:16] <jepler> oh ok
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[16:17:20] <mhaberler> because kernel doesnt imply userRT/kernelRT uniquely anymore
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[16:17:52] <mhaberler> I sort of recycled it
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[16:23:46] <jepler> I am looking at v2.5_branch
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[17:10:31] <cradek> seb_kuzm1nsky: thanks for the hint of using the alternate install cd - I will try that.
[17:11:07] <cradek> seb_kuzm1nsky: the one with the pae problem is a laptop with known bad realtime performance, so I didn't care about it. sorry for not being clear about that.
[17:11:34] <cradek> the others (pentium 4 and a 4-cpu xeon) do not give that error
[17:12:50] <cradek> they're not gratuitously old either - I consider these real test results, not just trying old stuff for fun (like your original pentium)
[17:13:35] <cradek> if we roll a cd, it'd be nice if it worked on most stuff currently easily running lucid
[17:16:04] <cradek> (fwiw, my laptop with the pae complaint is pentium "M" 1700 MHz, 2GB or so of ram, runs lucid well)
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[17:22:01] <jepler> what say we speed up full builds (sim / no docs) by 20% and fix 'failed to remake Makefile' in the case of typo'd or removed image files.
http://git.unpythonic.net/view?p=linuxcnc-jepler.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/improved-deps or emergent.unpythonic.net/files/sandbox/improved-deps.patches.mbox
[17:22:43] <cradek> woo
[17:23:29] <jepler> er, typo'd or removed header files
[17:23:48] <jepler> one of the changes there pertains to typo'd or removed image files, but the change there was to skip that logic when not building docs
[17:24:24] <jepler> anyway, on my system a build was 1m7s wall. With just the doc dep change it was 1m3s. With all 4 changes it's 51s.
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[17:25:00] <jepler> er hold on, I missed committing one bit of that
[17:25:35] <jepler> .. refreshed
[17:25:54] <seb_kuzm1nsky> wow that sounds great jepler
[17:26:15] <seb_kuzm1nsky> cradek: i didn't think you were trolling with old hardware, i was just messing with you and looking for boundaries
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[18:09:51] <cradek> after some false starts, looks like the alternate may work on the xeon
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[18:15:47] <cradek> maybe
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[18:23:45] <cradek> probably!
[18:31:33] <cradek> almost certainly...
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[19:18:51] <mhaberler> failed to remake Makefile' now is non-sticky?
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[19:43:25] <mhaberler> jepler: pathnames for includes did the trick - all fine. thanks a lot - that was a tough one
[19:43:28] <mhaberler> (for me9
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[20:13:14] <jepler> mhaberler: cool, so you got it worked out?
[20:14:11] <mhaberler> absolutly, this was really bugging me - works without a hitch. and the contortions which broke parallel build can be deleted
[20:15:05] <mhaberler> fixing a protobuf generator to do the proper #include now, but thats harmless compared to a broken makefile
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[21:30:03] <cradek> fifth machine (P4, 1G ram) boots the desktop but the dock icons are invisible and then it kernel panics after a bit
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[21:50:46] <cradek> 90% through the install, X restarted and gave me a login where my account wasn't recognized
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[21:51:48] <cradek> I don't understand how people are using precise successfully
[21:53:42] <cradek> trying alternate on this one
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[22:10:45] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05master a8f613c 06emc2 10src/emc/usr_intf/gscreen/gscreen.py * gscreen -fix asorted visual bugs, add unlockcode to preferences
[22:10:45] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05master 09e29b8 06emc2 10configs/sim/gscreen_custom/ 10industrial.glade 10industrial_handler.py * gscreen config -use unlock code from prefeence file, remove frame
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[22:19:13] <mhaberler> preserve sanity, install linux mint, be done
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[22:24:52] <cradek> I guess, again, these are valid test results
[22:25:39] <cradek> we'll eventually want to roll a new cd and its basis is something I've always assumed would be precise, but perhaps it should be mint, or even a plain debian
[22:28:48] <cradek> Why does Linux Mint include proprietary drivers? It doesn't. If it did, it would be legally wrong (because it would violate the GPL) or ethically wrong (if some dirty trick was used for the user to link the code to the kernel for instance).
