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[02:09:41] <CIA-47> EMC: 03cradek 07master * r886546b222a0 10/src/emc/rs274ngc/ (interp_convert.cc interp_internal.hh rs274ngc_pre.cc): use #5599 to control (DEBUG, ) output - default to on, set to 0 to disable
[02:09:42] <CIA-47> EMC: 03cradek 07master * rdd4b0f4076fd 10/src/emc/rs274ngc/ (rs274ngc_interp.hh rs274ngc_pre.cc): readable interpreter status - debugging help
[02:09:42] <CIA-47> EMC: 03cradek 07master * r9b8a8af556ad 10/src/emc/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ini file support for remappable commands Tx, M6, and abort handler
[02:09:45] <CIA-47> EMC: 03cradek 07master * r14400f863456 10/src/emc/ (6 files in 3 dirs): add interpreter abort handler, reason code to emcIoAbort()
[02:09:46] <CIA-47> EMC: 03cradek 07master * ra1b2655fd444 10/src/emc/rs274ngc/ (interp_array.cc interp_convert.cc interp_execute.cc): optionally handle Tx, M6, IoAbort() in o-word subs
[02:09:48] <CIA-47> EMC: 03cradek 07master * r327b7ae76676 10/src/emc/rs274ngc/rs274ngc_pre.cc: fix broken debug message
[02:09:48] <CIA-47> EMC: 03cradek 07master * r1f07a29f52c4 10/src/emc/nml_intf/emcglb.h: add ini file debug flag for iocontrol tracing
[02:09:49] <CIA-47> EMC: 03cradek 07master * ra172ce42b60c 10/src/emc/ (13 files in 5 dirs): support start-change HAL signal at the very begin of a tool change.
[02:09:50] <CIA-47> EMC: 03cradek 07master * r90e0598fa51e 10/src/emc/iotask/ (Submakefile ioControl_v2.cc): iocontrol-v2 component
[02:09:53] <CIA-47> EMC: 03cradek 07master * r65e5e94f5526 10/src/emc/ (7 files in 4 dirs): toolchanger fault code support
[02:09:53] <CIA-47> EMC: 03cradek 07master * rd4dfcb768d36 10/ (9 files in 2 dirs): sim config for osub-based toolchange with gladevcp panel
[02:09:58] <CIA-47> EMC: 03cradek 07master * r1e58b7aae048 10/configs/sim/ (axis-iocontrolv2-demo.ini v2-tc.ui v2_gladevcp_postgui.hal): sample sim config for iocontrolv2 with gladevcp panel
[02:09:59] <CIA-47> EMC: 03cradek 07master * r9888a679cf7b 10/configs/sim/sim_mm.tbl: choose reasonable diameters for metric tool table
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[02:33:06] <seb_kuzminsky> uh oh, the tests failed
[02:33:49] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm, the buildbot should have mailed the list, but it didnt
[02:33:54] <seb_kuzminsky> http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/waterfall
[02:35:59] <cradek> oh dangit, why didn't I run the tests?
[02:36:22] <cradek> ah, new canon call at tool change
[02:36:28] <cradek> that's expected
[02:36:30] <cradek> I'll fix it
[02:37:20] <seb_kuzminsky> that START_CHANGE thing?
[02:39:15] <cradek> yes
[02:42:12] <CIA-47> EMC: 03cradek 07master * r64b9ac8462c4 10/tests/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Fix runtests: this new canon call is expected before a tool change.
[02:42:30] <seb_kuzminsky> thx chris
[02:42:39] <cradek> thanks for monitoring
[02:43:22] <cradek> bbl/bbt
[02:43:31] <seb_kuzminsky> seeya
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[10:11:53] <Pline> /!\
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[15:09:44] <psha> mhaberler: whoa, toolchanger merged to master?
[15:18:26] <skunkworks> yay - that means I really really need to try it
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[15:49:55] <JT-Shop> I wonder what the error codes you get back are?
