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[00:17:14] <CIA-51> 03tissf 07v2.5_branch * r5338f2732495 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): French doc: update and cleaning
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[00:51:54] <dgarr> for 2.5 consideration: http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/0001-new-special-comment-AXIS-notify-message.patch
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[01:04:21] <jepler> I'm not sure of the utility of notify-without-message, can you tell me a little bit more about that?
[01:05:42] <dgarr> mainly it handles someone omitting the comment part so i wanted something useful displayed
[01:07:31] <jepler> the other thing htis makes me consider is: what if (debug, ...) was displayed during preview generation?
[01:08:19] <dgarr> i didnt know how to do that (display debug during preview)
[01:13:13] <jepler> apparently those are passed to 'def message'
[01:13:22] <jepler> so if we wanted to go that direction, http://emergent.unpythonic.net/files/sandbox/0001-Axis-print-messages-generated-by-preview.patch
[01:15:43] <dgarr> that would be fine with me
[01:16:06] <jepler> I wonder if many people have programs that would spew a lot during preview with this
[01:16:26] <jepler> for instance, I place a (message,...) before each manual toolchange
[01:16:49] <jepler> on the other hand, maybe that's a good reminder of what tools to prepare that I would be happy to have
[01:21:57] <dgarr> i tried some of my examples, and find it would be annoying after a while to have to clear messages from [Preview]
[01:24:19] <jepler> I am willing to believe you're right
[01:24:45] <jepler> now I'm thinking about touch off, for example
[01:24:51] <jepler> you'd get another copy for each axis to touch off
[01:27:03] <jepler> while you're here, I noticed I still have this in my own tree but apparently didn't push it yet: pickconfig.tcl: handle reselecting existing config
[01:27:50] <dgarr> commit 2a4efd46429141c327
[01:27:52] <jepler> this is the version which checks [file exists $copydir] before [file mkdir], is that what we decided was the right way to go about it?
[01:27:56] <jepler> er, hm
[01:29:26] <jepler> oh, I'm on master and that commit's not merged in yet.
[01:29:26] <jepler> ok
[01:31:26] <CIA-51> 03jepler 07master * rca309df7db6a 10/src/emc/motion/control.c: motion: only declare variables if they're used
[01:31:26] <CIA-51> 03jepler 07master * ra0cd637475f5 10/src/emc/usr_intf/schedrmt.cc: schedrmt: print error in case of failed syscall
[01:31:28] <CIA-51> 03jepler 07master * r6875321575f3 10/src/hal/classicladder/drawing_sequential.c: ladder: remove unused variable
[01:31:30] <CIA-51> 03jepler 07master * r78a3f3eef877 10/src/hal/utils/halrmt.c: halrmt: print error in case of failed syscall
[01:31:30] <CIA-51> 03jepler 07master * rc5874737667a 10/src/libnml/ (cms/cms_srv.cc os_intf/_sem.c): libnml: remove unused variables
[01:31:31] <CIA-51> 03jepler 07master * r962847c93fbf 10/src/emc/usr_intf/axis/extensions/togl.c: togl: remove unused code related to eps export
[01:32:44] <CIA-51> 03jepler 07v2.5_branch * rc3b2b0de1462 10/scripts/linuxcnc.in: runscript: branding
[01:32:45] <CIA-51> 03jepler 07v2.5_branch * r2b7793c4394a 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): new special comment: (AXIS,notify,message)
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[01:33:46] <jepler> dgarr: thanks and have a good evening
[01:34:01] <dgarr> thank you, gnight
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[01:38:13] <jepler> cradek: I'm excited to see you talking about a linuxcnc 2.5 date
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[02:37:05] <cradek> me too!
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[11:09:37] <CIA-51> 03tissf 07v2.5_branch * raf2c52997cd8 10/docs/src/gcode/m-code_fr.txt: French doc: cleaning
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[12:43:12] <jepler> what is "usrmot" anyway?
[12:43:27] <jepler> 5axis/5axis.ini:# DISPLAY = usrmot
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[12:59:33] <jepler> or more to the point .. does it work anymore?
[12:59:39] <jepler> motion> 0 0 0
[12:59:39] <jepler> Internal error: unhandled motion type 0
[12:59:46] <jepler> and then realtime crashes
[12:59:53] <jepler> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[12:59:53] <jepler> 0xb74cc396 in emcmotSetRotaryUnlock (axis=0, unlock=1) at emc/motion/command.c:291
[12:59:57] <jepler> 291 *(emcmot_hal_data->joint[axis].unlock) = unlock;
[13:01:34] <mhaberler> DISPLAY? I though this is the userland part of motion driving motion with nml messages (usrmotinf.cc I think)
[13:02:44] <jepler> it appears to be an interactive program that sends commands to the realtime motion controller, sort of like task
[13:02:47] <cradek> yeah I think it was supposed to be a way to generate emcmot messages directly
[13:03:01] <jepler> but I think it's pretty well bitrotted by now
[13:04:46] <mhaberler> I wonder why nobody ever did a python NML binding - many of these c whales like emcsh, emcrsh, halrmt could just be simple python programs; possibly also usrmot
[13:05:51] <jepler> that's what the good old "linuxcnc" module is, except that it only wraps messages relevant to a user interface
[13:06:10] <mhaberler> well yes, just a subset
[13:08:46] <cradek> usrmot is probably more out of date than even sai
[13:11:03] <mhaberler> what specifically do you mean with sai ?
