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[00:09:57] <CIA-24> EMC: 03tissf 07v2.5_branch * re2335ddf7a20 10/docs/src/ (9 files in 4 dirs): French docs - fine tuning
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[00:10:01] <CIA-24> EMC: 03tissf 07v2.5_branch * r33c84be11062 10/docs/src/ (9 files in 4 dirs): French docs - fine tuning - update - added some images thanks mbailif
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[00:13:01] <CIA-24> EMC: 03tissf 07v2.5_branch * rc13bc23a78b6 10/docs/src/common/images/ (7 files): French docs - fine tuning - update - added some images thanks mbailif
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[03:17:48] <seb_kuzminsky> putting another 16 GB of ram into the buildbot :-)
[03:18:05] <seb_kuzminsky> ubuntu 12.04 sim packages coming soon :-)
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[03:23:24] <seb_kuzminsky> wow, i just got annoyed that it's taking like, minutes and minutes to back up a cluster of 12 (or so) virtual machines
[03:23:29] <seb_kuzminsky> first world problem :-)
[03:24:33] <seb_kuzminsky> what shall we do while we wait? let's watch a youtube video of a machine that makes chicken wire! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZnU6JlhshU
[03:25:20] <seb_kuzminsky> it sounds like the music i used to listen to in college
[03:41:52] <cradek> that's really cool, but it's soooo slow
[03:47:05] <seb_kuzminsky> one day i want a cnc machine with motors like this: http://www.mrc-mbu.cam.ac.uk/research/atp-synthase
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[04:12:14] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: you'd like it to be faster so you could dance to it?
[04:12:24] <seb_kuzminsky> yay, it's back with 32 gb
[04:13:09] <seb_kuzminsky> hm, dimm geometry mismatch, that does not sound good
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[04:16:23] <seb_kuzminsky> oh, right, i got the non-ecc dimms because i'm a cheap bastard
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[04:19:08] <seb_kuzminsky> rockin
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[04:25:03] <seb_> hm, i'm going to need more disk at some point too...
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[05:35:19] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, the first precise sim packages are building now
[05:35:26] <seb_kuzminsky> it probably won't work ;-)
[05:35:31] <seb_kuzminsky> i'll check it in the morning
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[12:12:58] <CIA-24> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * rea23d93dcd21 10/docs/src/common/ (Updating_EMC_de.txt Updating_EMC_es.txt Updating_EMC_pl.txt): Docs: markup fixes
[12:12:59] <CIA-24> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * rb26cc00bf298 10/docs/src/quickstart/ (3 files): Docs: markup fixes
[12:13:00] <CIA-24> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * rb36f8a0078bd 10/docs/src/config/ (stepconf.txt stepconf_de.txt stepconf_es.txt stepconf_pl.txt): Docs: markup fixes and temp latex max fix
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[12:46:27] <tissf> hi all
[12:47:00] <jthornton> Hi Francis
[12:48:21] <tissf> John, look on your last commit on gitweb, you can see an \feff tab
[12:48:43] <tissf> on multiple files
[12:48:58] <jthornton> what is an \feff tab?
[12:49:20] <tissf> an hidden tag
[12:49:24] <tissf> removes these tags
[12:49:57] <tissf> it interferes with the proper functioning of ID
[12:50:16] <tissf> tab = tag sorry
[12:50:53] <tissf> http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=emc2.git;a=commitdiff;h=b36f8a0078bd80692cbbbe752da92a9ef12ad6e5
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[12:51:55] <jthornton> ouch I don't see the tag in gedit
[12:52:01] <tissf> they are at the beginning of the file
[12:52:19] <tissf> yes totaly hidden...
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[12:54:06] <jthornton> how do I get rid of them?
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[12:56:37] <tissf> with the mouse, cut the first line of the file, and then retype the line by hand
[12:56:51] <tissf> without paste
[12:57:24] <tissf> is the solution I've found
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[12:58:11] <tissf> I do not know where do these tags?
[12:59:15] <tissf> Luckily there is just the tag: lang: on this line
[13:00:49] <tissf> I hope it will help
[13:01:34] <jthornton> ok thanks
[13:03:02] <tissf> John, why did you renamed main.txt -> gcode.txt?
