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[00:06:34] * skunkworks sends seb_kuzm1nsky positive energy
[00:08:15] * seb_kuzm1nsky looks for some negative energy to form a circuit
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[00:14:32] <skunkworks> make sure you fuse it
[00:14:43] <skunkworks> I am running on empty as it is
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[04:10:00] <seb_kuzm1nsky> shabby's rtai repo has fixes for the math module to compile:
https://github.com/ShabbyX/RTAI
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[04:37:12] <seb_kuzm1nsky> success! runtests are passing!
[04:37:41] <seb_kuzm1nsky> ubuntu 12.04, linux 3.5.7, current (as of today) rtai
[04:38:07] <seb_kuzm1nsky> shabby's fixes did the trick
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[04:39:50] <seb_kuzm1nsky> i just updated the rtai-modules deb on highlab.com with the new version that works
[04:40:10] <seb_kuzm1nsky> oh yeah, also needs a minor change to linuxcnc's rtai.conf, hold on...
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[04:46:50] <KimK> seb_kuzm1nsky: Hey, congratulations! Thanks very much for all your hard work on the new real-time stuff, buildbot, etc. Also sending a pm.
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[04:52:53] <skunkworks2> seb_kuzm1nsky: awesome :-)
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[04:56:50] <seb_kuzm1nsky> all credit to paolo and shabby for this one, i just cherry-picked and ran make... ;-)
[04:57:37] <skunkworks2> you make it sound so easy :-)
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[04:59:01] <zultron> seb_kuzm1nsky, is 'runtests' the RTAI regression test suite?
[04:59:11] <seb_kuzm1nsky> no, it's the linuxcnc one
[04:59:24] <seb_kuzm1nsky> i didn't try rtai's tests
[04:59:31] <zultron> Oh, that's right. :) Sweet, congrats!
[04:59:42] <zultron> What're you using for the kernel .config?
[05:00:24] <seb_kuzm1nsky> i started wiht ubuntu's 3.5 config
[05:00:40] <zultron> Great! Something reproducible. :)
[05:01:36] <seb_kuzm1nsky> i checked out linux-3.5.y from kernel.org, applied the 3.5.7 patch in the rtai magma repo, copied over the .config from ubuntu's linux-image-3.5 deb, 'make oldconfig' and turn on all the rtai stuff, and it all worked pretty smoothly
[05:01:56] <seb_kuzm1nsky> some hodge-podge notes on what i did are in the Notes file at the url i posted above
[05:02:44] <seb_kuzm1nsky> ah, wait, no changes are needed to linuxcnc, i was confused (it may be time for bed)
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[06:04:08] <seb_kuzm1nsky> here's my rtai repo:
https://github.com/SebKuzminsky/rtai
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[06:42:52] <seb_kuzm1nsky> linuxcnc-build: notify on failure
[06:42:53] <linuxcnc-build> The following events are being notified: ['failure']
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[06:54:09] <seb_kuzm1nsky> notify list
[06:54:15] <seb_kuzm1nsky> linuxcnc-build: notify list
[06:54:15] <linuxcnc-build> The following events are being notified: ['failure']
[06:54:18] <seb_kuzm1nsky> ok
[06:55:29] <seb_kuzm1nsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=v2.5_branch checkin
[06:55:30] <linuxcnc-build> build #800 forced
[06:55:30] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[06:56:23] <seb_kuzm1nsky> i added a precise-rtai x86 buildslave, using the debs i pointed to earlier
[06:56:56] <seb_kuzm1nsky> it's not trying to build debs yet, just compile & test, realtime, run-in-place
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[07:01:42] <linuxcnc-build> build #0 of precise-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed configuring] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-realtime-rip/builds/0
[07:01:54] <seb_kuzm1nsky> d'oh
[07:02:51] <seb_kuzm1nsky> hm, yes, bug in my rtai-modules package for precise :-(
[07:06:43] <seb_kuzm1nsky> actually this looks like a bug in the debian packaging of the kernel
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[07:52:38] <linuxcnc-build> build #802 of hardy-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-realtime-rip/builds/802
[07:53:28] <linuxcnc-build> build #800 of checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/800
[07:56:43] <seb_kuzm1nsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=v2.5_branch precise-i386-realtime-rip
