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[11:28:58] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05v2.5_branch 203e2c4 06emc2 10docs/man/man9/motion.9 10src/emc/motion/control.c 10src/emc/motion/mot_priv.h 10src/emc/motion/motion.c * motion: introduce motion.ferror-mode
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[12:02:41] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03TODO: deletor 05ferror-mode dafe9ea 06emc2 04. * branch deleted
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[14:53:39] <cradek> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Rockhopper_Web_Server
[15:00:11] <skunkworks> I saw that on the list.. Looks pretty cool. if a bit scary.. ;)
[15:00:19] <JT-Shop> yea
[15:01:45] <skunkworks> I think the graphic representation is pretty darn neat. I wonder what the K&T would look like ;)
[15:03:34] <cncbasher> loaded it up here too
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[15:18:48] <skunkworks> logger[mah],
[15:18:48] <logger[mah]> skunkworks: Log stored at http://linuxcnc.mah.priv.at/irc/%23linuxcnc-devel/2013-01-10.html
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[15:31:39] <IchGuckLive> Hi all
[15:32:20] <IchGuckLive> is it posible to set a Var (#110) in the ngc loaded Gcode by pyvcp bar
[15:34:24] <JT-Shop> whatcha working on?
[15:34:37] <IchGuckLive> you know it
[15:34:48] <IchGuckLive> jesus may have alked you 2
[15:34:56] <IchGuckLive> i got it wor k
[15:35:01] <IchGuckLive> i got it work
[15:35:34] <IchGuckLive> wait im making a quick video
[15:35:46] <JT-Shop> oh, yes he did
[15:36:01] <JT-Shop> what did you do to make it work?
[15:36:10] <IchGuckLive> pyvcp
[15:36:24] <IchGuckLive> and postprocessoriinteract
[15:36:55] <IchGuckLive> i think i will go for python calculation so it is just at linuxcnc
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[15:37:23] <IchGuckLive> based on linenumber old pos new pos
[15:37:26] <JT-Shop> cool, I though it was impossible so that warped my thinking
[15:38:26] <IchGuckLive> im searching for a idee to parse the bar value to the ngc
[15:39:58] <skunkworks> nothings imposible.. That is how I was thinking - pre-process the file - add a command between each corner that paused depending on the slider.. But that is how far I got.
[15:40:28] <IchGuckLive> yes
[15:40:38] <IchGuckLive> and in Halui
[15:41:09] <IchGuckLive> or better via M code userdifind
[15:42:18] <IchGuckLive> it is easy to pyvcp a mdi command
[15:42:28] <IchGuckLive> but how to get the value with it
[15:49:23] <JT-Shop> pass a parameter to the subroutine called by the MDI?
[15:49:44] <IchGuckLive> maybe
[15:50:00] <IchGuckLive> but it is the same
[15:50:23] <JT-Shop> yea I still don't know how that would work
[15:50:31] <IchGuckLive> then i can modify after Wire is at Temp also the #100 parameter direct trou python
[15:50:42] <JT-Shop> however you can do it with the python interface
[15:52:35] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/gui/gui01a.html
[15:52:43] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/gui/gui01b.html
[15:52:56] <JT-Shop> that one works along with Axis
[15:53:26] <IchGuckLive> uploading Vid
[15:53:31] <JT-Shop> ok
[15:54:00] <IchGuckLive> http://mechmo.de/jesus.mp4
[15:57:39] <IchGuckLive> JT ? did you see it
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[16:04:11] <IchGuckLive> what about the halcomand
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[16:13:48] <JT-Shop> looking now
[16:15:10] <IchGuckLive> get info mashine is stopping till Temp is up B)
[16:17:12] <IchGuckLive> JT-Shop: as long he is hidding all the infos about the mashines workflow its near imposible to help him
[16:17:47] <JT-Shop> actually skunkworks idea make sense to me now... open the file in axis through a preprocessor
[16:18:02] <JT-Shop> yea it is very hard to help when you don't know the details
[16:18:35] <IchGuckLive> first stteps are made one parameter to go and done
[16:24:09] <IchGuckLive> lets wait til chep pops up
[16:25:16] <JT-Shop> and the big problem is he wants to vary it on the fly!
