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[00:20:50] <KimK> SWPadnos: I've been trying the Google translator you sent, almost since you sent it, maybe 15 minutes less? So that must have been over an hour, but I tried it on a *big* file. It actually worked pretty well, it's a little confused by backticks, can't imagine why, lol. Other than that, pretty good, I can recommend it to our translators heartily. Thanks!
[00:21:17] <SWPadnos> cool. glad it worked out
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[01:03:03] <SWPadnos> KimK, I'm assuming that the idea is to get a starting point for translators, not to actually check in any machine-translated files. Is that right?
[01:04:41] <KimK> Well, both. I only did the one file to test the translator. The translators themselves will finish the job.
[01:05:10] <KimK> I don't intend to do any more, though. No time, other things to do.
[01:06:18] <KimK> It's a pretty helpful translator though, I'm pretty confident the translators will like it.
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[01:45:45] <SWPadnos> KimK, ok. that's fine. I just wanted to make sure that google-translated documents don't end up in our repo. There isn't much sense doing that, because anyone could just use google translate for themselves (if they want a so-so translation)
[01:50:06] <KimK> Yes, eventually everything will be human-translator approved. There's some roughing work done now in spots just to speed the human translators on their way. We're still looking for a French volunteer, but I have confidence we'll get one. We got German and Spanish volunteers that I didn't expect, I think we'll make it a "hat trick".
[01:52:09] <KimK> And the new manuals are marked with appropriately low revision numbers, which appear on every page. So that can serve as a public notice too.
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[05:44:20] <KimK> Success! OK, it may not be great, but it's here.
[05:50:53] <psha> :)
[05:50:55] <psha> great
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[08:46:00] <mhaberler> good!
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[10:36:54] <psha[work]> KimK: around?
[10:36:58] <psha[work]> or sleeping? :)
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[11:01:18] <KimK> psha[work]: Still here, in and out
[11:08:56] <psha[work]> i believe i've found problem with es docs
[11:09:11] <KimK> Excellent, what is it?
[11:09:24] <psha[work]> too short line of ===='s
[11:09:27] <psha[work]> on second line
[11:09:45] <psha[work]> http://psha.org.ru/tmp/esfix.patch
[11:10:01] <KimK> OK. Would you like to fix it or shall I? Haha, you're too fast for me.
[11:10:12] <psha[work]> commit it if it's not hard
[11:10:56] <KimK> OK, will do. Give me a few minutes though.
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[12:44:56] <CIA-11> EMC: 03mhaberler 07v2.5_branch * rbfb10a0ad7cf 10/docs/src/ (Master_HAL_es.txt Master_User_es.txt): docs: fix broken build
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[14:49:11] <CIA-11> EMC: 03mhaberler 07v2.5_branch * r28b91b0c260b 10/docs/src/ (6 files in 4 dirs): docs: re-introduce some missing files
[14:49:12] <CIA-11> EMC: 03mhaberler 07v2.5_branch * r544721c41de3 10/docs/src/Submakefile: docs: remove de/es/fr quickref rules
[14:49:14] <CIA-11> EMC: 03mhaberler 07v2.5_branch * r650d7c409ab7 10/docs/src/ (index.tmpl index_de.tmpl index_es.tmpl index_fr.tmpl): docs: fix language references in index
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[18:54:40] <logger[mah]> skunkworks: Log stored at http://emc.mah.priv.at/irc/%23emc-devel/2011-07-11.html
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[21:34:28] <micges> andypugh: hi
[21:34:47] <andypugh> Any luck with the 7i64?
[21:34:54] <micges> do you use crossed ethernet cable to connect with 7i64?
[21:35:06] <micges> or not crossed
[21:35:21] <andypugh> I don't think so. I think it is "normal" type
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[21:35:46] <andypugh> To be honest, I think I use the ones Pete gave me..
[21:35:55] <micges> I've debuged driver, it seems ok, it must be phisical 'reason'
[21:37:18] <andypugh> I have never taken any care to select the "right" cable, so I assume it is whatever you normally use to plug a computer into a router.
[21:38:00] <micges> it seems so, I assumed pc<-> pc cabel
[21:38:25] <andypugh> It will be annoying if that turns out to be the problem.