[07:56:44] <linuxcnc-build> build #1 forced
[07:56:44] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[08:01:49] <seb_kuzm1nsky> ok, at least that package issue is fixed. new debs in the old place
[08:08:55] <seb_kuzm1nsky> here's the commit to linux that fixes the bug i just ran in to:
https://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f011d715984543f47ca5bf1967857a9f36f7264;hp=6607ddadf93d19c7f64139f1475c342152f39fe5
[08:09:49] <seb_kuzm1nsky> probably no chance to have it applied in 3.5, so i'm going to suggest to paolo that he put that in the rtai patch for 3.5 instead
[08:20:42] <linuxcnc-build> build #1 of precise-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed compile_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-realtime-rip/builds/1
[08:21:46] <seb_kuzm1nsky> buildbot misconfiguration, it's asking for sudo
[08:22:59] <seb_kuzm1nsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=v2.5_branch precise-i386-realtime-rip try again, i fixed /etc/sudoers
[08:23:00] <linuxcnc-build> build #2 forced
[08:23:00] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[08:37:52] <seb_kuzm1nsky> boy i love waiting for all our "translations" to build.... na-ni-na
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[08:50:59] <linuxcnc-build> Hey! build precise-i386-realtime-rip #2 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[08:50:59] <linuxcnc-build> Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-realtime-rip/builds/2
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[08:58:59] <seb_kuzm1nsky> sweet!
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[09:16:07] <seb_kuzm1nsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=master
[09:16:08] <linuxcnc-build> you must provide a Builder, try 'force build [--branch=BRANCH] [--revision=REVISION] [--props=PROP1=VAL1,PROP2=VAL2...] <WHICH> <REASON>'
[09:16:28] <seb_kuzm1nsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=master precise-i386-realtime-rip
[09:16:29] <linuxcnc-build> build forced [ETA 27m58s]
[09:16:29] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[09:21:57] <linuxcnc-build> build #3 of precise-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-realtime-rip/builds/3
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[13:29:41] <skunkworks> logger[ps
[13:29:44] <skunkworks> logger[psha],
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[14:17:18] <cradek> seb_kuzm1nsky: I'm really excited to see this...
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[14:56:18] <seb_kuzm1nsky> me too :-)
[14:56:26] <seb_kuzm1nsky> paolo and shabby rock :-)
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[14:56:54] <seb_kuzm1nsky> i want to find their snail mail addresses and mill a little trophy or something and mail it to them :-)
[14:57:12] <seb_kuzm1nsky> "thank you, from the folks of the linuxcnc project"
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[15:04:07] <mozmck> I'm glad to see this as well! I will try and get some time to do some testing on several computers before long here.
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[15:11:28] <cradek> seb_kuzm1nsky: sending them a physical object would be cool.
[15:14:05] <seb_kuzm1nsky> mozmck: i'd appreciate that! the latest kernel and rtai-modules debs that i pointed to earlier are running on the buildslave right now, and in one other vm, but more testing is badly needed :-)
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[15:15:33] <mozmck> :) I have access to a number of different computers to test with. I might even play with building the kernel into a live CD for testing.
[15:15:53] <mozmck> Have you gotten linuxCNC to run with the new kernel yet?
[15:19:04] <seb_kuzm1nsky> mozmck: i've run 'runtests' in realtime mode with this kernel, but i haven't tried to actually run linuxcnc
[15:27:17] <seb_kuzm1nsky> the reason master doesn't build is because hostmot2's pins.c tries to define an additional module parameter (in addition to the main module_params in hostmot2.c), and that apparently is verboten
[15:28:11] <seb_kuzm1nsky> moving the debug_pin_descriptors from pins.c to hostmot2.c makes it build, but i dont really know why, or if that's the right fix
[15:28:32] <seb_kuzm1nsky> calling andy pugh!