[22:28:56] <cradek> (linux mint faq)
[22:32:44] <jepler> while I hate proprietary hardware drivers more than most proprietary software, I don't think they're right in their first claim.
[22:33:04] <jepler> I suppose they're saying it's either one or the other, not necessarily the first
[22:34:26] <jepler> whatever irritations I have at Ubuntu, I feel their "proprietary drivers" dialog circa 10.04 was as clear as can be
[22:36:18] <cradek> I'm going to try Mint 13, 32-bit MATE with seb's packages
[22:36:48] <cradek> if it boots/runs/installs on this handful of machines I'm going to be pretty darn sold
[22:37:05] <cradek> but I should be making a 2.5 release instead of this playing
[22:41:47] <seb_kuzm1nsky> cradek: take your time playing, i don't mind getting some runtime on the toolno/pocketno patches before you make the release!
[22:48:30] <seb_kuzm1nsky> i think cmorley just volunteered on the mailing list to be the 2.6 release manager!
[22:48:36] <seb_kuzm1nsky> oh, hi cmorley! ;-)
[22:48:51] <cmorley> :) lol
[22:57:00] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03jepler 05master 22d0eba 06emc2 10docs/src/Submakefile * Don't do unneeded stuff when not building docs
[22:57:00] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03jepler 05master a6304c5 06emc2 10src/Makefile * Improve dependency generation
[22:57:02] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03jepler 05master cca63ed 06emc2 10src/Makefile * Fix incorrect extensions for preprocessed source files
[22:57:08] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03jepler 05master 0432ec2 06emc2 10src/Makefile * Further explain what this misnamed variable means
[22:57:14] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03jepler 05master 1690b80 06emc2 10docs/src/Submakefile 10src/Makefile * Merge branch 'improved-deps'
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[23:11:47] <jepler> ummmm my build modified git-tracked file redis/redis/src/Makefile.dep
[23:12:50] <jepler> that doesn't seem right
[23:13:28] <jepler> (it reordered one of the stanzas)
[23:13:47] <jepler> my first reaction is that must be a purely generated file so why's it tracked at all.../
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[23:15:30] <linuxcnc-build> build #811 of hardy-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-realtime-rip/builds/811 blamelist: Chris Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>
[23:15:30] <linuxcnc-build> build #809 of checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/809 blamelist: Chris Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>
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[23:19:09] <jepler> cradek: I assume this is me making KGB sweaty?
[23:19:09] <jepler> remote: SOAP FAULT while talking to
http://localhost:9999/
[23:19:10] <jepler> remote: FAULT MESSAGE: Server is overworked
[23:19:10] <jepler> remote: Unable to complete notification. All servers failed
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[23:19:33] <cradek> is that in your push stdout?
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[23:19:57] <jepler> cradek: yes
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[23:20:08] <cradek> yeah probably
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[23:20:14] <cradek> poor KGB-linuxcnc
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[23:20:21] <jepler> I guess there were a lot of commits in there
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[23:22:03] <cradek> oops I just nuked linuxcnc-build
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[23:22:50] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chris 05v2.5_branch 2036365 06emc2 10VERSION 10debian/changelog * 2.5.2 Release
[23:22:56] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chris 05signed tags c27fc85 06emc2 03v2.5.2 * 2.5.2 Release (tagged commit: 2036365)
[23:23:52] <alex_joni> yay 2.5.2
[23:23:57] <jepler> yay thank you!
[23:24:03] <cradek> I predict the build will take a while...
[23:24:04] <cradek> welcome!