[13:11:17] <cradek> standalone interp that we use for the run tests
[13:11:36] <jepler> that's at least up to date enough to run the tests we want
[13:11:42] <mhaberler> well yes. I meant - what do you think is out of date - the saicanon layer?
[13:11:57] <mhaberler> the rest is the normal interpreter - same shlib
[13:12:01] <cradek> jepler: or we've only written tests it will run
[13:12:30] <jepler> cradek: do you recall if locking rotaries are in 2.4?
[13:13:07] <cradek> mhaberler: yes specifically the two files in the sai directory
[13:13:24] <jepler> bbl
[13:14:06] <cradek> jepler: Follows: v2.4.1, v2.5.0-pre0
[13:14:06] <jepler> but before I go: the place that using usrmot crashes motion is regarding rotary axes
[13:14:20] <cradek> oh wait
[13:14:25] <cradek> Precedes: v2.5.0-pre1
[13:14:27] <cradek> duh
[13:15:04] <mhaberler> well driver.cc is ridiculous and due for a scratch rewrite; I've done some loose ends like inifile support and readline but its not worth it really
[13:15:39] <cradek> bbl
[13:16:08] <mhaberler> saicanon: that I am adressing - I'm working on the refactor project again and canon will look different, including sai
[13:16:09] <mhaberler> cu
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[13:33:59] <skunkworks> Yay - on 2.5!
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[14:42:13] <jepler> on looking further, I bet usrmot broke (became unable to issue any motion) before v2.4.0-pre1, when is_feed_type was added
[14:42:37] <jepler> or at any rate it would have printed each time: Internal error: unhandled motion type 0
[14:43:34] <jepler> I think we should mark usrmot as "deprecated and thought not to work anyway" in 2.5 and remove it in master sometime before the next feature release
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[14:44:21] <jepler> I doubt there's ever been a user of it in modern times
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[14:57:25] <cradek> that's fine with me, if you're asking my opinion
[14:58:13] <cradek> but did your segfault point to some problem in motion itself?
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[15:00:56] <jepler> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[15:00:56] <jepler> 0xb757e396 in emcmotSetRotaryUnlock (axis=0, unlock=0) at emc/motion/command.c:291
[15:01:00] <jepler> 291 *(emcmot_hal_data->joint[axis].unlock) = unlock;
[15:01:11] <jepler> somehow we reach this line, but .unlock is NULL
[15:01:18] <jepler> up
[15:01:20] <jepler> oops
[15:01:32] <jepler> #0 0xb757e396 in emcmotSetRotaryUnlock (axis=0, unlock=0) at emc/motion/command.c:291
[15:01:36] <jepler> #1 0xb7579d01 in tpSetRotaryUnlock (tp=0xb72f3fb4, period=1000000) at emc/kinematics/tp.c:642
[15:01:39] <jepler> #2 tpRunCycle (tp=0xb72f3fb4, period=1000000) at emc/kinematics/tp.c:711
[15:01:55] <cradek> I think ....unlock is a pin
[15:02:03] <jepler> so the code might be in some sense improved if there was a NULL pointer check here, or maybe the trust between task and motion is enough
[15:02:13] <jepler> i.e., the bug is in usrmot for sending an invalid message to motion
[15:02:17] <cradek> axis=0 doesn't have that pin
[15:02:36] <jepler> yes, it's a hal_bit_t* but the associated pin is uncreated
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[15:03:18] <cradek> I'm happy enough now that I know it's not something weird
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[15:03:46] <jepler> if(tc->indexrotary != -1) {
[15:04:21] <jepler> usrmot is sending 0 (an invalid value in light of the inifile) here
[15:04:36] <cradek> ok
[15:04:46] <cradek> so deleting usrmot will fix this problem!
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[16:15:16] <tissf> hi all
[16:22:00] <GoSebGo> Good morning(?) tissf
[16:23:02] <GoSebGo> Did you see cradek's announcement? Are your docs ready to release?
[16:24:49] <tissf> no I have not seen any announcement cradek?
[16:25:33] <tissf> where has he made ‚Äč‚Äčthis announcement?
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[16:27:36] <jepler> http://mid.gmane.org/20120314185926.GO51067@timeguy.com
[16:27:44] <tissf> the french doc is better than ever, but it will never be completed. :) I'm ready for release.
[16:28:30] <tissf> Thanks jeppler
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[16:32:16] <awallin> this is the first "linuxcnc" release?
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[16:45:40] <GoSebGo> Tissf: great! & thanks for all your work on the docs :-)
[16:45:48] <GoSebGo> awallin: yes
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[17:05:56] <awallin> is the release-process documented somewhere? is the latest git/master just tagged 2.5 at some point and that is that ?
[17:06:26] <jepler> awallin: yes, it will be the first release where for instance the launching command and the ubuntu/debian package name are "linuxcnc"
[17:06:27] <cradek> no, we've had a 2.5 branch for ages
[17:06:41] <cradek> it has been stabilizing
[17:09:03] <awallin> oh, ok. so any comments/fixes to that branch then?
[17:09:29] <cradek> yes bugfixes go there
[17:09:39] <cradek> v2.5_branch merges into master
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