[15:28:33] <mozmck> I see. Those kind of fixes are interesting :)
[15:28:47] <seb_kuzm1nsky> heh, i've got a repo full of fixes like that ;-)
[15:29:13] <seb_kuzm1nsky> well, off to work, bye all!
[15:29:19] <mozmck> Could have something to do with #include file order. I've had weird problems with that.
[15:29:30] <mozmck> see you later!
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[17:38:30] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05master ce8f3f1 06emc2 10src/emc/rs274ngc/rs274ngc_pre.cc * fix a cut-n-paste error in a debug log message
[17:38:30] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03jthornton 05master d17f952 06emc2 10docs/src/index.tmpl * Docs: add missing chapter to html template
[17:38:33] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05master 85d06c6 06emc2 10src/rtapi/rtapi.h * expose linux's module_param() before using it
[17:38:39] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05master 0d973ff 06emc2 10docs/src/index.tmpl * Merge branch 'v2.5_branch'
[17:38:45] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05v2.5_branch 85d06c6 06emc2 10src/rtapi/rtapi.h * expose linux's module_param() before using it
[17:38:52] <seb_kuzm1nsky> this fixes the "build master on linux 3.x" problem
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[17:55:34] <seb_kuzm1nsky> linuxcnc-build: watch precise-i386-realtime-rip
[17:55:34] <linuxcnc-build> watching build precise-i386-realtime-rip #4 until it finishes [9m57s]..
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[18:22:52] <linuxcnc-build> Hey! build precise-i386-realtime-rip #4 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[18:22:52] <linuxcnc-build> Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-realtime-rip/builds/4
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[18:26:19] <skunkworks> Yay!
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[18:27:38] <seb_kuzm1nsky> yay :-)
[18:27:53] <linuxcnc-build> build #804 of precise-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-sim/builds/804 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, John Thornton <jthornton@gnipsel.com>
[18:28:02] <seb_kuzm1nsky> aww :-(
[18:28:06] <andypugh> Boo!
[18:28:18] <seb_kuzm1nsky> that's the mdi queueing bug, i bet
[18:28:20] <andypugh> Ah well, who needs sim anyway?
[18:28:47] <seb_kuzm1nsky> yes, it is
[18:29:08] <skunkworks> seb_kuzm1nsky, this would ge what to test?
http://highlab.com/~seb/linuxcnc/rtai-for-3.5-prerelease/
[18:29:15] <seb_kuzm1nsky> i just sent a request for testing to the emc-developers list
[18:29:24] <skunkworks> be
[18:29:27] <seb_kuzm1nsky> yep!
[18:29:50] <seb_kuzm1nsky> install all those debs on a vanilla 32-bit precise and compile linuxcnc by hand
[18:30:11] <skunkworks> ok.
[18:30:38] <seb_kuzm1nsky> i send it to emc-developers instead of emc-users because i think this is not ready for regular users yet
[18:31:00] <seb_kuzm1nsky> just for abnormal users who don't mind watching out for strange behavior and sending bug reports ;-)
[18:31:40] <skunkworks> I resemble that remark
[18:34:31] <seb_kuzm1nsky> i really made a mess with all those failing mdi queue tests... i'll try to clean that up asap
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[18:45:43] <linuxcnc-build> build #801 of checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/801 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, John Thornton <jthornton@gnipsel.com>
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[19:11:23] <seb_kuzm1nsky> cradek: i have two bug fixes that can go into 2.5: the mdi queue fix that i want more runtime on before we release, and the toolno fix that i think is ready to go (but whose test fails because of the mdi queue bug)
[19:11:51] <seb_kuzm1nsky> in addition there are some tests that i added to 2.5 earlier that fail intermittently because of the mdi queue bug
[19:12:53] <seb_kuzm1nsky> so i think the thing to do is to disable the intermittently-failing tests, push the toolno fix, and release 2.5.2
[19:13:11] <seb_kuzm1nsky> then after 2.5.2, turn the tests back on and push the mdi queue fix
[19:13:19] <seb_kuzm1nsky> does that sound right?
