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[00:18:49] <PCW> andypugh: around?
[00:19:10] <andypugh> Aye
[00:19:55] <PCW> do you know the git incantations needed to apply your patch?
[00:21:05] <andypugh> should just be git am when in the src directory
[00:25:15] <PCW> ok...
[00:25:39] <andypugh> What happens?
[00:27:41] <PCW> ok looks good
[00:27:59] <andypugh> man setsserial should have instructions
[00:28:05] <PCW> lets try breaking a 8I20...
[00:29:09] <andypugh> breaking 8i20s is my job!
[00:29:20] <andypugh> (I see that mine got delivered)
[00:29:53] <PCW> Yesterday
[00:30:19] <andypugh> I guess I wsn't imagining their broken-ness?
[00:30:59] <PCW> we dumper your ROM in case the contents prove diagnostic so we will use yours as guinea pigs again
[00:31:10] <PCW> ROMs
[00:31:52] <PCW> I need to change the FPGA card type and channel in your test file
[00:32:28] <andypugh> Ah, yes.
[00:34:54] <kwallace> At line 1494 here:
http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=blob;f=lib/python/rs274/glcanon.py;h=7eec004944df2e04ea21d6f6fd4ef89f91df1907;hb=HEAD lathe_shapes gets set outside of lathe_tool at line 1500. Why not have lathe_shapes set inside of lathe_tool where it is used?
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[00:37:42] <andypugh> Pythoin is a mystery to me
[00:38:06] <JT-Shop> it's a snake you know
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[00:45:30] <PCW> Hmm cant find setserial.ko
[00:47:01] <PCW> just applied patch/make clean/make is there something else needed in the make file to install new modules?
[00:48:26] <kwallace> Well, it seems to work, but I would hate to break LinuxCNC proper. Near the bottom here:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Gremlin
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[00:54:09] <andypugh> PCW: I am not sure.
[00:54:19] <andypugh> Did the makefile get changed at all?
[00:55:21] <andypugh> Is setsserial a comp?
[00:55:29] <andypugh> I can't remember.
[00:56:44] <andypugh> No, it's plain C
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[00:58:01] <andypugh> It may be that the makefile changes didn't get included
[00:59:57] <andypugh> Are you in Master or 2,5?
[01:00:07] <PCW> master
[01:00:28] <andypugh> Odd.
[01:01:18] <PCW> it made setserial.o just didnt make or install? setserial.ko
[01:01:41] <andypugh> If you look in the makefile, is setsserial mentioned in lines 741 and 774?
[01:02:05] <PCW> looking...
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[01:04:36] <PCW> yes
[01:05:33] <andypugh> I am puzzled then.
[01:05:44] <andypugh> the compile stage is a bit of a mystery to me.
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[01:06:15] <PCW> some permissions thing? (actual first error is 'error inserting longpath/setserial.ko operation not permitted')
[01:06:26] <andypugh> It's also very late here.
[01:06:35] <PCW> yes
[01:06:38] <andypugh> Hopefully someone Linux-y can help.
[01:06:51] <andypugh> Ah, sudo make setuid?
[01:07:02] <PCW> yes did that
[01:07:39] <PCW> the error comes when sourcing test.hal
[01:07:51] <andypugh> Seems odd, as the simpler setsserial is already there in master.
[01:08:22] <andypugh> Ah, it might just be that it's like that
[01:08:39] <andypugh> quietly quitting a loadrt is tricky.
[01:09:02] <andypugh> Are you running a second window with the kernel log tailed into it like the manpage says?
[01:09:16] <PCW> no but i can
[01:09:33] <andypugh> Well, just dmesg will have the same info.
[01:09:51] <andypugh> It might even say "flashing success" :-)
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[01:14:18] <andypugh> OK PCW, I really do need to sleep now.
