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[05:29:07] <KimK> Could the ngcgui changes have done anything to the Makefiles, etc for the docs build process? I wasn't through chasing build errors yet, I had a few more French ones to go. I did a pull and now am getting a "short docs build" (fast, 20-30 secs instead of 5-6 mins) with no errors reported, instead of the 6 or 10 I would have expected. And no PDFs regenerated after a make clean.
[05:31:00] <KimK> I'm going to call it a night. Any advice or suggestions appreciated. I'll scroll back later and read them. Thanks.
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[10:53:09] <jthornton> KimK: you will need to add libtk-img I bet
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[12:56:57] <KimK> jthornton: Thanks very much, JT, that seems to have fixed it! However, since I start each rebuild with "make clean", "./autogen", "./configure --enable-build-documentation", and "make", clearly the scripting did not catch that I needed to install "libtk-img". So I move that one of the scripting gurus take a look at that and see what can be done. Thanks again, JT!
[13:00:26] <KimK> Build time is back to 5.5 minutes, and all but one of the English PDFs have returned. I haven't yet looked at why "Getting_Started.pdf" is still missing, it may have been missing before too. None of the French PDFs are present either, but I'm withholding that complaint until I get rid of more French errors. Then we'll see.
[13:02:26] <jthornton> KimK: when you get done I'll add some docs on ngcgui
[13:04:23] <KimK> How did you know, did you check the changes to the recently committed makefile?
[13:05:16] <KimK> jthornton: How did you know, did you check the changes to the recently committed makefile?
[13:19:45] <JT-Shop> I'm not that smart, Dewey told me
[13:20:57] <KimK> Back on the subject of scripting issues, in the error list there appears, "no support found for fontenc", but I have libfontenc1 installed. (For that matter, the error list says, "no support found for emc2", but I didn't worry about that one too much. (I do have emc2 and emc2-dev installed.)
[13:21:11] <KimK> JT-Shop: OK, that works too!
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[13:25:41] <KimK> JT-Shop: Thanks also for your offer of ngcgui docs, I was going to ask about that since all this stuff seems to be going into 2.5. Have you ever done a cherry-pick? I saw at least one doc item that went to master that I want in 2.5. It might be time for me to learn cherry-picking, lol!
[13:39:59] <JT-Shop> yes, I have cherry picked twice so I'm far from and experienced expert... as I recall it is something like git cherry-pick 123456132
[13:40:11] <JT-Shop> but not the first b in the number
[13:43:55] <KimK> I followed you until "but not the first b in the number", then I got lost
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[13:44:56] <JT-Shop> the commit number is like b1u9hf425208
[13:45:17] <JT-Shop> or something like that... let me go down to the beer cave and stop guessin
[13:45:36] <KimK> Oh, you mean there's some kind of "leading b"?
[13:47:17] <jthornton> git checkout v2.4_branch
[13:47:19] <jthornton> git cherry-pick [the commit ref but not with the r]
[13:47:27] <jthornton> there's my notes
[13:47:43] <jthornton> I was close it was a letter
[13:48:59] <KimK> Ha, OK. And "checkout v2.4_branch" above would be replaced (in my case) with "checkout master"? (Or wherever I saw it?)
[13:49:06] <jthornton> yea
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[13:49:28] <jthornton> oh the r shows up here when you commit
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[13:49:37] <KimK> OK, I'll try it later. My plate is still pretty full here.
[13:49:47] <jthornton> so if you copy and paste from here drop the r
[13:50:04] <jthornton> you better git to eating then :)
[13:50:46] <KimK> Ha, OK. I've been saying for about a week that I expect to push this mess "pretty soon", I wonder when that will be, lol?
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[13:53:00] <KimK> Oh, and if there's anything on the ngcgui docs that you want to send my way, I'll help you.
[13:54:22] <KimK> I know there's a lot of people that want to see ngcgui appear in 2.5, it would be good if it had some docs with it.
[13:55:49] <KimK> Do the ngcgui tabs "roll" for people with small screens, no room for all the tabs?
[13:56:31] <KimK> Or have we not reached that point yet? (Axis, DRO, how many for ngcgui, psha
[13:56:42] <KimK> psha's camera, etc.
[13:56:45] <KimK> Oops
[13:57:05] <KimK> Or have we not reached that point yet? (Axis, DRO, how many for ngcgui, psha's camera, etc.)
[13:57:12] <KimK> There, for the loggers
[13:58:08] <JT-Shop> there is an arrow to shift the tabs if your screen is tiny or you have tons of tabs
[13:58:22] <KimK> OK, good.
[13:58:57] <JT-Shop> on my lathe I have to use .axisrc to make my default screen size bigger so all the tabs show up
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[14:00:29] <KimK> I recall seeing that discussion go by, are the details posted on the wiki? Or is there a v2.5 mod coming so we don't have to worry about it anymore?
[14:01:18] <JT-Shop> there is a thread on the forum, not sure of anything on the wiki
[14:01:54] <KimK> Oh, OK, forum works too. (I never think of the forum.)
[14:01:56] <JT-Shop> nothing in 2.5 that I know about, I started trying to make an ini entry possible but never could get it to work
[14:02:50] <JT-Shop> or I should say I've not discovered where in axis.py that the screen size is specified... yet
[14:03:09] <KimK> Yes, you would think that would be a good candidate for the [DISPLAY]/[AXIS](only) section, wouldn't you?
[14:03:15] <JT-Shop> I think I have the ini part figured out
[14:03:39] <JT-Shop> I've not put much thought into that end
[14:05:16] <KimK> [DISPLAY]; [AXIS]; INITIAL_SCREEN_SIZE = 1280x1024 (or whatever you like)
[14:05:35] <KimK> That part works well, now the other end, lol!
[14:05:56] <JT-Shop> don't think you can have two names like that
[14:06:43] <JT-Shop> I think the ini parser just takes section and name and gets value back for you
[14:06:59] <KimK> Sorry, they were meant to be sections / subsection / line in subsection, but I didn't want to waste more than one line on it, lol.
[14:07:21] <JT-Shop> I don't think the parser takes subsection
[14:07:53] <KimK> I think it already does, there's an [AXIS] under [DISPLAY], isn't there?
[14:08:06] <JT-Shop> not that I know of
[14:08:18] <JT-Shop> if so it is a section
[14:08:51] <KimK> Well, OK, I guess that would work?
[14:08:59] <JT-Shop> because (I think) there is no ENDSECTION so the next one will be a section
[14:11:07] <KimK> Yes, I think you're right. Still, it would seem strange to see [AXIS] very far from [DISPLAY].
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