[19:13:59] <seb_kuzm1nsky> that way we release 2.5.2 with less risky stuff in it, and we get the mdi fix into 2.5 in time to get plenty of runtime before 2.5.3
[19:15:47] <seb_kuzm1nsky> it would be nice to have some runtime on th etoolno fix too, i guess... i've been running it in my garage for a while now, but i bet there are many use cases and configurations that i dont exercise...
[19:16:16] <seb_kuzm1nsky> alternatively we could release 2.5.2 now, then push both my fixes, then release 2.5.3 in a few months after the dust settles from that...
[19:20:41] <cradek> seb_kuzm1nsky: I am not sure how much testing intermediate buildbot 2.5 releases get. I wish I knew that.
[19:21:22] <cradek> I guess I'm wondering how much benefit we'd really get from any waiting
[19:26:58] <seb_kuzm1nsky> cradek: the rate of package downloads from the buildbot is high, even in between releases:
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/~seb/billions-served/
[19:27:32] <seb_kuzm1nsky> bbl lunch
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[19:28:33] <andypugh> 25k _buildbot_ downloads? Just how many users do we have?
[19:29:44] <skunkworks> 100 - 5 of which download debs whenever they can't get something to work.
[19:29:53] <skunkworks> ;)
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[20:10:36] <cradek> seb_kuzm1nsky: you did it!??!
[20:14:28] * skunkworks wonders what seb did
[20:14:47] * alex_joni wonders why
[20:15:10] <skunkworks> It is the !??! that got me
[20:15:18] <cradek> linuxcnc 2.5 on rtai on linux 3.5
[20:15:33] <skunkworks> are you asking or stating?
[20:15:36] <skunkworks> :)
[20:15:43] <alex_joni> cradek: that looked to compile about 12h earlier
[20:15:53] <alex_joni> only master failed
[20:16:17] <cradek> with a packaged kernel and rtai
[20:16:22] <cradek> (and libc???)
[20:16:53] <alex_joni> libc?
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[21:08:04] <cradek> seb_kuzm1nsky: I mirrored your files to
http://www.linuxcnc.org/seb/
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[22:32:24] <skunkworks> seb_kuzm1nsky,
http://pastebin.ca/2326826
[22:32:40] <skunkworks> bbl
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[22:38:15] <seb_kuzm1nsky> skunworks: i had the same problem, then i realized i hadn't raised my memlock ulimit on my fresh precise install
[22:38:18] * seb_kuzm1nsky blushes
[22:38:30] <seb_kuzm1nsky> cradek: i hardly did anything, paolo and shabby did it!
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[22:44:21] <seb_kuzm1nsky> skunkworks: lines 6, 14, and 22 of that paste ;-)
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[23:01:46] <skunkworks> logger[psha]:
[23:03:40] <skunkworks> I thought that should have been set by the debs..
[23:05:09] <skunkworks> That seems easy enough - I will test tomorrow
[23:08:06] <skunkworks> oh - that would have been configured in the livecd part?
[23:10:28] <skunkworks> the amd I was testing didn't work - but there was a boot message something about acpi and that I should get an updated bios
[23:13:35] <seb_kuzm1nsky> bummer!
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[23:15:11] <seb_kuzm1nsky> it'd e interesting to know if that machine boots with the vanilla ubuntu 3.5 kernel (which is what i based the rtai kernel config on)
[23:20:34] <andypugh> Precise hides the terminal window well...
[23:36:08] <skunkworks> ctl-alt-t
[23:36:20] <skunkworks> it does
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[23:46:22] <skunkworks> it take a little getting used to - but I have been running precise with unity or whatever this is for a while and I like it
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[23:51:13] <JT-Shop> is unity something different that the stock install of 12.04?
[23:53:20] <seb_kuzm1nsky> JT-Shop: unity is the default interface in 12.04 (unless you use kubuntu, xubuntu, or one of the other alternatives)
[23:53:50] <JT-Shop> I tried it once and it seems to hide everything, how do you get any work done?