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[01:14:35] <PCW> OK my fault! SSLBP version to low for CRC disable
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[12:49:43] <jthornton> http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/26078-m06-atc-problem-with-matsuura-fx5?start=6#29079
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[13:58:17] <dgarr> a small bugfix, for consideration:
http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/0001-emcmodule.cc-fail-gracefully-for-linuxcnc.ini.patch
[14:12:33] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03dgarrett 05v2.5_branch 209108a 06emc2 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/extensions/emcmodule.cc * emcmodule.cc: fail gracefully for linuxcnc.ini()
[14:12:45] <cradek> dgarr: thanks
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[14:25:03] <jepler> hmmm
[14:28:21] <jepler> this has sent me reading documentation, and there's another uncommon oddity that the code doesn't handle right
[14:28:37] <jepler> my first concern was whether self->i was guaranteed zero-initialized (it is)
[14:28:59] <jepler> BUT for a given object, it's possible to call Ini_init multiple times, and this leaks file descriptors
[14:29:50] <jepler> http://pastebin.com/7c0zr0Jv
[14:30:30] <jepler> it eventually fails (and with a problem generating the error report!) because it hits the file descriptor limit
[14:31:42] <jepler> ah, and the patch isn't right because it fails to PyObject_Del(self), so it's a memory leak
[14:32:12] <dgarr> i hope you fix it the right way -- i just didn't like the segfault:)
[14:32:23] <jepler> I don't blame you
[14:32:27] <jepler> thanks for making me look anyway
[14:32:29] <jepler> er, too
[14:37:13] <jepler> why oh why isn't there IniFile::~IniFile which calls Close() when appropriate?
[14:37:17] <jepler> oh well
[14:38:07] <jepler> anybody want to poke holes in this before I push it to 2.5?
http://emergent.unpythonic.net/files/sandbox/0001-Don-t-leak-file-descriptors-or-memory-when-abused.patch
[14:41:25] <dgarr> i was looking at the linuxcnc class to see if there could be a way to implement a method (in stat?) that returned the name of the inifile in use
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[15:09:45] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 052.5-doc-anchors 9a64779 06emc2 10docs/src/Submakefile * doc build: use w3c's link checker, if available
[15:09:45] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 052.5-doc-anchors 77e7958 06emc2 10docs/ 03html/linuxcnc.css 10src/Submakefile 04src/linuxcnc.css * doc build: make CSS and JS stuff external to the docs
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[15:18:39] <cradek> jepler: I trust you more than me
[15:19:20] <dgarr> me too
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[16:32:01] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: that patch looks reasonable to me
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[16:58:54] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03jepler 05v2.5_branch 5493116 06emc2 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/extensions/emcmodule.cc * Don't leak file descriptors or memory when abused
[17:00:25] <cradek> jepler: thanks
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[17:05:17] <dgarr> jepler: what he said
[17:05:32] <cradek> I should probably be looking at the pid change again.
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[17:10:28] <jepler> welcome
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[17:31:22] <seb_kuzminsky> well that's something different:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Haz7rilcjHA
[17:32:41] <cradek> that's the only safe way to use a chainsaw
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[18:10:23] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 052.5-doc-anchors 1b4ed45 06emc2 10docs/src/Submakefile * checklinks fixup
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[19:09:53] <skunkworks_> omg - mach4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_lwomykhDE
[19:15:47] <seb_kuzminsky> ermagerd
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[19:21:17] <skunkworks_> exactly!
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[19:31:06] <andypugh> Well, it appears functional.
[19:33:24] <kwallace> I saw these on NOVA Drone documentary last night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQIMGV5vtd4 . There must be some on-board real time going on there somewhere.
[19:36:44] <andypugh> I think it is all taking place offboard
[19:37:32] <skunkworks_> there are a lot of cameras around the room also...
[19:38:10] <kwallace> The documentary mentioned that there was some heavy duty imaging going on too.
[19:39:23] <kwallace> Communications must be a problem with all of those motors running.
[19:39:58] <kwallace> I don't think they can do what they are doing.
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[19:51:02] <andypugh> Clearly witchcraft?