[15:52:51] * JT-Shop guesses as soon as psha figures out the sujbmakefile his docs can be pushed :)
[15:53:55] <psha> JT-Shop: i've tried yesterday to hook it into submakefile but failed :(
[15:54:04] <psha> i've really no clues how deps are used there
[15:57:27] <JT-Shop> did you try and tack it onto the /docs/src/submakefile ?
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[15:58:59] <psha> yes, but i'm in fear to break man/other docs build:)
[16:01:03] <JT-Shop> I think you can just add a section like ifeq ($(BUILD_DOCS_ASCIIDOC),yes) or something like that and try without breaking anything
[16:01:32] <JT-Shop> and finger out how to pass BUILD_DOCS_ASCIIDOC to it..
[16:04:39] <JT-Shop> it took me a while to figure out how to add a new lyx and took several beatings along the way from jepler to git it in my head :)
[16:07:07] <psha> thing that i don't catch is how dependencies are handled
[16:20:17] <JT-Shop> like this depends/%.d: $(DOC_SRCDIR)/%.lyx $(DOC_SRCDIR)/lyxdep.py
[16:22:13] <psha> but you have to include them into makefile somehow
[16:22:47] <psha> and also there is strange rule 'Makefile: something-here.d'
[16:22:55] <psha> so makefile is rebuilt
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[16:43:32] <JT-Shop> can you find where it was commited? their might be a comment that sheds some light on it for you...
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[17:26:44] <mhaberler> skunkworks: the documentation as of now is still the wiki pages; I just pulled pavel's asciidoc-v3 branch and start working there; once asciidoc-v3 is integrated the docs should be in master too
[17:27:49] <psha> http://www.pygtk.org/
[17:27:51] <psha> :D
[17:28:11] <mhaberler> this code will give the M6x HAL pin commands a major workout as folks will play with it and I expect some hiccups there; I'm still trying to nail the M66 bug I reported on the developers list
[17:30:15] <mhaberler> cradek: thanks for fixing them tests.. a blind spot, sorry
[17:30:49] <psha> JT-Shop: no chances to dig - it's very old
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[17:45:10] <JT-Shop> ah ok
[17:51:22] <cradek> hm, wonder if I should have branched 2.5 first
[17:51:35] <cradek> I guess I can still branch from before this.
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[18:00:13] <psha> cradek: sure, git checkout -b branch-name commitish
[18:00:26] <psha> that's why git is superior to mercurial :)
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[18:13:32] <cradek> yes if we want your doc changes but not io changes, we can branch 2.5 from before io commits, put doc changes on 2.5, then merge 2.5 into master
[18:14:05] <andypugh> <waves> Hi chaps, did I miss anything in the last 3 weeks?
[18:14:57] <mhaberler> fine, but where'I'm going to add my docs?
[18:15:10] <psha> mhaberler: picking commit is not a problem
[18:15:27] <cradek> after that, you'd put master doc updates on master
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[18:19:05] <mhaberler> cradek: when would you do these two steps?
[18:19:29] <mhaberler> (three steps, that is)
[18:20:12] <cradek> as soon as psha is ready
[18:20:18] <cradek> yuck, I'm on the worst net connection ever
[18:20:41] <mhaberler> wrong side of the digital divide ;-?
[18:20:47] <cradek> (phone)
[18:20:55] <mhaberler> holy cow
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[18:21:43] <cradek> ?
[18:22:16] <andypugh> (phone) wasn't referring to your net connection?
[18:22:24] <cradek> yes it's my cell phone
[18:22:27] <cradek> it works pretty badly
[18:22:57] <andypugh> I have visions of an acoustic coupler, bakelite handsets and baudot-coded dialling cards.
[18:23:34] <archivist> remember Prestel andypugh 1200 baud down 75 up
[18:23:41] <cradek> my acoustic modem worked much better
[18:23:51] <cradek> and yes I had a bakelite phone to use it with - those phones were the best
[18:23:58] <cradek> it was slow but reliable
[18:24:03] <cradek> this is fast but flaky
[18:24:32] <cradek> bbl...
