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[08:00:06] <psha[work]> mhaberler: great example
[08:00:38] <mhaberler> interesting how much C stuff suddenly can be eliminated..
[08:04:13] <mhaberler> basically I can back out the whole micges branch and just not start iocontrol and its queues
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[12:25:43] <CIA-11> EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.5_branch * r6ff363f7aa79 10/docs/src/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Docs: add ngcgui to user manual
[12:32:22] <e-ndy> hi all, what is the difference between rtai and adeos hal patch?
[12:38:10] <alex_joni> not much, mainly some changes the rtai folks make
[12:38:21] <alex_joni> they start by taking the ADEOS patch, and work from there
[12:38:31] <alex_joni> but more info you'll get from the rtai mailing list probably
[12:45:09] <e-ndy> thanks
[12:46:14] <e-ndy> another question: what is doing halcmd or how that command is called?
[12:49:40] <alex_joni> doing HAL manipulation (create new pin connections, load components, etc)
[12:49:56] <alex_joni> this time it's emc2's HAL, not the same as adeos hal or linux hal
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[18:34:55] <psha> cradek: whould you like too look at
http://psha.org.ru/cgit/psha/emc-notify
[18:35:02] <psha> maybe it will be usefil in conjunction with touchy
[18:36:06] <psha> it uses desktop notification subsystem to display non-focus stealing popups
[18:36:34] <cradek> interesting - I saw you talking about that - I'm not sure how I feel about it
[18:36:45] <cradek> touchy displays messages in a status bar at the bottom
[18:36:54] <cradek> (only the latest message)
[18:37:18] <psha> yes, i've modeled same in gaxis (statusbar errors) but found it limited
[18:37:21] <cradek> brb
[18:37:35] <psha> thus for cutter gui i've written notification notifier
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[19:13:23] <psha> awallin: i've send you links to gaxis.ui and branch with jog widgets
[19:13:32] <psha> but i suspect they won't be useful for your task
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[20:33:05] <psha> cradek: if you have some thoughts about emc-notify - drop them here, i'll read log tomorrow
[20:33:41] <cradek> sorry - what specific kind of thoughts do you want? I don't have any strong feelings about it.
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[20:35:04] <psha> any :) starting from 'that's total crap' :)
[20:35:26] <psha> or 'i don't think it deserves my attention' ;)
[20:35:50] <psha> i mean may it be useful for ui's like touchy
[20:36:00] <cradek> I'm sure you've done a fine job making it work, but I don't see a need for it and I'm nervous about intimate dependence on one desktop environment
[20:36:48] <cradek> I don't see how it would be better than what touchy already does. maybe I am missing something - can you elaborate?
[20:36:50] <psha> there is dep on DE
[20:37:02] <psha> desktop-notification is cross DE and's working even in ion3 or DWM
[20:37:06] <psha> like on my customers setup
[20:41:05] <psha> also it has a kind of backlog - shows 10 first messages and when closed - 10 next, etc (if overloaded)
[20:41:53] <psha> also notifications were designed for very similar tasks - non-focus-stealing notifications which are not bound to application
[20:42:12] <psha> that's why i think it's not bad idea to give them a try as a mech for showing EMC errors
[20:43:30] <psha> however by default 10.04 installation has broken Notification protocol - notify-osd package is not behaving normal, notification-daemon (it's not bound to any DE) is far more better
[20:43:40] <psha> it's really late here, bb
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[23:45:16] <andypugh> micges: Back now
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