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[00:00:45] <tissf> I hope buildbot's happy
[00:00:58] <jthornton> LOL me too
[00:01:10] <jthornton> your up late Francis :)
[00:02:05] <tissf> my eyes close
[00:02:35] <tissf> bedtime here
[00:02:46] <jthornton> good night Francis
[00:03:11] <tissf> good night to John
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[13:18:49] <CIA-95> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r5952a79dda59 10/docs/src/common/Getting_EMC.txt: Docs: remove outdated info
[13:19:40] <CIA-95> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * rf6a4bfefe9e3 10/docs/src/ (Getting_Started.txt config/pncconf.txt): Docs: shorten chapter title
[13:19:45] <CIA-95> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * re267abe3d304 10/docs/src/quickstart/stepper_quickstart.txt: Docs: updates
[13:19:51] <CIA-95> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r03ec75ef8695 10/docs/src/common/Updating_EMC.txt: Docs: update upgrading
[13:19:52] <CIA-95> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * rcb0f5cbb4281 10/docs/src/config/images/copy-configuration.png: Docs: delete outdated screen capture
[13:19:53] <CIA-95> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * rc72dd631a459 10/docs/src/config/ (29 files in 2 dirs): Docs: update screen captures
[13:24:47] <tissf> good morning John
[13:24:52] <CIA-95> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * ra93a9ee6488a 10/docs/src/common/Updating_EMC.txt: Docs: fix typo
[13:25:00] <jthornton> good morning Francis
[13:25:19] <jthornton> I just broke the docs :/ but will have it fixed in a few minutes
[13:26:11] <tissf> early morning you are
[13:26:45] <tissf> Can you remember your city?
[13:27:17] <jthornton> yes, I usually am up by 5am
[13:27:24] <tissf> I think it's in Kentucky
[13:27:31] <jthornton> Poplar Bluff, Missouri
[13:27:35] <tissf> 5am wow
[13:28:45] <tissf> google tel 07:28 am for Poplar Bluff
[13:29:31] <jthornton> yep
[13:30:17] <jthornton> I'm updating screen captures atm
[13:32:28] <tissf> fine
[13:33:00] <tissf> using pngnq?
[13:33:01] <jthornton> I got the submakefile to remove the rest of the html generated docs left in the /html directory
[13:33:13] <jthornton> what is that?
[13:34:10] <jthornton> looking at it now
[13:35:25] <tissf> take a look The Web site: http://pngnq.sourceforge.net/
[13:35:33] <jthornton> ok
[13:36:02] <tissf> compactor without loss
[13:37:12] <tissf> only for png, it reduces the image by 75%
[13:38:07] <jthornton> how is the image quality in the pdf and html after reducing it?
[13:40:32] <tissf> juste fine without loss
[13:41:02] <tissf> read the mail from Baillifard marc-Andre on emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
[13:41:45] <tissf> yesterday
[13:42:37] <jthornton> yes, I saw that very quickly
[13:44:35] <jthornton> I wonder if it is worth the extra work to try and compress the png images
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[13:58:40] <tissf> is 50% to 60%, not 75%
[14:01:08] <tissf> the directory /gui/images decreases from 2.6Mo to 960ko
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[14:03:24] <CIA-95> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * rf93ef5105a67 10/docs/src/config/ (7 files): Docs: update image change
[14:03:51] * jthornton wonders if I fixed it before buildbot noticed it was broken
[14:04:55] <jthornton> ugh, stepconf has a bug when configuring a lathe
[14:06:20] <jthornton> breakfast time here
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[14:25:30] <jthornton> found the bug already
[14:29:16] <tissf> what's it?
[14:29:47] <jthornton> if you select the lathe mode in stepconf it uses the y axis to calculate max velocity
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[14:30:32] <awallin> does stepconf actually generate more or less support-requests on the forum/mailinglist? I would think having a clue about INI and HAL files would be beneficial for most newbies...
[14:32:48] <jthornton> more or less than what?
[14:32:57] <tissf> awallin: can you tell us more?