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[20:00:59] <kwallace> More details, but too much bandwidth for me to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ErEBkj_3PY
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[20:48:01] <PCW> andy: still not working but some problems found
[20:48:02] <PCW> 1. writelong lbp code wrong
[20:48:04] <PCW> (many LBP error messages wrong as well but not significant )
[20:48:05] <PCW> 2. write commit needs cookie handshake as well
[20:48:07] <PCW> 3. when erase block is skipped you need to skip the writes as well (increase scope of if empty)
[20:48:09] <PCW> 4. lbp write long address is just J
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[20:54:31] <PCW> (because the offset register already contains the block offset)
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[21:10:52] <andypugh> PCW: Let me try to get back into this. It's been about 2 weeks
[21:12:14] <PCW> Its pretty close I think
[21:12:15] <PCW> the writelong error is a copy--paste error
[21:13:38] <cradek> ubuntu now nags you for a contribution via paypal before you download the image
[21:14:10] <PCW> writedouble I should say
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[21:16:31] <PCW> some % of nags must work
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[21:26:51] <andypugh> The writedouble goof would have stopped things working quite handily!
[21:33:11] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: might be time to switch to mint. or debian...
[21:33:29] <cradek> yeah.
[21:34:42] <andypugh> PCW: Can you elaborate on points 3 and 4?
[21:36:30] <skunkworks_> cradek, what are you using now? freebsd?
[21:37:00] <cradek> I use freebsd for servers and lucid for desktops
[21:37:01] <seb_kuzminsky> i think he's using a pdp-11
[21:37:36] <skunkworks_> cp-m?
[21:37:36] <cradek> actually right now all my running hardware is no more than a generation or two old
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[21:40:59] <PCW> point 3 the current code skips the erase of empty blocks but goes ahead and writes them with 0 in the flash
[21:41:56] <PCW> it should not touch the block at all
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[21:43:38] <PCW> point 4 only the offset into the individual write block is needed (J not P) since the offset register (via block_start) already has the erase block offset
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[21:46:55] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: thanks for doing thankless doc work!
[21:47:07] <andypugh> PCW: Perhaps I didn't send you the right patch?
http://codepad.org/GmzTGRLe
[21:47:25] <andypugh> I am using J, and I _think_ that the block skipping is right too.
[21:49:01] <PCW> No the one we had only skipped the erase on empty source file blocks and use P in the write double
[21:49:28] <andypugh> Does that codepad link look right?
[21:49:36] <PCW> did you check that write double used the correct constant?
[21:49:45] <andypugh> It does now :-)
[21:50:28] <PCW> yes the if empty block scope looks right now
[21:50:37] <PCW> and J
[21:50:53] <andypugh> Let me make a new patch and send it to you.
[21:51:06] <PCW> can you send me setserial.c instead of a patch?
[21:51:32] <PCW> easier to deal with
[21:51:49] <andypugh> OK
[21:58:03] <PCW> mhaberler pointed me to this when I complained about git, don't know if you've seen it
[21:58:04] <PCW> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDeG4S-mJts
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[22:28:46] <seb_kuzminsky> PCW: i used that video as the opener in a git class i taught to the devs in the company i work at :-)
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[22:49:32] <PCW> pretty funny
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[22:58:34] <seb_kuzminsky> the key to understanding git, i think, is to understand how it tracks files and directories and commits, and how branches relate to that
[22:59:01] <seb_kuzminsky> it's all really basic data structures, but if you don't have that mental model of what's happening, none of the git commands make sense
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[23:17:23] <PCW> andypugh now erasing/writing the correct area but all the data is 0
[23:17:55] <andypugh> Interesting.
[23:19:18] <PCW> I'll put a 'printf' on the writedouble to see what the butler saw
[23:19:46] <andypugh> Please, I can't really check here as there are no 8i20s to detect.
[23:20:21] <PCW> well you can break some other sserial remotes :-)
[23:20:43] <andypugh> Odd that it should detect non-blank blocks, but then write blank...
[23:20:59] <PCW> at least it doesnt break the setup area anymore
[23:21:50] <andypugh> The likely problem is that the memcpy isn't loading data properly.
[23:22:28] <andypugh> So an rtapi_printf on the data0 and data2 variables seems in order
[23:22:41] <andypugh> (Though I am sure I checked that)
[23:23:20] <PCW> look like the fw->data doesnt have the right offset in the write loop
[23:23:37] <andypugh> Ah. Errr, yes.
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