[18:24:56] <andypugh> archivist: How old do you think I am? I didn't know there was such a thing as an internet until 1987.
[18:25:16] <archivist> old enough!
[18:25:42] <Jymmm> andypugh: You Dad's name was Moses?
[18:25:55] <psha> voice connection - call IRC operator and tell him what to type
[18:26:01] <psha> he's reading back what's going on here
[18:26:57] <Jymmm> http://depts.washington.edu/labhist/laborphotos/operator.jpg
[18:27:00] <andypugh> I have almost had, that, a bizarre phone call from a deaf guy, typing to someone with a strong indian accent, who was relaying between us.
[18:27:39] <andypugh> The problem was, the intermediary could not actually understand my accent
[18:29:24] <psha> andypugh: indian accent == pidgin? :)
[18:30:01] <andypugh> Not at all, he spoke better english than me.
[18:35:22] <psha> i thought that you are from UK!
[18:35:49] <psha> and at least lord
[18:36:06] <andypugh> Yes, but that doesn't mean I speak it "correctly"
[18:36:25] <psha> so if somebody don't understand you that's a sign of opponents poor english!
[18:37:04] <mhaberler> http://static.mah.priv.at/public/ATT58346111.jpg
[18:38:52] <andypugh> Computers don't understand me at all. Turn on the auto-captions of my Youtube video for proof (and a bit of a laugh)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhICrb0Tbn4
[18:40:22] <psha> andypugh: that's because computers language is not Pure English! :)
[18:42:39] <psha> wow, i have jogging!
[18:43:10] <mhaberler> psha: "on a clear disk you can seek forever"
[18:44:27] <psha> mhaberler: i've coded it second time :)
[18:44:34] <psha> from a scratch :)
[18:44:46] <mhaberler> cerebral backup, hm
[18:46:12] <psha> this time i've get more goodies and more bugs!
[18:46:36] <psha> i really don't see way to handle focus-out
[18:46:56] <andypugh> On the few occasions I have managed to lose several hours coding, I have found myself re-writing it in minutes, and better too.
[18:51:23] <psha> i've posted this on #emc already but
http://xkcd.com/844/
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[19:10:59] <alex_joni> psha: hi, was just looking at the docs/src/Submakefile
[19:11:17] <alex_joni> at a first glance it doesn't feel that complicated
[19:11:59] <psha> i don't catch why deps are hidden in trivial build ifdef
[19:12:21] <psha> trivial build == build without docs? or without deps?
[19:12:36] <alex_joni> line 170?
[19:12:41] <psha> also why Makefile depends on deps files?
[19:12:55] <psha> yes
[19:13:00] <psha> 170-173
[19:13:16] <alex_joni> A "trivial build" is one which should not include dependency information
[19:13:16] <alex_joni> 6 # either because it should be usable before dependency information can be
[19:13:19] <alex_joni> 7 # generated or when it is invalid (clean, docclean) or when running as root
[19:13:23] <alex_joni> 8 # when the user must guarantee in advance that everything is built
[19:13:25] <alex_joni> 9 # (setuid, install)
[19:13:41] <alex_joni> from src/Makefule
[19:13:46] <alex_joni> Makefile*
[19:13:49] <psha> ah, thx
[19:14:01] <alex_joni> so that gets called on clean
[19:14:16] <alex_joni> when you need to generate all depends (not only what has recently changed)
[19:15:22] <alex_joni> that is not Makefile depending on deps
[19:15:47] <alex_joni> it's rather calling recursive in other subdirs
[19:16:02] <psha> 172 Makefile: $(patsubst %.lyx, depends/%.d, $(DOC_SRCS))
[19:16:10] <alex_joni> right
[19:16:16] <alex_joni> Makefile depends on (..)
[19:16:19] <psha> yes
[19:16:23] <psha> why? :)
[19:17:01] <psha> so when deps are updated it have to start build again?
[19:17:13] <psha> since old one is already included
[19:18:15] <alex_joni> something like that I think
[19:18:32] <alex_joni> patsubst searches in %.lyx for stuff in depends/%.d .. right?