[23:25:47] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03elson 05v2.5_branch 68c6407 06emc2 03configs/USC_encod/README * add new config file set for USC with encoders
[23:25:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03elson 05v2.5_branch 29934c3 06emc2 03configs/USC_encod/univstep.ini * add new config file set for USC with encoders
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[23:25:50] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03elson 05v2.5_branch fa96af9 06emc2 10configs/USC_encod/ 03univstep_io.hal 03univstep_load.hal 03univstep_motion.hal 03univstep_servo.hal * add new config file set for USC with encoders
[23:25:58] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03elson 05v2.5_branch 52c8586 06emc2 03configs/USC_encod/univstep.tbl * add new config file set for USC with encoders
[23:26:05] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03elson 05v2.5_branch 87fe2d9 06emc2
[23:26:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> Merge branch 'v2.5_branch' of git://git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc into v2.5_branch
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[23:27:02] <jepler> cradek: I'm about to push another batch. should I do something about KGB first?
[23:27:26] <cradek> KGB-linuxcnc: help
[23:27:27] <KGB-linuxcnc> cradek: My master told me to not respond.
[23:27:30] <cradek> haha
[23:27:49] <alex_joni> heh
[23:27:49] <cradek> hmm, wait a minute.
[23:28:11] <alex_joni> you could silence him temporarely
[23:29:45] <cradek> jepler: I just disabled the hook
[23:29:51] <jepler> cradek: OK thanks
[23:30:08] <cradek> KGB-linuxcnc: !version
[23:30:08] <jepler> i'll let you know when I've pushed
[23:30:09] <KGB-linuxcnc> cradek: You are not my master
[23:30:13] <cradek> ok
[23:30:24] <cradek> KGB-linuxcnc: actually I would be if you were working right
[23:30:25] <KGB-linuxcnc> cradek: My master told me to not respond.
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[23:31:31] <cradek> KGB-linuxcnc: !version
[23:31:32] <KGB-linuxcnc> cradek: Tried /CTCP KGB-linuxcnc VERSION?
[23:31:41] <cradek> oh hey, lookit that, it was my fault
[23:31:54] <cradek> KGB-linuxcnc: help
[23:31:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> cradek: My master told me to not respond.
[23:32:01] <alex_joni> the KGB doesn't trust unauthenticated sources
[23:33:13] <jepler> cradek: push in progress..
[23:33:54] <jepler> looks like it's still sending e-mails so that's probably a bit slow
[23:35:27] <jepler> cradek: push done. thanks.
[23:37:06] <jepler> anyway, those messages were languishing in the weblate git repositories. the last contribution via l10n.unpythonic.net was last June, so I'm discontinuing the experiment.
[23:37:38] <jepler> but fwiw the author is now offering a hosted version of weblate which I encourage anyone who is interested to look into.
[23:37:40] <cradek> do you think it may have failed because the changes were never propogated?
[23:38:17] <cradek> I'm sad those didn't get in the release
[23:39:41] <jepler> I don't know.
[23:39:43] <seb_kuzm1nsky> yay!
[23:39:48] <seb_kuzm1nsky> 2.5.2! thanks cradek
[23:39:59] <jepler> eek conflicts merging v2.5 -> master
[23:41:19] <seb_kuzm1nsky> jepler: if it's in the tool change code, i might be able to help
[23:41:35] <jepler> yes it is (well the part that's not pofiles is)
[23:42:04] <jepler> so the first problem is the prototype of the canon call SELECT_POCKET
[23:42:14] <jepler> in BASE it takes the parameter int i /* i is slot number */
[23:42:23] <jepler> in REMOTE (i.e., v2.5_branch) it takes two parameters
[23:42:31] <jepler> errrr
[23:42:37] <seb_kuzm1nsky> that sounds wrong
[23:42:42] <jepler> in LOCAL (i.e., master) it takes two parameters
[23:42:48] <seb_kuzm1nsky> ah
[23:42:59] <jepler> in REMOTE (i.e., v2.5_branch_ it takes one parameter, but it's been renamed 'pocket'
[23:43:09] <seb_kuzm1nsky> yeah i renamed it in 2.5
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[23:43:11] <jepler> so should I rename the parameter i to pocket in master?
