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[02:10:18] <tom3p> hello, i am playing with a graph tool that i hope can be used with hal.
[02:10:26] <tom3p> http://imagebin.org/190916
[02:10:27] <tom3p> I can find some of the code that describes the widgets but wonder if theres any tips to inspecting a hal program to find out which functions are being used for the digraph?
[02:11:43] <tom3p> the actual app is a simulation of plant growth by the french group at Inria , the app is 'OpenAlea'
[02:11:44] <andypugh> This has been revisited and revisited. Are you on the users and dev mailing lists?
[02:12:18] <tom3p> yes i suspect i am at the root of that revisiation and author of some of the posted tools
[02:12:32] <andypugh> There is a danger of reinventing the wheel.
[02:12:49] <andypugh> OK :-)
[02:13:01] <tom3p> i try to use existing open source tools mystelf ( see the gEDA tools i've posted )
[02:13:17] <andypugh> I do lose track of who said what, and when
[02:14:22] <andypugh> There was a good-looking one a few months ago, but that might well have been gEDA
[02:14:34] <tom3p> np, how might i trac what code does the gui bit? i found that the code automatically generates gui representations from attached libraries.
[02:14:56] <tom3p> gEDA pretty ugly, tcltk ish this is very Mac-ish
[02:15:20] <andypugh> There was a pretty one
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[02:16:31] <tom3p> haha i just tried to do a screen video and was on the screenshot
[02:16:41] <tom3p> so no buttons were real
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[02:18:57] <andypugh> Ah, I was thinking of the guy who used Graphviz...
http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/component/kunena/?func=view&catid=24&id=14592
[02:21:57] <tom3p> right, graphviz is a good tool also. every existing tool seems to have different gotchas. ( i used dotty & graphviz also, never got readHal() writeScene() to do what i wanted)
[02:23:39] <tom3p> what i posted about VisuAlea/OpenAlea seems to have some hope tho. It has typed inputs, directed graphs ( ins outs not just connections ) and svg output that is zoomable and sub-functions ( like sub-circuits )
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[02:24:14] <andypugh> Sounds good
[02:24:27] <tom3p> so i'd like to inspect more but wondered if there were some hints on how to trace calls thru the code body
[02:24:40] <tom3p> its fairly large, but all text as its all python
[02:26:23] <andypugh> If it's userpace, set breakpoints and single-step
[02:29:24] <tom3p> hmmm, i didnt thin id be examining data, i wanted to now what created the box, the label, the colored ports, and kept the connected as i added, removed and connected nets ( nodes and edges in graph speek )
[02:29:31] <tom3p> i'm posting a video now
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[02:32:04] <tom3p> http://videobin.org/+5fq/5vb.html
[02:33:04] <tom3p> dotty and visgraph are static png/svg output, and cannot be hoovered over to discover content
[02:35:18] <andypugh> Yes, that does look rather promising.
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[02:39:17] <tom3p> thx, i have difficulty forming the question... 'how do i hack out the part i want' is ambiguos
[02:40:41] <tom3p> i just saw that some of the developers were maing recommendations to the blender crew for blenders upcoming visual programming language
[02:41:31] <tom3p> i get lost in graph speak ( hal nets are graph edges, hal components are graph nodes )
[02:51:42] <tom3p> ok, thx all
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[02:56:13] <PCW> tom3p that graph is neat I was just asking Chris Morley what he though about "hints" for connecting
[02:56:14] <PCW> standard subsystems(like a PID loop) without having to chose from every darn signal
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[14:06:28] <CIA-10> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * rd7ad2a514939 10/docs/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Docs: fix typos and clean up descriptions
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