[13:03:43] <jthornton> that should have been the name all along, I think long long ago it was one of a few docs
[13:04:39] <tissf> ok thanks
[13:06:07] <jthornton> any idea how the \feff tag got there?
[13:08:16] <jthornton> I see the tag in git gui now being removed
[13:08:19] <tissf> no idea, perhaps a remainder of lyx? but I have no certainty.
[13:09:10] <jthornton> that could be
[13:09:28] <jthornton> I'll keep an eye out for it, thanks
[13:10:10] <CIA-24> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r58632dd2feed 10/docs/src/config/ (stepconf.txt stepconf_de.txt stepconf_es.txt stepconf_pl.txt): Docs: remove strange tag \feff
[13:10:11] <CIA-24> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r55aed7932ee4 10/docs/src/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Docs: markup fixes
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[13:12:04] <tissf> John, the file User_Concepts.txt he always been in /common/ directory?
[13:12:44] <tissf> I would pull through /gcode/
[13:12:54] <jthornton> yes, that is a doc I created
[13:13:03] <jthornton> that make sense
[13:14:13] <tissf> many links are broken in /common/
[13:14:47] <jthornton> in the pdf's or the html?
[13:15:15] <tissf> two
[13:17:38] <jthornton> which file has broken links?
[13:19:41] <tissf> op op op sorry I was wrong, it Machining_Center.txt
[13:21:02] <tissf> in the user manual is the only file with links, which is in /common/ directory
[13:21:57] <tissf> thus, we can not put links to it, from main.txt
[13:22:08] <jthornton> ok, I see the broken links now
[13:22:17] <jthornton> I must have missed them
[13:22:28] <tissf> not the same base directory
[13:24:00] <tissf> I speak of course for _fr files but the problem must be the same for other languages
[13:25:32] <jthornton> I'll be back in a short bit and check it out brb
[13:26:36] <tissf> I will try to transfer it, I do not think there is a lot of work. ok read you later
[13:43:08] <jthornton> it should be easy to move
[13:47:10] <jthornton> Francis the links are broken because they call sub not sec
[14:05:43] <tissf> argh !! yes thanks
[14:06:23] <JT-Shop> looks like a created a few of them :/
[14:10:11] <tissf> quickly fixed
[14:21:41] <jthornton> did you see how Michael had moved the parameter info to the G Code Overview in master?
[14:22:53] <jthornton> the current location is not very intuitive and I can never find it when I need it
[14:26:48] <tissf> I have not figured out how to walk sec: cha: sub: I test if it works it's good if it does not work I change.
[14:27:00] <tissf> etc
[14:28:04] <tissf> I try to combine all the files of the same master in the same directory, it makes more sense.
[14:28:50] <tissf> asciidoc is restrictive with links
[14:30:03] <jthornton> I use grep when I have a cross reference error to find the offending file and most should be cha: or sec: IMHO
[14:34:14] <jthornton> I use make >> /home/john/Desktop/make.txt 2>&1 then search for error and warning in the text file
[14:34:34] <tissf> I have no problem with the links, but to create new
[14:35:02] <tissf> Sometimes it works, other times not
[14:35:30] <tissf> I do not understand why
[14:37:45] <tissf> need a make clean?
[14:38:35] <jthornton> might need make clean, I know you do if you add anything
[14:39:41] <tissf> ah ok
[14:40:46] <tissf> I use to your grep m├ęthode :) you tell me there are two years
[14:41:41] <tissf> method
[14:48:40] <tissf> I think the gcode file was too cut. There are several times the same things in multiple files. Should merge all of this for future EMC2 versions. What do you think?
[14:50:37] <tissf> I never know where to look for information.
[14:50:39] <jthornton> yes, I agree there is still some scattered out things and some things repeated
[14:53:39] <jthornton> I have added some formatting info to the README file for asciidoc but now think a separate file asciidoc-markup.txt is needed as the README is getting too crowded now
[14:56:04] <tissf> it will go for v2.5 after.. :)
[14:57:24] <tissf> but it is a good idea to create a file for formatting info for asciidoc
[14:58:33] <tissf> if you can explain how to walk sec: sub: cha: etc.. I'm interested
[14:59:30] <tissf> I found nothing in the cheat sheet
[15:00:06] <jthornton> I don't understand what you mean by walk
[15:07:43] <tissf> walk = works
[15:08:28] <tissf> google is even worse than me ..