[19:18:44] <alex_joni> and when found it replaces it with $(DOC_SRCS)
[19:19:08] <psha> it replaces
[19:19:15] <psha> so file.lyx becomes depends/file.d
[19:19:38] * psha read carefuly
[19:19:42] <psha> yes :) you are right :)
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[19:20:04] <alex_joni> hmm.. no, I'm wrong
[19:20:13] <alex_joni> was reading the manpage of m4 patsubst, not the make one
[19:20:26] <alex_joni> $(patsubst pattern,replacement,text)
[19:21:02] <alex_joni> it replaces the dependcy on file.ly with depends/file.d
[19:21:08] <alex_joni> .lyx*
[19:22:09] <psha> ah, so i've read that not so carefuly :)
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[19:27:04] <alex_joni> ok, so the idea was this: from all lyx files, generate .d files as the Makefile dependecy
[19:27:27] <alex_joni> next make tries to generate those .d files, which get generated by a python script (lyxdep.py)
[19:28:57] <psha> and then Makefile becomes older then *.d files
[19:29:35] <psha> really that's only thing i don't understand
[19:29:39] <psha> everything else in makefile is simple
[19:30:48] <psha> however set of rules on lines 214-231 are strange :)
[19:30:56] <psha> 214 $(DOC_DIR)/EMC2_Getting_Started.pdf: $(DOC_SRCDIR)/Getting_Started.pdf
[19:30:56] <psha> 215 @ln -f $< $@
[19:32:43] <alex_joni> those are some links
[19:32:52] <alex_joni> just some aliases
[19:33:08] <alex_joni> the documentation was called EMC2_Getting_Started.pdf
[19:33:21] <psha> yea, but really that's rules for install, not for build...
[19:33:27] <alex_joni> right
[19:35:05] <alex_joni> but that's only semantics
[19:35:19] <alex_joni> the point is to build EMC2_Getting_started, etc..
[19:35:33] <alex_joni> and those get build by building Getting_started and then doing thelink
[19:35:53] <alex_joni> PDF_TARGETS at 161
[19:36:25] <psha> sure, i've seen this
[19:36:36] <alex_joni> here's one of the initial versions:
http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=emc2.git;a=blob;f=docs/src/Submakefile;hb=3b6f0bd3092f44f12b7e9d162d102b310384e942
[19:37:10] <psha> that's much better! )
[19:37:19] <alex_joni> well.. it grew from there
[19:37:28] <alex_joni> that one always rebuilt both files
[19:37:34] <psha> i see :)
[19:38:56] <alex_joni> I'm not 100% sure what 'Makefile: foo' means,
[19:39:16] <alex_joni> but my guess is that it adds new depends to the current build
[19:40:01] <micges> alex_joni: hello
[19:40:09] <psha> generaly rules with empty body (like this) are just appending new deps to existing rule with body (or indirect rule)
[19:40:20] <alex_joni> hi micges
[19:41:24] <alex_joni> ok, so the point is to traverse all lyx files, replace them by .d deps and use those as new depends to the current build
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[19:51:03] <psha> again Failed to remake makefile...
[19:51:13] <psha> why is it so sensetive? :(
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[19:53:52] <psha> wow, working
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[20:43:14] <JT-Shop> Sweet!
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[20:54:48] <alex_joni> psha: cool
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[21:20:39] <psha> but deps are not included :(
[21:24:24] <alex_joni> hmm
[21:24:37] <alex_joni> got a version online for me to look at? preferable from a browser
[21:26:57] <psha> sure
[21:28:07] <alex_joni> I'm not suggesting I know all this, but a new pair of eyes sometimes helps
[21:30:11] <psha> http://psha.org.ru/cgit/psha/emc2.git/commit/?h=asciidoc-v3&id=6e5840
[21:33:13] <psha> cgit as usual hold invalid cached version of asciidoc-v3 head...
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[21:37:30] <psha> alex_joni: bb, it's late here already
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[21:54:27] <alex_joni> night
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