[21:39:00] <andypugh> My natural assumption as always to blame the software, after all, I know who wrote it.
[21:39:28] <micges> heh
[21:46:29] <micges> 3 different cables, same results
[21:46:48] <micges> got even latest BIT from Peter
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[21:58:39] <tom3p> clear
[22:00:52] <JT-Shop> clear prop
[22:01:13] <andypugh> micges: The cables are all the same type?
[22:01:43] <micges> another one crossed, and 2 normal
[22:03:54] <andypugh> I am baffled, then.
[22:04:29] <andypugh> Which channel is the 7i64 plugged in to?
[22:05:07] <andypugh> What is your num_sserials line? (It won't work if you ask for 8 with only 4 in the firmware, but it will raise an error)
[22:13:11] <micges> sserial lines is 8
[22:13:15] <micges> like in BIT file
[22:13:34] <micges> and I'm plugging int 1,2 or 7,8
[22:14:03] <andypugh> I have just found that I get exactly the same output as you if I ask for num_sserials=9
[22:14:17] <andypugh> What is the name of the bit file?
[22:15:29] <micges> SVSS4_8.BIT
[22:16:24] <andypugh> That's 4 PWM/encoders and 8 sserial channels, we think?
[22:16:29] <micges> ywep
[22:16:54] <micges> not much more fits 5i20
[22:17:36] <andypugh> Yeah, I was wondering if 8x servo + 4x ssserial was more likely
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[22:33:55] <andypugh> micges: Are you compiling your own Master?
[22:34:14] <micges> what you means 'own'?
[22:34:31] <andypugh> I mean, do you compile it, or use a package?
[22:34:44] <micges> I always compile EMC2
[22:35:06] <andypugh> OK, then we can add a bit more information reporting to the sserial driver.
[22:36:00] <micges> ok
[22:36:16] <micges> I've already done it
[22:36:36] <micges> got 8 times: DEvice code 0 at addr ...
[22:38:13] <andypugh> Have you talked to Pete?
[22:38:23] <andypugh> He's on #emc..
[22:38:52] <micges> I'm talking with him now
[22:39:13] <andypugh> It sounds like the comms isn't working.
[22:39:22] <andypugh> Which might be hardware.
[22:39:55] <micges> I've got only one pcs of everything needed :
[22:39:58] <micges> :|
[22:58:57] <micges> andypugh: I got it running
[22:58:59] <micges> :)
[23:01:51] <andypugh> Woot! What was the problem?
[23:05:02] <micges> don't know yet
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[23:15:05] <micges> andypugh: pins created for 7i64 by hm2 are working?
[23:15:27] <micges> setp some output and led will blink?
[23:16:06] <andypugh> It certainly should, yes
[23:17:01] <andypugh> You need the hm2_read and write functions attached to threads, and the threads running, though.
[23:18:56] <micges> yep
[23:19:26] <andypugh> You have blinky-lights?
[23:19:52] <micges> no
[23:20:16] <andypugh> Dmesg?
[23:21:34] <micges> ok got blinky lights :)
[23:21:42] <micges> thank you
[23:22:51] <andypugh> Why not first time?
[23:24:52] <micges> 5i20 watchdog
[23:25:09] <andypugh> Of course.
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[23:25:26] <andypugh> It isn't like that has never caught me out.
[23:25:55] <micges> I've rewritten hal from scratch during others problems and forgot one line
[23:26:02] <micges> but it was fast figure out
[23:27:27] <micges> you have some source code to test
[23:27:37] <micges> is it ready?
[23:29:19] <andypugh> Nearly. But it will refuse your bitfile, I think...
[23:30:08] <micges> bug me if you're ready, I'll further dig into hm2 source code
[23:31:14] <micges> got two green lights on 7i64, can go sleep
[23:31:17] <micges> good night
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[23:35:17] <andypugh> Hmm, is there a more elegant construction than this to ignore 4 errors then report on the 5th, then stop reporting?
[23:35:18] <andypugh> if (doit_err_count < 6){ doit_err_count++; }
[23:35:18] <andypugh> if (doit_err_count == 4 ){ // ignore 4 errors at startup
[23:35:19] <andypugh> HM2_ERR("Smart Serial: DoIt not cleared from previous "
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