[15:10:10] <tissf> John I reassure you my French is good. :-)
[15:10:47] <JT-Shop> better than my French, I can only order 3 eggs please in French :)
[15:11:35] <JT-Shop> cha: sec: sub: only apply to the PDF's and determine their display level in the sidebar index mostly
[15:12:24] <JT-Shop> I try and avoid long names and too many subs so navigation is faster in the PDF's
[15:12:36] <tissf> ah ok thanks
[15:15:59] <tissf> do not forget to order three beers with your 3 eggs
[15:23:01] <tissf> Here comes a storm
[15:23:14] <JT-Shop> been raining all day here
[15:23:42] <tissf> 260km / h in Northern Ireland
[15:24:16] <tissf> planned 150km/h here
[15:24:32] <tissf> !
[15:25:08] <tissf> it is unusual for the region
[15:25:47] <alex_joni> beer? that's the advice from a french guy?
[15:25:50] <alex_joni> hi tissf ;)
[15:26:13] <tissf> hi alex, happy to read you
[15:26:31] <alex_joni> likewise, and I'm even more happy to see you're still on french docs
[15:26:52] <alex_joni> tissf: since we're talking now, I recently changed the linuxcnc.org website software
[15:27:01] <alex_joni> can you check that the french version is still ok?
[15:27:16] <alex_joni> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/french
[15:27:28] <tissf> ok
[15:27:51] <alex_joni> tissf: when you've got time, it's not urgent
[15:28:02] <alex_joni> just write me a message, I'll eventually read it :)
[15:30:24] <tissf> ok no problem
[15:30:55] <alex_joni> bbl..
[15:31:42] <tissf> good luck
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[16:06:40] <tissf> john The documentation is improving well, all of the files is now translated in French.
[16:07:11] <tissf> bbl
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[16:12:03] <jthornton> Francis great! I have a bit more to do yet :/
[16:25:06] <tissf> I will merge the three files machining_center_fr, main_fr, overview_fr for a single file containing all the documentation of the g-code. The current fragmentation makes reading difficult, especially for a beginner.
[16:25:27] <jthornton> sounds good to me
[16:25:47] <tissf> fine
[16:26:21] <tissf> I'm glad you're with me:)
[16:26:52] <jthornton> I'm glad your with me too :)
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[17:11:32] <GoSebGo> Packages for Precise Pangolin (ubuntu 12.04) are now available from the buildbot (sim only)
[17:13:21] <cradek> yay!
[17:18:32] <GoSebGo> 2.5 builds on precise, i bet master needs a merge & 2.4 needs a cherrypick or something.... I'll look into that tomorrow
[17:18:55] <skunkworks> lts is out?
[17:19:15] <GoSebGo> The alpha came out dec 1
[17:19:20] <skunkworks> ah
[17:19:32] <skunkworks> cool
[17:20:11] <GoSebGo> Mozmck was talking about doing the rtai kernel again
[17:22:47] <skunkworks> yay
[17:22:53] <skunkworks> that is another thankless job
[17:23:19] <GoSebGo> Aren't they all ;-)
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[17:27:13] <skunkworks> heh
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[17:38:10] <cradek> GoSebGo: be very conservative with 2.4. I would run any change by jepler.
[17:38:37] <cradek> (thankless is right!)
[17:39:50] <GoSebGo> cradek: good thinking, i'll post a branch for him to review
[17:43:26] <GoSebGo> 2.4 has the old lyx docs, i wonder how that will work in precise...
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[17:44:04] <cradek> probably won't
[17:44:23] <cradek> fixing 2.4 for 12 is probably not an important goal is it?
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[17:52:44] <GoSebGo> If 2.5 is ready before april i guess 2.4 wont be needed
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[17:58:32] <GoSebGo> Tho having all live branches build on all supported diatros makes the buildbot internals simpler
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