[16:25:43] <JT-Shop> so that kills any ideas of preprocessing
[16:26:08] <IchGuckLive> if we can interact the parameter its bean always frech read on the parameter pass reading
[16:26:18] <IchGuckLive> so this is it
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[18:02:09] <IchGuckLive> jepler: are you online ?
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[21:30:33] <cradek> mhaberler: I shared some thoughts about your patch on emc-developers. not sure if you saw.
[21:30:46] <mhaberler> yes I did
[21:31:11] <mhaberler> I firmed up the man page failing to find a better pin name
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[21:34:06] <cradek> I sympathize that it might look like bike-shed-painting but those pins are permanent fixtures and it might have merited a bit of discussion if you needed help finding a good name.
[21:34:23] <cradek> I guess it's not too late until the next 2.5.x is released
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[21:35:13] <mhaberler> while I do not care about the pin name, I would really wish we could discuss more fundamental issues of the linuxcnc project with the same attention to detail
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[21:38:06] <cradek> noted
[21:38:54] <L84Supper> the return of mhaberler!
[21:39:02] <mhaberler> not yet
[21:39:15] <mhaberler> cradek: appreciated
[21:39:18] <L84Supper> just when memleak gets time you disappear :)
[21:39:25] <L84Supper> when will you be back??
[21:39:42] <mhaberler> saturday I think, modulo weather
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[21:48:31] <andypugh> Am I right that tool-tip position isn't available to HAL?
[21:49:29] <mhaberler> you have commanded postion, and offset
[21:55:15] <cradek> andypugh: I think halui has pins that represent anything you can see in the guis, including relative world position
[21:55:47] <cradek> andypugh: but if you mean from motion, then I think the answer is no, you only have commanded joint positions
[21:55:50] <andypugh> it has relative position, but that excludes tool length offset.
[21:56:02] <cradek> it = halui?
[21:56:49] <andypugh> halui.axis.N.pos-relative
[21:57:25] <cradek> *(halui_data->axis_pos_relative[3]) = emcStatus->motion.traj.actualPosition.a - emcStatus->task.g5x_offset.a - emcStatus->task.g92_offset.a;
[21:57:28] <cradek> you are right
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[21:57:31] <cradek> it is probably a bug
[21:57:39] <andypugh> It feels like one
[21:58:27] <cradek> TLO is available too separately, but I think it should be part of relative, because that's how the rest of the guis present relative position
[21:59:21] <andypugh> Aye, I am using the halui.tool.length_offset.x pin, but doesn't feel like the way it should be.
[22:01:59] <andypugh> Googling brings up a complaint that it is actually feedback position rather than command position too.
[22:02:15] <andypugh> (actualPosition not commandPosition)
[22:02:47] <cradek> yeah in the guis you can pick any of the 4 combinations of command/feedback vs offset/unoffset
[22:02:53] <mhaberler> a correct ferror might be your friend at this pont;)
[22:02:56] <cradek> there are 3 in halui, one broken
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[22:04:16] <andypugh> If I mention fixing it to add tool offsets then mah will remind me that I am meant to be looking at the tooltable, won't he?
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[22:05:07] <cradek> I guess you could add the fourth set. (virtual) pins are cheap. but too bad about how the names would either have to be inconsistent or break everyone's existing configs.
[22:05:38] <andypugh> I doubt that the pins are in particularly wide use.
[22:06:20] <mhaberler> at some point we have to review the owner/using aspects of information, and offsets are a prime candidate
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[22:06:42] <skunkworks> halui though isn't realtime - correct?
[22:06:52] <mhaberler> no
[22:07:08] <mhaberler> good enough for gui
[22:07:28] <skunkworks> Right - I didn't know what andy was using it for...
[22:13:42] <andypugh> I am using it for realtime, but I think I will get away with it.
[22:14:17] <skunkworks> heh
[22:14:19] <andypugh> I need the current working diameter to calculate the offsets for boring a polygon. But the diameter won't change during a cut.
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