[14:33:01] <jthornton> I don't follow the mailing list very close
[14:33:53] <awallin> tissf: hah :) just wondering out loud... if this wizard creates all the INI and HAL for a new user then he will learn nothing about INI/HAL
[14:34:26] <cradek> you are correct
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[14:35:22] <tissf> if it is curious, he will then read the details
[14:35:43] <awallin> .. and then the whole emc2 gets bad rep for bugs in stepconf :)
[14:36:06] <jthornton> I think many will modify their configs after stepconf is done
[14:37:34] <jthornton> I have actually just fixed that bug in stepconf and am waiting for make to confirm I didn't make a mistake
[14:37:52] <micges> here afaik half of emc2 users know ini/hal very well and half make basic configuration with stepconf and if machine runs they don't search much more info
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[14:38:15] <jthornton> yea, if it is not broken don't fix it
[14:38:49] <tissf> I do not agree with you Micges
[14:39:24] <SWPadnos> jthornton, stepconf is python, you shouldn't have to rebuild to test it :)
[14:39:36] <jthornton> I'm just being sure :)
[14:39:39] <tissf> when the machine is already running, it's easier to improve
[14:40:23] * jthornton heads to the shop to start a fire
[14:40:50] <micges> yes, first half of users is improving, that's why they learned so much :)
[14:41:41] <tissf> micges: yes :)
[14:42:25] <micges> but it's opinion only from info about users on forums, chats etc. I think at least 1/2 of emc2 users never showed up publically
[14:43:43] <tissf> yes I think so too, many work for themselves
[14:46:42] <tissf> jthornton: after make clean all's fine
[14:48:31] <JT-Shop> good
[14:55:13] <jthornton> SWPadnos: I did need to build as I had done a make clean before working on stepconf.py
[14:55:45] <SWPadnos> hmm. I didn't know that stepconf.py used any compiled modules
[14:57:01] <jthornton> don't you have to build and setuid then emc-environment?
[14:57:31] <SWPadnos> I'm not sure, to tell the truth
[14:57:45] <jthornton> I do it just to be sure
[14:58:22] <SWPadnos> I wouldn't think so (at least not setuid), but since the test axis function does need to load kernel modules, maybe it is needed
[14:58:44] <jthornton> yea that fixed the bug
[15:07:54] <CIA-95> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r9357bfda64b0 10/src/emc/usr_intf/stepconf/stepconf.py: Stepconf: fix max velocity bug for lathe config
[15:09:34] <cncbasher> jthornton> any chance that same bug may have crept into pncconf
[15:10:22] <jthornton> dunno it is a totally different program from the ground up
[15:10:55] <jthornton> I would think not after a short bit of thought on how it works
[15:11:35] <cncbasher> yea i'd agree too
[15:12:24] <micges> looking at source code there is the same bug
[15:12:42] <jthornton> in pncconf?
[15:13:02] <micges> yes, line 1482
[15:13:22] <micges> seems very same part of code
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[15:13:27] <cncbasher> 2 bugs in one day !
[15:13:31] <jthornton> I'll email Chris about it
[15:14:17] <cncbasher> Chris may well have started pncconf with the same base to start with
[15:14:34] <micges> indeed
[15:15:20] <jthornton> I've sent him an e-mail on it
[15:16:20] <jthornton> yep, exactly the same bug!
[15:25:46] <micges> jthornton: building 2.5 with docs: ../docs/src/Submakefile:806: *** Required image file ../docs/src/config/images/stepconf-entry.png does not exist. Stop.
[15:26:21] <JT-Shop> did you do a make clean?
[15:27:12] <micges> hold on
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[15:28:20] <JT-Shop> holding on
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[15:40:45] <micges> JT-Shop: it's ok after make clean, sorry :)
[15:41:00] <JT-Shop> np, catches me often
[15:41:22] <JT-Shop> perhaps the error message should suggest a make clean
[15:47:54] <CIA-95> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r692fca6cf71b 10/docs/src/index_es.tmpl: Docs: fix typo
[15:47:55] <CIA-95> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r1ca207adb53b 10/docs/src/config/images/latency.png: Docs: update image
[15:53:44] <CIA-95> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r06205f5a763d 10/docs/src/config/stepconf.txt: Docs: make text match image
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[17:05:33] <CIA-95> EMC: 03tissf 07v2.5_branch * rb500eeb86689 10/docs/src/Master_Integrator_fr.txt: French docs update
[17:05:41] <CIA-95> EMC: 03tissf 07v2.5_branch * re836819512fe 10/docs/src/ (docs.xml index_fr.tmpl): French docs update
[17:05:41] <CIA-95> EMC: 03tissf 07v2.5_branch * r70e72974ccfd 10/src/po/fr.po: French docs update
[17:05:41] <CIA-95> EMC: 03tissf 07v2.5_branch * ree1de74ab0f0 10/docs/src/ (4 files in 3 dirs): French docs - removes redundant images
[17:05:52] <CIA-95> EMC: 03tissf 07v2.5_branch * r6b034e95ca0f 10/docs/src/install/ (5 files): docs update - make text match image
[17:26:55] <tissf> oups! I have to repair quickly..
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[17:45:18] <tissf> another make clean, sorry!
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[17:56:53] <IchGucksLive> Hi all i got G21 in the G-code for Metric but the unitcode holds G20 the initcode holds nothing
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[18:22:48] <IchGucksLive> is a MDI comment not passed to the parser ?
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[18:41:46] <cncbasher> nick001-shop> you need to open the sources list using administrator priviledges so use su or sudo etc
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[22:43:25] <CIA-24> EMC: 03tissf 07v2.5_branch * r41be620752fe 10/docs/src/ (common/Updating_EMC_fr.txt examples/pci_parallel_port_fr.txt): French docs update
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