[23:43:23] <seb_kuzm1nsky> let me look at master reql quick, hold on
[23:43:49] <jepler> extern void SELECT_POCKET(int pocket, int tool); /* pocket is pocket number, tool is tool number */
[23:43:57] * jepler tries to determine how to make the comment more redundant
[23:43:57] <seb_kuzm1nsky> haha
[23:44:14] <seb_kuzm1nsky> brb
[23:44:24] <jepler> :qa
[23:44:27] <jepler> oops
[23:45:07] <jepler> and the other conflict is just about as silly -- this was deleted in v2.5_branch, while in master the whitespace around it was changed(?)
[23:45:10] <jepler> - settings->tool_table[pocket].toolno = toolno;
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[23:47:20] * seb_kuzm1nsky holds his breath while the buildbot builds...
[23:47:49] <cradek> yeah, this is like putting the screws back in the case before you see whether it boots
[23:48:11] <jepler> oh there are more conflicts in interp_convert.cc...
[23:48:38] <seb_kuzm1nsky> jepler: if you want i could do the merge up through the toolno stuff
[23:48:52] <seb_kuzm1nsky> i should probably have done that at approximately the same time i pushed it to 2.5...
[23:49:13] <seb_kuzm1nsky> the buildbot failure up above on cmorley's push was the mdi queue bug again
[23:49:41] <cmorley> Here is a weird one it seems sim/core_sim.hal is missing from linuxcnc repo - got this from forum and Yes I can't find it other then a system link to it.
[23:50:07] <cmorley> sim/manual_toolchange.hal too
[23:50:17] <seb_kuzm1nsky> cmorley: those live in configs/common
[23:50:18] <cradek> those have been moved around
[23:50:28] <cradek> you've just got stale configs
[23:50:30] <seb_kuzm1nsky> they get copied by the build system to where they're needed
[23:51:13] <cmorley> hmmm ok well sim axis9 uses these too
[23:51:33] <cradek> are you saying sim/axis9 doesn't run?
[23:52:54] <cmorley> hard for me to say. Gscreen apparently doesn't run - they all work for me cause I have the file. but I see in sim/axis there are references to core_sim.hal that are broken on gitweb
[23:54:11] <seb_kuzm1nsky> cmorley: look for COPY_CONFIGS in src/Makefile
[23:54:17] <jepler> "make" copies the file around, don't bother looking for it in git
[23:54:25] <jepler> $(call CONFILES,core_sim.hal): %/core_sim.hal: ../configs/common/core_sim.hal print_copy_configs
[23:54:28] <jepler> $(Q)-cp $< $@
[23:54:49] <jepler> I forget exactly how it works, but it hasn't changed so I choose to believe it works
[23:55:01] <cmorley> meaningless to me but I'll take your work for it.
[23:55:17] <cmorley> but gscreen is broken so i must figureout how to fix
[23:56:29] <seb_kuzm1nsky> cradek: funny think, the buildbot will not build the 2.5.2 release
[23:56:47] <jepler> cmorley: the block COPY_CONFIGS := \
[23:56:51] <cmorley> Does the make file more then into sim? I see that sim/axis has a systemlink to ../core_sim.hal
[23:57:00] <seb_kuzm1nsky> since it was busy when 2.5.2 was pushed, and then other stuff got pushed to 2.5_branch, it will just skip to the head of 2.5_branch next time it builds
[23:57:02] <cmorley> more/move sorry
[23:57:17] <jepler> if you want to copy a file such as core_sim.hal add it to the list of directories (currently halui_pyvcp and sim)
[23:57:18] <seb_kuzm1nsky> we'll force a build of the correct version and it should do the right thing
[23:57:45] <cradek> oh hell
[23:57:51] <cmorley> thats what seems to be broken - it's not in sim
[23:57:57] <seb_kuzm1nsky> no big deal
[23:58:29] <cradek> I was surprised by elson's push too
[23:58:49] <jepler> paste showing that core_sim.hal is copied by make to the required location:
http://pastebin.com/9dhbb4MY
[23:59:12] <alex_joni> missed 2.5.2 by minutes :)
[23:59:33] <cmorley> ok thanks. I will see if the forum guy has just screwed something up..